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Sure it is. What about when society shames a man for displaying "feminine" traits? That's patriarchy. "Just be a man", "Man up", etc? Patriarchy.

Society doesn't value women more than men. The opposite is true. When society generally thinks that women need more money after a divorce, or that women will automatically be be better parents, etc, that is patriarchy.

Patriarchy can benefit women, and it can hurt men.

It's clear that you haven't really read many books about feminism. I don't think you really understand what it is. I'll cop that I haven't read a single book about men's rights though, so I guess we're even. Can you recommend one?

My value is not based on what a woman thinks of me. Value is subjective. We all have the opportunity to value ourselves based on any metric we want. If other people, men or women, don't value me then that's their prerogative. Anyone with a healthy self esteem should have the same attitude.

I've read a ton on feminism, and that post was a response to someone else.
I don't want to fill this thread with a debate about feminism so this will be my last post on the subject (unless other people contribute besides us).
I'm not out to prove anything, or to show you're wrong, it's just discussion. But you are wrong, btw.

Just because i've read a lot about a subject doesn't mean I agree with all of it. I understand the history, views, and opinions but I don't think every argument is valid. A pro feminist book won't touch on the negative aspects of feminism, and most people can't even admit that there are negative aspects..
When society shames a man for displaying feminine traits that could be seen as a problem, but the solution is not "feminism" as feminism is about and for women. Do you have the balls to tell a woman how to live her life? Yet all these guys are so eager to fall in line to the feminine agenda and base their entire existence around a woman's best interest. The patriarchy hurts men and benefits women, the patriarchy benefits men and hurts women. It works both ways, but it will always be a conveniently unsolvable problem. If you can't tell our society is already heavily feminized, you should pay closer attention. People support feminist issues, and they get covered constantly on TV, online, etc. Men really do care about supporting feminism.

I've heard that feminism helps men as well, but I don't think it's true. Feminism helps men the way caging a wild animal helps the animal. The animal has a safe, comfy home and never goes hungry, but lives on the terms of it's owner. The owner gets to enjoy the nice qualities of the animal, without having to worry about the negative qualities.

You say you don't put value on what a girl thinks about you, but I bet you would hate being labeled a misogynist. Many people, including people on this forum, possibly even you, will tell a guy that if he isn't a feminist he is a misogynist. And those same guys will then say women are oppressed by the patriarchy. Suggest men have problems as well as women and win another misogyny medal. If you want yet another misogyny medal make a half-joking, slightly negative generalization about women. Nobody cares if someone disrespects a guy, or hates men, but if a guy doesn't fall in line to the feminist agenda 24/7 he is instantly a disgusting bitter misogynist, end of story. Everyone helps women, men can deal with it themselves.

You can support women without supporting feminism.
If you don't look out for your own best interest, who will?
 
Oh FFS. This thread is for making fun of whiny website denizens who couldn't get laid in a free love hippie commune. This is not the place for a big spergy NO U fight about whiny bitch causes like MRA vs Feminism. If you want people to take you seriously using words like "privilege" and "patriarchy", take that crap to tumblr where it belongs.
 
Oh FFS. This thread is for making fun of whiny website denizens who couldn't get laid in a free love hippie commune. This is not the place for a big spergy NO U fight about whiny bitch causes like MRA vs Feminism. If you want people to take you seriously using words like "privilege" and "patriarchy", take that crap to tumblr where it belongs.
Aw, as long as nattering on about privilege and patriarchy keeps getting a rise out of people, there's not very much incentive for anyone to quit doing it. These MRA/SJW threads do seem to degenerate into different subsets of members trying to get each other's dander up.

If people are having fun, whatever. But in a more on-topic vein, I legit chuckled at this sluthate admin's take on @Glaive . Like this is just so goofy, it's actually almost charming.
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source.
 
I had to google Canthal Tilt since I don't know what the fuck they're talking about. Notably, the first three hits were a plastic surgeon's website, SlutHate.com, and a bodybuilding forum to the topic "People with negative canthal tilt should be sterilized: Don't pass your shitty genes on to others phaggot", so I figure this forum is basically some sort of mirror-WizardChan that's equally shitty for the opposite but also somehow the same reasons.


It's both funny and sad that these guys are basically so stuck in their helplessness and concrete thinking that they basically are saying
"BEEP BOP BOOP
IF canthal tilt is NEGATIVE THEN
STATUS=Permavirgin;
IF canthal tilt is POSITIVE THEN
STATUS=pussyallnight"
 
I had to google Canthal Tilt since I don't know what the fuck they're talking about. Notably, the first three hits were a plastic surgeon's website, SlutHate.com, and a bodybuilding forum to the topic "People with negative canthal tilt should be sterilized: Don't pass your shitty genes on to others phaggot", so I figure this forum is basically some sort of mirror-WizardChan that's equally shitty for the opposite but also somehow the same reasons.


It's both funny and sad that these guys are basically so stuck in their helplessness and concrete thinking that they basically are saying
"BEEP BOP BOOP
IF canthal tilt is NEGATIVE THEN
STATUS=Permavirgin;
IF canthal tilt is POSITIVE THEN
STATUS=pussyallnight"

I just googled it.

I don't even know of like the bitchiest, shallowest women in the world that would talk about this kind of bullshit. FFS
 
I had to google Canthal Tilt since I don't know what the fuck they're talking about. Notably, the first three hits were a plastic surgeon's website, SlutHate.com, and a bodybuilding forum to the topic "People with negative canthal tilt should be sterilized: Don't pass your shitty genes on to others phaggot", so I figure this forum is basically some sort of mirror-WizardChan that's equally shitty for the opposite but also somehow the same reasons.


It's both funny and sad that these guys are basically so stuck in their helplessness and concrete thinking that they basically are saying
"BEEP BOP BOOP
IF canthal tilt is NEGATIVE THEN
STATUS=Permavirgin;
IF canthal tilt is POSITIVE THEN
STATUS=pussyallnight"

It's as if these people are autistic or something.
 
I don't even know of like the bitchiest, shallowest women in the world that would talk about this kind of bullshit. FFS
It does enhance and bring out more attractive features in a person's eyes, but it's not something people notice specifically.
They'll say "you have great eyes" not "you have a great tilt to your inner canthus."

Think about when one of these guys does get a date. What is he going to talk about? He spent the past few years of his life talking about facial aesthetics, and being a virgin on a forum. "so.. umm you have very nice maxillae, do you wear a mouthguard? I know i'm no Chad, but I like to think i have decent aesthetical features."
 
Aw, as long as nattering on about privilege and patriarchy keeps getting a rise out of people, there's not very much incentive for anyone to quit doing it. These MRA/SJW threads do seem to degenerate into different subsets of members trying to get each other's dander up.

If people are having fun, whatever. But in a more on-topic vein, I legit chuckled at this sluthate admin's take on @Glaive . Like this is just so goofy, it's actually almost charming.

"Hey bby, want sum positive canthal tilt?!?"

Later on the admin mentions me apparently banning him from Wizardchan going into the entire normalfag conspiracy rant against WC's mod team. Why am I not surprised to find so much crossover? CWCkiforums also gets namedropped surprisingly fast.
 
"Hey bby, want sum positive canthal tilt?!?"

Later on the admin mentions me apparently banning him from Wizardchan going into the entire normalfag conspiracy rant against WC's mod team. Why am I not surprised to find so much crossover? CWCkiforums also gets namedropped surprisingly fast.

I saw that. Do you think the "social non virgin" friend he mentioned was me? I know a lot of people there were pissed that we got on well.
 
"Hey bby, want sum positive canthal tilt?!?"

Later on the admin mentions me apparently banning him from Wizardchan going into the entire normalfag conspiracy rant against WC's mod team. Why am I not surprised to find so much crossover? CWCkiforums also gets namedropped surprisingly fast.

We're popular.
 
I saw that. Do you think the "social non virgin" friend he mentioned was me? I know a lot of people there were pissed that we got on well.

You never said you were non virgin directly, I couldn't ban you :roll:
But yeah it very well could be referencing you. Although if you believe his theory, everyone was a non virgin this whole time and it was all a :ruse:
 
Aw, as long as nattering on about privilege and patriarchy keeps getting a rise out of people, there's not very much incentive for anyone to quit doing it.
But not here. This is a forum for laughing at spergs, not acting like spergs. Just ask HomerBeoulve.
Positive canthal tilt
Wut? I thought they were sperging over chins. Are they talking about the canthus (corner of the eye)? Are they saying that asians can't be virgins? That makes no sense. Again: HomerBeoulve.

I just googled it.

I don't even know of like the bitchiest, shallowest women in the world that would talk about this kind of bullshit. FFS
If they are actually talking about the canthus, well I have known some (particularly shallow) women who had sex because of their partner's "dreamy eyes", but I have never even heard of any who avoided sex specifically because their potential partner's eyes weren't "dreamy" enough. I have no clue what makes eyes "dreamy" or not (except to know upon good authority that my eyes aren't - not that that's ever been a problem for me), but somehow I don't think something as obtuse as "canthal tilt" factors into it.

CWCkiforums also gets namedropped surprisingly fast.
Don't they know that saying our name only give us power?
 
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