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30+GameOvers said:
They didn't need it, in the early days they had so many good third party games that only came out on the PS1 since both Sega and Nintendo were catching up on the tech front. Rayman, Spyro, Crash, Lara Craft, PaRappa, so many good mascots that became synonymous with Playstation brand in it's early years. Now, nobody even knows them, certainly not your average soyny drone that only bought the 600$ brick to play Last of Us.
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Yeah but they never owned these characters like Nintendo owned Mario, TLOZ, Kirby etc and that makes a world of difference. Sonic games can be awful but because they’re owned by Sega theres a consistent amount of synergy or artistic background among most entries. Nintendo would sooner burn down half the world or sell the souls of newborns to Satan, than change how Mario looks or acts. Meanwhile Crash Bandicoot or Spyro have been all over the place tonally and visually. At one point they tried to do a grimdark, LOTR inspired Spyro and Crash has gone from Looney Tune to some ugly mascot with tribal tattoos.
 
BigBadBastich said:
Yeah but they never owned these characters like Nintendo owned Mario, TLOZ, Kirby etc and that makes a world of difference. Sonic games can be awful but because they’re owned by Sega theres a consistent amount of synergy or artistic background among most entries. Nintendo would sooner burn down half the world or sell the souls of newborns to Satan, than change how Mario looks or acts. Meanwhile Crash Bandicoot or Spyro have been all over the place tonally and visually. At one point they tried to do a grimdark, LOTR inspired Spyro and Crash has gone from Looney Tune to some ugly mascot with tribal tattoos.
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Would Sony have done better, even in the early days? Doubtful, they were merely lucky and had the good sense to ride the wave for as long as possible. Even before they switched over to "dark and gritty movie games" they didn't have the best track record for making good decisions. Blame Activision for being retarded with Crash and Spyro, quite literally every single franchise they own from niche ones to juggernauts like COD are either dead, on life support or actively crumbling away in furthering states of irrelevance. All Soyny would do is hoard the IP and maybe re-release the games or give these characters a cameo in some other game. It's clear that 3D platformers of old weren't of interest to them even during 7th generation so there would not be a major push to give these games too much spotlight aside from a token game or two, and even then it would probably be "dark and gritty" as well, same as with Activision's titles. Nathan Drake, Ellie/Joel and Cole MacGrath were the mascots of Sony that generation and nothing would have changed.

BTW Here is to 1000 more pages as Soyny rapidly loses it's relevance and finally makes their Playstation division go bust.
 
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Every single ps5 sequel to a flagship ps4 new/rebooted ip that was showered with praise and accolades despite being overall mediocre has been an unmitigated dumpster fire, and I expect no less from ghost of trannei. Initially, I had assumed the sudden and very inorganic marketing push it had been getting was so that sony could more easily pivot to it should marathon take a distinctly concord-esque path, like they did with astrobot, but now I'm thinking sony might have had advance notice about gta6 being delayed, which was intended to be their big holiday bulwark against the switch 2.
 
Bog-standard Poster said:
Rumours are that Sony will be hiking the price of their consoles up on the 15th May.
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I no longer feel angry at the Switch or Switch 2’s price, because Nintendo’s the only console maker that doesn’t raise the price of their fucking consoles.

(Also, in case you buy into the “market conditions” narrative: If the price increases outside the US, then tariffs have jack shit to do with it.)
 
Two Dollars said:
hat doesn’t raise the price of their fucking consoles.
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In my 40 years of gaming, I have never heard of a console manufacturer raising prices.
Price drops? absolutely.
Price drops 5 years into a generation? A guarantee.
A price rise for the hardware? Unheard of.
A price rise 5 years into the generation? Retardation that should bankrupt a company.
Two price rises in a generation, including hiking the cost of games and digital services? That's just taking the piss out of the customers they obviously hate.

consider the first 12-18 months of PS5 under Jim Ryan; Affordable, attractive hardware with unique, exclusive games.
The last 3.5 years under Hulst? Almost certainly paid to crash Playstation with no survivors.
 
Bog-standard Poster said:
consider the first 12-18 months of PS5 under Jim Ryan; Affordable, attractive hardware with unique, exclusive games.
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Look, you're getting a disagree sticker for this alone. Keep in mind, THIS is what sony used to advertise that ps5 games were going up to $70. Say what you will about mario kart, but at least it's fucking mario kart.
 
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Markorian said:
Look, you're getting a disagree sticker for this alone. Keep in mind, THIS is what sony used to advertise that ps5 games were going up to $70. Say what you will about mario kart, but at least it's fucking mario kart.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=tY19nLXYH8I
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Returnal, Ratchet, Demon Souls remake, Godfall, Sackboy, Spidermon Miles Morales, GT7, Horizon 2.

We can debate the quality, or lack thereof of those titles, but Sony at least tried. They also launched PSVR2 that, while expensive, was and still is an amazing VR headset, with some cracking games on there. They really did care about their hardware, even if their software was becoming californian wokeslop.

The Herman Hulst took over and look what happened; price rises, terrible software, no fucking exclusives, all games day 1 to PC, remakes of remakes, more price rises.

PS5 is sony's worst gen, without question, but the contrast between launch of Ps5 and now is night and day.
 
Bog-standard Poster said:
consider the first 12-18 months of PS5 under Jim Ryan; Affordable, attractive hardware with unique, exclusive games.
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Keep this in mind, especially the phrase "unique, exclusive games"
Bog-standard Poster said:
Returnal, Ratchet, Demon Souls remake, Godfall, Sackboy, Spidermon Miles Morales, GT7, Horizon 2.
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>Mediocre, but the most unique and (temporarily) exclusive game on this list, only notable thing about it though is temporarily being ps5 exclusive
>sequel to the abysmal movie tie-in reboot, only praise I can give it is that at least it's not as bad as that one, still bottom 3 or 4 ratchet games, was used mainly to push lies about the ps5's "magic" ssd
>downgraded ps3 remake
>non-exclusive shovelware
>crossgen afterthought without any of what made the series special
>crossgen blm-pandering standalone dlc
>crossgen $40 each "micro"transaction platform
>crossgen industry plant straight from Herman Hulst
 
Markorian said:
was used mainly to push lies about the ps5's "magic" ssd
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Which lies? I'm not a sony shill but they didn't lie about the speed of it. Jumping through worlds takes milliseconds and the scenery/backgrounds that are loaded are visually and graphically fantastic. It's one of the few games that had an art style, similar to Returnal.

Like I said, the PS5 is the weakest gen of the 5, but the launch window isn't anywhere near the disaster that the console is now. Concord was pushed big time, while twisted metal and TLoU:factions - two games the fans actually wanted, were cancelled.
Two price hikes and remakes, remakes, remakes is horrifying in that it hasn't caused Sony to go bankrupt.

Sega didn't deserve their fate when the industry is propping up Microsoft and Sony.
 
SSj_Ness (Yiffed) said:
Affordable?
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Cheaper than it is now, 5 years later. Cheaper than the Series X. It was relatively affordable.
SSj_Ness (Yiffed) said:
Attractive, I don't agree.
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Subjective of course but I like the look of it. But I like anything that isn't 'black slab' with the exception of the OG black slab, Xbox because it was so OTT black slab that it was great.
SSj_Ness (Yiffed) said:
Unique, exclusive games? Absolutely not.
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They were exclusive and ratchet, returnal and spidermon can't (couldn't) be found on other platforms.
 
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