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Adash said:
It's most likely a 6800. To be fair, I definitely overestimated the capabilities of the B580, but a used 6800 goes for like 300-350 bucks, which adds 50-100 to the price, so instead of 1 year of PS Plus, it's 2/3. Hopefully Intel releases the B770 soon.

I definitely shot myself in the foot by going for new parts, but so many PS5 killer videos show used parts so I wanted to switch things up. I now see why they go for used parts.
Basically, as long as you can save more money (which you probably can if you're ready to drop 700 on a PS5 Pro) it's better to get a PC. Same with original PS5.
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If you're wanting a PS5 Pro killer, you're better off just getting a 9070 or 9070 XT when they come out in a few months as they're likely going to be targeting the ~$300-400 price point (unless AMD has another bout of retardation which is not unlikely) or picking up a secondhand 4070 when the 5000-series launches. The B770 hasn't been confirmed and given rumors that Intel has already moved on to Celestial, we might not even see a B770 at all.
 
Fcret said:
If you're wanting a PS5 Pro killer, you're better off just getting a 9070 or 9070 XT when they come out in a few months as they're likely going to be targeting the ~$300-400 price point (unless AMD has another bout of retardation which is not unlikely) or pick up a secondhand 4070 when the 5000-series launches. The B770 hasn't been confirmed and given rumors that Intel has already moved on to Celestial, we might not even see a B770 at all.
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Yeah that too. It sucks that we may not see a B770 though. i was gonna wait for my cousin to buy a new GPU and i'd buy his 3070 ti off him, but considering how godawful the 50 series looks, I'd assume he would pass. oh well i'll probably buy a 9070 like you say.
 
Belvedere said:
A bit off topic but I hate how AMD can't stick to a consistent naming system for their GPUs. Not only their skipped 8000 as a numbering scheme despite they having CPUs with that number range, but they also switched the card's tier to the "tens" to imitate Nvidia when the "hundred" system worked just fine.
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Are they skipping 8000 or is there some gay mobile only variant like what happened with Ryzen 4000 series?
 
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Jade Goody said:
New Until Dawn movie first look just landed, and it looks AWFUL.
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Nigga they already made an Until Dawn movie
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Belvedere said:
A bit off topic but I hate how AMD can't stick to a consistent naming system for their GPUs. Not only their skipped 8000 as a numbering scheme despite they having CPUs with that number range, but they also switched the card's tier to the "tens" to imitate Nvidia when the "hundred" system worked just fine.
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The 8000 series is for the mobile/laptop. They "skipped" a generation before for the same reason.
 
Belvedere said:
A bit off topic but I hate how AMD can't stick to a consistent naming system for their GPUs. Not only their skipped 8000 as a numbering scheme despite they having CPUs with that number range, but they also switched the card's tier to the "tens" to imitate Nvidia when the "hundred" system worked just fine.
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AMDs marketing is completely godawful, they could make the best value and best peforming card known to man, and their marketing team would still fuck it up astronomically.
 
Adash said:
Not even DigitalFoundry states that, and they believed the Nvidia-esque marketing with "up to" 45% higher framerates (i.e, in like 1 edge case they got 45% more performance or some shit while the rest is like 30% or lower)

It's most likely a 6800. To be fair, I definitely overestimated the capabilities of the B580, but a used 6800 goes for like 300-350 bucks, which adds 50-100 to the price, so instead of 1 year of PS Plus, it's 2/3. Hopefully Intel releases the B770 soon.
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We know exactly what's in the PS5 Pro, because the specs have been made public. It's an RDNA 3.0 GPU with 60 CUs clocked at 2.18-2.35 GHz. The 7800 XT is an RDNA 3.0 GPU with 60 CUs clocked at 2.12-2.43 GHz. It appears to be the exact same processor with a 5% slower clock speed and a ~10% slower memory clock. It's not an RDNA 2.0 GPU like the 6800. One of the key differentiators is raytracing performance on the 6000 series is so bad as to be useless, while it's acceptable on the 7000 series. The PS5 is similar to a 6600 XT, though.

Key specs:

GPURDNACUsPeak clockBandwidthFP32
PS52.0342.23 GHz448 GB/s10.3 GFLOPS
6600 XT2.0322.59 GHz256 GB/s10.6 GFLOPS
PS5 Pro3.0602.35 GHz576 GB/s33.5 GFLOPS
7800 XT3.0602.43 GHz624 GB/s37.3 GFLOPS

So no, you're not building a "PS5 Pro Killer" with a $300 GPU. I wouldn't consider a marginally better GPU to be a "killer," which is why I said a 4070 Super or something in that tier.
 
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The Ugly One said:
We know exactly what's in the PS5 Pro, because the specs have been made public. It's an RDNA 3.0 GPU with 60 CUs clocked at 2.18-2.35 GHz. The 7800 XT is an RDNA 3.0 GPU with 60 CUs clocked at 2.12-2.43 GHz. It appears to be the exact same processor with a 5% slower clock speed and a ~10% slower memory clock. It's not an RDNA 2.0 GPU like the 6800. One of the key differentiators is raytracing performance on the 6000 series is so bad as to be useless, while it's acceptable on the 7000 series. The PS5 is similar to a 6600 XT, though.

Key specs:

GPURDNACUsPeak clockBandwidthFP32
PS52.0342.23 GHz448 GB/s10.3 GFLOPS
6600 XT2.0322.59 GHz256 GB/s10.6 GFLOPS
PS5 Pro3.0602.35 GHz576 GB/s33.5 GFLOPS
7800 XT3.0602.43 GHz624 GB/s37.3 GFLOPS

So no, you're not building a "PS5 Pro Killer" with a $300 GPU. I wouldn't consider a marginally better GPU to be a "killer," which is why I said a 4070 Super or something in that tier.
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IIRC the PS5 pro lacks the infinity cache that the 7800XT has, so the performance is subst lower than then 7800XT
It also lacks dual issue FP32, so it’d 16.5 TFLOPS (not that it makes a real performance difference)
 
The Ugly One said:
So no, you're not building a "PS5 Pro Killer" with a $300 GPU. I wouldn't consider a marginally better GPU to be a "killer," which is why I said a 4070 Super or something in that tier.
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Eh. In my mind, a "killer" is *matching* a console with the same price. Simply because PC gives you that much more freedom.

I'd also like to stress that I didn't take this seriously. I went to PCPartPicker, saw what parts that I knew were similar to the PS5/PS5 Pro in some way, and chose them.
The Ugly One said:
We know exactly what's in the PS5 Pro, because the specs have been made public. It's an RDNA 3.0 GPU with 60 CUs clocked at 2.18-2.35 GHz. The 7800 XT is an RDNA 3.0 GPU with 60 CUs clocked at 2.12-2.43 GHz. It appears to be the exact same processor with a 5% slower clock speed and a ~10% slower memory clock. It's not an RDNA 2.0 GPU like the 6800. One of the key differentiators is raytracing performance on the 6000 series is so bad as to be useless, while it's acceptable on the 7000 series. The PS5 is similar to a 6600 XT, though.
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See, the issue with that is that Mark Cerny stated that it wasn't really RDNA 3. Most of it (i assume most to make it easier for devs to develop for both pro and normal) is based on 2, while taking features from RDNA 3. I also don't think I've seen much ray tracing from the Pro.
My question is, if it really is public, can you show where you found this data? I can't seem to find it anywhere....
 
Some more news.

European hardware sales down 20% across the board; 15% Switch decrease, 48% Xbox decrease, PS5 20% decrease Year-on-year. Christmas sales will be a bloodbath.

So much for the PS5PRO moving millions of units or a price drop moving millions of units.

The Sonygger cope? "The PS5 is at the end of it's life" - what they don't realise is Switch is older and has less of a drop.

Soyny fans also downplaying the power of the Switch 2 which is leaked to be 1.8-3.0 Tflops with 12 gbs RAM. It's a Portable PS4 and will sell gang busters.

GTA 6 launches in November (supposedly). By then, it will be too late to move PS5 units in any decent number.

Sony are really snookered.
 
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