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If apple or alphabet or samsung or amazon wanted to break into the console market
This is a fun thought experiment, and I can't resist.

Apple wouldn't lower themselves to produce a low-spec low-cost console, so they'd go the "boutique" route with a high-priced console with their "Apple silicon" SoC's and their famously nasty walled garden model. Online-only, of course (Apple ID/account required). Generic but overpriced controllers. They're probably in the best position in terms of infrastructure to crank out tools for a tightly-controlled ecosystem that's a pain in the ass for developers and useless for anything else Apple-related, and to produce final hardware and software so locked-down it won't even be worth trying to crack (someone will do it anyway just to piss them off though). The system would be priced higher than the priciest 3DO back at its launch, sell like shit (only Apple fags would bother) and last maybe 2 years before they deprioritize or give up on it. First-party software will be mediocre, third-party software non-existent.

Google/Alphabet has lots of hardware experience thanks to Android, has existing software and hardware infrastructure for digital sales, but like practically everything they've ever done, the first iteration would be half-baked enough to give it a bad reputation and strangle it in the crib. Support would end unceremoniously 2 years post-launch. It'd launch with pricing to undercut Switch 2, be online-only (Google account required), have weird controllers no one likes, and the only software you'll ever see on it is mobile slop and shovelware.

Samsung would be entertaining to watch. They make solid hardware and (barring those fucking "smart TVs") reasonably good software (their flavor of Android is surprisingly flexible and fast). They're in the best position to produce a high-spec Android-flavored console at a decent price, but they're the only one in this list with no experience whatsoever with content production of any kind. They'd be completely dependent on third-party developers at the start to have a decent launch lineup and first couple of years' worth of software support, and the quality of those releases would make or break the console. Given the available "talent" in this industry in recent years, that effort would be doomed from the start.

Amazon has the most experience with dirt-cheap modestly powerful hardware. Those Fire TV 4k Sticks are fucking insane these days and they're still routinely sold for $30 a piece. Their e-readers and tablets are similarly cheap (for the most part). I know they subsidize most of the hardware on the assumption it'll capture customers, but I see no reason why they wouldn't do the same for a game console. They've got tons of infrastructure and engineering expertise, and experience with content production (TV and film). Of course, they've already dipped their toes into game software production, and those failures have all been spectacularly entertaining. They've also made some retarded moves, like licensing CryEngine and paying CryTek a fucking fortune so they could fork it, publish all its source code and do their own thing with it. It was called "Lumberyard," and flopped like a dying fish on a bear-soaked fishing pier.

Apple, Alphabet and Amazon are substantially woke-contaminated, which would automatically taint their creative output, and they're so monstrously wealthy they'd all take the "lol just throw money at it" approach (which we've seen rarely works ... I think only Microsoft managed to crank out two winners in a row on their first try when they dove into the console market). Samsung is Korean, so wokeness wouldn't be as much of a problem, but they've got the least experience producing entertainment content. They're not as wealthy though, so they would at least pay some attention to controlling costs and would be more likely to approach AA developers than the other three would be.

I genuinely don't think any of them would meet with any success, but the hardware would be fun to tinker with (apart from whatever Apple vomits up, because it'll be so locked down and undocumented it won't be much more useful than a paperweight) and the attempt to muscle into the console market would be entertaining as fuck. It also might kick one of the big three in the rear enough to start actually innovating again instead of just iterating on the mediocre current generation hardware & software.
 
Samsung is Korean, so wokeness wouldn't be as much of a problem, but they've got the least experience producing entertainment content. They're not as wealthy though, so they would at least pay some attention to controlling costs and would be more likely to approach AA developers than the other three would be.

Since Samsung is one of the chaebols in South Korea, which are massive family-owned conglomerate companies, they would have money to spend. Whether or not they want to do that, and also how the operating budget is split among Samsung's various divisions, is still a question if Samsung would be interested in making a video game console.

The closest Samsung got to making a console was back when they were selling re-branded SEGA consoles in the 1990s, to bypass the restriction on selling Japanese products in South Korea at the time:



 
I do not want current California fagged up Sony to attempt a PS2 mini console and believe that that fad is long gone, but there are plenty of really strong options with minimal 3rd party input. The big problem they have is that the "HD Remake" and later """remaster""" type games drew quite heavily from PS2 games. There isn't much that hasn't been retrodden at least once and often multiple times, you're getting into stuff like the Dark Cloud games and even that was on PS4's crummy PS2 emulator.

Nobody seems to be screaming for a re-release of Champions of Norrath or ATV Offroad Fury in inconvenient extra console form.
 
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I do not want current California fagged up Sony to attempt a PS2 mini console and believe that that fad is long gone, but there are plenty of really strong options with minimal 3rd party input.
There's always a market for novelties. If Nintendo announced an N64 Mini for Christmas it'd sell out instantly. I'm pretty sure even their little clock did well.
 
More rumours coming in thick and fast that Marathon has been delayed due to Sony cancelling ALL marketing events.

Bungie’s Marathon is likely to be delayed as a new report claims Sony has now canceled all paid marketing plans.


Bungie’s upcoming shooter, Marathon, just can’t seem to catch a break. What started as a highly anticipated Closed Alpha Test has hit roadblock after roadblock, leaving fans wondering if the game will actually see the light of day this year.


First, the studio was rocked by an art theft scandal when it was revealed that some of Marathon’s promotional materials and in-game art were directly copied from an indie artist’s work, ANTIREAL. Bungie quickly apologized and promised to review all assets, but the damage was already done.

The Art plagiarism is real:

Marathon Alpha Draws New Plagiarism Accusations Against Bungie as Artist Says Game Is “Plastered” with Stolen Art

My personal take is that the plagiarism wasn't done on purpose, but because Bungie used AI to cut corners and whoopsie-daisy, they were caught.



Sony fans are celebrating 2.5 million players (number questionable) on Helldivers 2. 50% of those players are on Steam.
Memba when Sony fans said PC is a dying, pointless platform? Looks like it's alive enough to keep those MAU numbers propped up.
 
Kjn continues to police people's gaming habits and justifies taking creepy photos of himself.

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My personal take is that the plagiarism wasn't done on purpose, but because Bungie used AI to cut corners and whoopsie-daisy, they were caught.

Bungie's Art Director and many of his subordinates followed the X account of 4nt1r34l (Antireal), the artist who got plagiarized. The art in the game wasn't the result of a collage of assets generated by AI using pixel noise patterns, it was a direct one-to-one copy-paste of the artist own work, down to her logo.

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She even hid "loss" in her work and never mentioned until recently and lo and behold, it is in a Marathon wall texture.

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This wasn't a "oopsie-daisy", it is an intentional pattern of behavior by unscrupulous developers who thought they could bold face steal someone else's work and get away with it. This is the FOURTH time Bungie has been caught using assets from other artists without accreditation nor compensation. Ultimately Bungie had to admit to this because it was undeniable.

Sony also cancelled all upcoming promotional events for the game because they know it is now a PR disaster.

Now for my 2 cents:
Marathon is going to be DOA and Bungie by next year, at the latest, will be shut down. It is Concord all over again.
 
Bungie's Art Director and many of his subordinates followed the X account of 4nt1r34l (Antireal), the artist who got plagiarized. The art in the game wasn't the result of a collage of assets generated by AI using pixel noise patterns, it was a direct one-to-one copy-paste of the artist own work, down to her logo.



She even hid "loss" in her work and never mentioned until recently and lo and behold, it is in a Marathon wall texture.


This wasn't a "oopsie-daisy", it is an intentional pattern of behavior by unscrupulous developers who thought they could bold face steal someone else's work and get away with it. This is the FOURTH time Bungie has been caught using assets from other artists without accreditation nor compensation. Ultimately Bungie had to admit to this because it was undeniable.

Sony also cancelled all upcoming promotional events for the game because they know it is now a PR disaster.

Now for my 2 cents:
Marathon is going to be DOA and Bungie by next year, at the latest, will be shut down. It is Concord all over again.
I'll admit, I didn't look too closely into the plaigarism because I assumed it was a tit-for-tat "you copied work similar to mine". Never would I have imaged Bungie just straight stole work without accreditation.

Thank you for sharing the information and correcting my innocent assumptions. This is horrifying and both Bungie and Sony should be sued into oblivion for being so bold-faced in their theft.
 
God that game was such fucking kino, its a crime this game isnt talked more often. It was also one of the first first person brawlers IIRC ( preceded riddick by a few months and a very underrated sub genre). Guess thats what happened to alot of the cool stuff on the xbox that wasnt halo or on PC.
Absolutely stonkingly good game. I think it's what led to Mirror's edge as well. Riddick was a stonker as well.
Those games on the Xbox were generations ahead of their time. What a time to be alive it was. Every game seemed to be a genre-creating or genre-bending idea.
Condemned is another game that should have had a remaster, a VR remake and a sequel.
 
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I'll admit, I didn't look too closely into the plaigarism because I assumed it was a tit-for-tat "you copied work similar to mine". Never would I have imaged Bungie just straight stole work without accreditation.

Thank you for sharing the information and correcting my innocent assumptions. This is horrifying and both Bungie and Sony should be sued into oblivion for being so bold-faced in their theft.
Honestly, it is beyond parody. Hard to believe it is true. They stole not just the kitchen sink but the entire land the house was on. This is a slam dunk of a lawsuit that will end any studio.
 
Bungie are also currently losing their lawsuit over stealing some dude's story and using it for destiny 2
Funniest part about that is Bungie deleted the story campaign they're getting sued over from the game, so they had to submit fan wiki pages and some random guy's 10 hour long Youtube lore dump as the evidence for how the game's plot isn't plagiarized, but the judge threw it all out (at least for use in asking for a dismissal before full trial) because the court is supposed to be examining the works directly, not using third-party sources. And Bungie has said they don't have the code for it anymore and can't rebuild the campaign to show to court, so they have no first-hand sources to use in their defense.
 
I almost want to call bullshit on this (hard drives are cheap these days) but it's Bungie and they legitimately might be this incompetent.
I'm sure there's plenty of old youtube videos that include the old campaign that would've been plenty enough to present in court. It's not like they had to play the game live right there in the courtroom
 
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