Space Station 13 and Its successors communities - Lolcows and milk... In spess

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The White Dream split happened August 2024, i.e. - few months ago and what is kind of funny, it's actually relevant to whole Wizard Den case file.

Long story short, White Dream was dehubbed on November 2023 - full-on schizoposting in announcements, transfer to SSMV, et cetera.
Then, coup happens on White Dream in August 2024 - ONIKS and 90% of staff members are banned, they split off into splinter server. Valtos gets rehubbed immediately after. Totally reminds me of DV-Nyano stuff.

This whole thing also results in Sunrise DMCA into Hetzner abuse report into PJB going mental over EE. Insider knowledge - Wizards were trying their hardest to not dehub Lust Station since they are hosted by Sunrise and stalled Hetzner as much as possible. So yeah, there's another layer to it.
 
A lot of Russian projects have quite the freaks on top of the command chain - usually those servers are also in the top of the list on Wizden hub.

"The PDF" thing, that is hosted on Skyedra site, has some details on Corvax / Morty who at the time was "Russian ambassador" or something - it was known for a fact that Morty was very close to 14y.o. boy (he made them project manager as well).

Nowadays, new sweethearts of Wizden in Russian community are BOICH, host and project manager of "Dead Space 14" (Мёртвый Космос) who grooms and sextalks to underage players openly in their Discord, and Lust Station's project manager - SShved, who is 16 y.o. (presumably, a lot of DM leaks where he says he's 16). "Lust Station" means exactly that, yeah.

Basically, a lot to unpack here, I can try to compile all of that into something more palatable and get screencaps.

There's also Valtos-ONIKS drama, much smaller thing compared to pedocatastrophe of Wizard Den - but at least it's fun in a lighthearted way, with dookies on doorsteps and schizoposts.
Most of the community doesn't speak russian but pretty much yeah, I would argue the russian side of the community is filled with more freaks than the english one, we just don't know about the good cows because of the language barrier and how inside everything is.
 
Since I am a newfag here yet I do want contribute, I'll do my best to document Wizard ties with RU-community. I will update this as soon as I get new information and per request.

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Why this is relevant?

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Two of the most viewed posts regarding dehubbing on SS14 are directly tied with White Dream - even Nyano, first victim of troon vengeance, did not have such traction.

White Dream also, at the time, was second largest server network, rivaling Corvax at the time, and were trying to "bring back good old SS13 days". They're also prominent on coding scene, had collaboration with Hippie Station and so on.

I will give my opinion on White Dream - they're mixed bag, they look both based and retarded at the same time to me. Quite good at causing Wizards to produce more milk and being somewhat self-aware yet colluding with EE and AGPLosers. They're also seem to be aiming and making actually good game over at WWDP. Anyways.

Anyway

Basically, ONIKS / Scituzer2 is someone from Animus Station days who somehow managed to become project manager on SS14 server - and was quite good at it. Yet, because of tendency to schizopost, jannyhate and other stuff - they've attracted strikes every month. Yet what is fascinating, is this:

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Apparently, Wizards have had hateboner on ONIKS for quite some time before because they learned that ONIKS/Scituzer2 organized raids on Citadel and other proto-ERP servers in 2015. Talk about bad blood.

Anyways, fast forward to current date.

After White Dream was dehubbed, they still had stable online ranging in 100+~ players. They've also have had episodes, where they tried to slither back into Wizard Hub that coincided with ONIKS's absence:

1) February 2024, first try. Totally failed, because some player asked Wizards directly, are they letting White Dream back - and blows the whole deal open. It was revealed that Valtos (White Dream host) was talking with Wizards regarding "getting back into hub", and main requirement - getting rid of ONIKS. Guy who tried to pull this off literally vanishes without any notice.

2) April-May 2024, Fray2 (PKS cronie) was a new project manager after first try failed and previous project manager disappeared into thin air. Immediately starts "talks" with Wizards again. Starts purging ONIKS's schizoposts on forums and in Discord, which triggers them and other oldfags. From the cursory search, it seems that community started to side with ONIKS on this, they've also revealed plot to get back into hub which pisses off players even more and for some fucking reason - ONIKS gets back into project manager position, moving Fray2 aside.

3) August 2024, Valtos (White Dream host) finalizes their talks with Wizards regarding getting back into hub - purge everything and everyone, rename, etc. Nyanotrasen deal, basically. At the time, they've had somewhere around 100~ stable players between two servers (out of the hub, which is quite good imo) - and after the purge, online is now around 30~.

Now, this is important, because during his second "reign", ONIKS was organizing rebase to EE build - AGPL at the time and going open-source with some important SS13 mechanics and gamemode ports. When coup happened, almost every maintainer and coder moved over to the splinter server, WWDP, and continued rebase there.

This codebase split results in interesting situation, where hailrakes, friend of Valtos, PKS member and scammer-coder, moves to Sunrise - largest server network at the time, and ports WWDP code for cash. This results in ONIKS sperging out and going after Sunrise, DMCA'ing them - and then going after Hetzner of Wizards, for hosting DMCA'd content. This results in PJB melting down and dehubbing Einstein-Engines.
 
Most of the community doesn't speak russian but pretty much yeah, I would argue the russian side of the community is filled with more freaks than the english one, we just don't know about the good cows because of the language barrier and how inside everything is.
real difficulty is archiving and fact that all kinds of interesting shit are either lost to time or are too local / old to be of interest
 
One factor that seems quite different between Western communities and the Russian one is that it the hundreds of dollars you can get in Patreonbux goes way further for the Russians. The median Russian salary is $470 USD / mo. I've seen Russian patreons hitting $1000 / mo. The equilvalent for an American server would literally be like $10,000 / mo. This doesn't seem to have come with any reduction in the amount of turboNEET Discord groomers so they just have a completely additional type of drama on top of the usual.
 
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Russian servers also have other ways of profit, like selling antag-tokens. The only english server I know so far that tried this was Goobstation, and Durk only made at least 400 dollars from it.
One factor that seems quite different between Western communities and the Russian one is that it the hundreds of dollars you can get in Patreonbux goes way further for the Russians. The median Russian salary is $470 USD / mo. I've seen Russian patreons hitting $1000 / mo. The equilvalent for an American server would literally be like $10,000 / mo. This doesn't seem to have come with any reduction in the amount of turboNEET Discord groomers so they just have a completely additional type of drama on top of the usual.
 
Excellent work @Darkholme's Dungeon

More oldfag contributions:

"Introduction of traja (furfag bait) to ss13" - to cross off this from the list.

I believe the Tajaran was first introduced into Baystation 12 by a dev called CaelAislinn who now goes by Sorokyne (Discord ID: 258211883595595787). They were supposed to be an analogue to Khajit from Skyrim Elder Scrolls. if I recall correctly he's Australian and a notorious shit-coder, but I don't think he's actually a furry from what I hear and actually regrets their addition.

It was ported into other codebases afterwards.

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Some history I found on original owners of the species:
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Shouldn't this get infected or plagued? I've seen a large amount of SS13 avatars and names on this site from lurking for years and even Null is known to be into it.
 
Pretty sure those are only given when the thread is swarmed by non-kiwis of the community who want to sperg out or guard their beloved totally-not-pedo community members.
 
You needed to be logged in to access this thread and it hasn't even been a day since we got on community watch I doubt there are non kiwis watching
 
Oranges? What ever became of that dude? He ordered me a pizza one time irl for winning a raffle or something. This was like 8-9 years ago.
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He still donates to Byond, but doesn't contribute to SS13 code (at least by making commits). He handed of head coder duties to one of his friends and im sure he's still active in the coderbus despite not "officially" contributing so he can maintain his aloof "over it" visage he's been going for, while still being knuckle deep in the game itself. I would imagine he has some ownership delusion because he's deep in the sunk cost fallacy of an open source project. He still sticks around the forums too because he has power in the community from tenure and thrives on saying retard contrarian things. Makes me wonder how he would react if it all collapsed because he's autistically stuck to it for over a decade. He doesn't even seem to like most /tg/ players anyways and he rarely even plays. Edit: I went and looked and he has 62 hours total playtime since 2012 if I am reading this correctly. He's the definition of the "coders don't play" meme.

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Oranges is still a semi-active member of TGstation. He regularly pops up in conversations in TG's discord, as well as the Coderbus discord, which he owns. He is officially a "maintainer", but he does not do much. Also, I believe he still owns the TGstation organization.
 
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I didn't really know him, or anyone too personally or anything like that, but the pizza thing was cool and stuck with me.
 
The Furry Freedom Force vs. SS13

Tactics:

  • Fur Inclusion Ultimatums
  • OOC Spamming
  • DDoS attacks
  • Furry Propaganda
  • Atmos Grief
  • Bombings
  • Hacking
I couldn't stop thinking of Lord of War when I read this.
 
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