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Among all this sperging I just wanna say I miss Stan lee so much :( I'm rewatching an interview conducted with Stan sometime around 98 when blade was coming out and I must say weather young or old stan just felt like a guy who was always enthusiastic about comics and loved telling great stories. Unlike the hacks making shitty sjw porn they call comics these days.


Miss you Stan, but you're home with Jack "the king" Kirby, Joe Simon, Micheal Turner, Steve ditko, Graham Ingles, Harvey kurtzman, Bill Gaines, gardner fox, bill finger, bob kane, Jerry siegel and Joe shuster.

All great men who gladly don't have to see how far the medium they made has fallen
 
I'm actually quite mixed on 3 Jokers.

There are some legit great story beats in it and the art is goddamn fantastic...

But the story ultimately goes nowhere and basically retreads what we already knew from Killing Joke and Death of the Family. The "big twist" kinda goes off like a wet fart. Nothing really changes except the Killing Joke origin is 100% canon. (Which, let's be real, for all intents and purposes effectively already was.)

Edit: Also, please for the love of God DC, bring back the classic Batgirl costume as it was used in this mini. It's infinitely better than the Burnside and the prototype outfits she has been wearing the last few years.
 
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Owlman3 said:
Good for them.

personally, I don’t give a fuck about real or fake genders. As long as you aren’t hurting others or yourself, identify as whatever you want.

But moving on from that, when the fuck are we getting another Secret Six book?
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I think there's gonna be at least one chimpout somewhere over an shit writer/artist whining about how people respect Morrison's pronouns but not theirs and then have a proceeding chimpout over how their work is soooo much better than Morrisons because he wasn't in the streets protecting people from NAZIs.
horrorfan89 said:
Among all this sperging I just wanna say I miss Stan lee so much :( I'm rewatching an interview conducted with Stan sometime around 98 when blade was coming out and I must say weather young or old stan just felt like a guy who was always enthusiastic about comics and loved telling great stories. Unlike the hacks making shitty sjw porn they call comics these days.


Miss you Stan, but you're home with Jack "the king" Kirby, Joe Simon, Micheal Turner, Steve ditko, Graham Ingles, Harvey kurtzman, Bill Gaines, gardner fox, bill finger, bob kane, Jerry siegel and Joe shuster.

All great men who gladly don't have to see how far the medium they made has fallen
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add Dwayne McDuffie to that list.

fuckin hell, we have people who want to tell new stories in a fun way but there's only so much that the big 2 are gonna do.
Aqua Panda said:
I'm actually quite mixed on 3 Jokers.

There are some legit great story beats in it and the art is goddamn fantastic...

But the story ultimately goes nowhere and basically retreads what we already knew from Killing Joke and Death of the Family. The "big twist" kinda goes off like a wet fart. Nothing really changes except the Killing Joke origin is 100% canon. (Which, let's be real, for all intents and purposes effectively already was.)

Edit: Also, please for the love of God DC, bring back the classic Batgirl costume as it was used in this mini. It's infinitely better than the Burnside and the prototype outfits she has been wearing the last few years.
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it's fun but I think the entire thing could have been stretched out into a mystery over the course of rebirth.

But that's require a number of more talented writers.

ten bucks says Babs gets another bullet through the spine.
 
Aqua Panda said:
Nothing really changes except the Killing Joke origin is 100% canon. (Which, let's be real, for all intents and purposes effectively already was.)
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Three Jokers itself is not canon so it can't really change the status of other stories.
 
Someone who worships a snake god is more likely to have interesting ideas than a generic SJW. Like, if Gail was better writer than Morrison (which she is not) I still would prefer reading Morrison because he does crazy shit.
 
GranDuke said:
Someone who worships a snake god is more likely to have interesting ideas than a generic SJW. Like, if Gail was better writer than Morrison (which she is not) I still would prefer reading Morrison because he does crazy shit.
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Based on Moore's output in last decade or two, his ideas are no longer much better that what an average wokester comes up with. It is just a different flavor of shit for the most part. Morrison is still mildly competent but gradually declining, and coming out as non-binary is just a publicity stunt. Either way, both Moore and Morrison's mystic shtick is just embarrassing at this point. If you want to do something like that you either go big like Jodorowsky or you end up coming across as an obnoxious, deranged larper.
 
I'm looking for decent 80s and 90s oriented podcasts about comics.
The Rob Liefeld one is prolific but his ego is still unbelievably huge. I want to hear some more reasonable chronicling of the Marvel to Image era of the 90s.

I used to have a pull box and would like to hear more about Malibu and Valiant comics when they were white hot.
 
Anon88 said:
Lol how far did you get I had to drop x of swords halfway through issue 2 because I hated it so much
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Today's drops. Spoiler had been posted on Monday (which were so pants on head retarded that in my gut I knew they had to be true) but the execution somehow managed to be even worse.
Heyyy Bubba said:
I'm surprised Liefeld isn't involved, it's like a 90s Power Rangery idea at first glance.
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It's so much worse. We're in "I CLAPPED WHEN IT SUBVERTED MY EXPECTATIONS" territory now.
 
Cactuar King said:
Any chance of a summary or something?
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Saturnyne is pissed at mutants in general because Apocalypse is fucking around with Otherworld magic, Betsy Braddock is Captain Britain, Chuck resurrected Jamie Braddock, and she's not getting dicked by Brian Braddock.
Apocalypse's wife finally decides it's time to take the kids back to earth and decides the best way to do so is killing her way across Otherworld.
Saturnyne is sick of all this shit and decides to force a tournament between chimping muggas and everyone has to go find swords because she's been watching shonen anime and fucks with magic so dead x-men now come back as broken tards.
Montage arc of muties getting swords.
Fight hype. Dinner party ruined by Logan chimping and a failed poisoning attempt.
Tournament starts and Saturnyne goes full autistic 9 year old with dumb shit.
The one truly good part of this is Sinister being a smug dick because he wasn't the one to ruin everything first, running an illegal clone farm in his basement, and everyone getting tired of him being a smug dick so they send him to Otherworld with his Cluster B personality disorder team and hoping he fucks things up worse but he just loses his cape to Jamie.

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40 Year Old Boomer said:
The one truly good part of this is Sinister being a smug dick because he wasn't the one to ruin everything first, running an illegal clone farm in his basement, and everyone getting tired of him being a smug dick so they send him to Otherworld with his Cluster B personality disorder team and hoping he fucks things up worse but he just loses his cape to Jamie.
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Smug dick Sinister and the bitchy sniping between him and Exodus is one of the best parts of the whole HoxPoxDox saga

The second best part was Emma being called a filthy skank that needs to wash her dirty pussy by a villain that was Betty White as a Reaver. This was her reaction:

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GoPro said:
Based on Moore's output in last decade or two, his ideas are no longer much better that what an average wokester comes up with. It is just a different flavor of shit for the most part. Morrison is still mildly competent but gradually declining, and coming out as non-binary is just a publicity stunt. Either way, both Moore and Morrison's mystic shtick is just embarrassing at this point. If you want to do something like that you either go big like Jodorowsky or you end up coming across as an obnoxious, deranged larper.
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IIRC, Final Crisis had a lot of editorial messing around and Morrison still delivered a really fucking interesting story even if it was a gigantic mess at parts
40 Year Old Boomer said:
Saturnyne is pissed at mutants in general because Apocalypse is fucking around with Otherworld magic, Betsy Braddock is Captain Britain, Chuck resurrected Jamie Braddock, and she's not getting dicked by Brian Braddock.
Apocalypse's wife finally decides it's time to take the kids back to earth and decides the best way to do so is killing her way across Otherworld.
Saturnyne is sick of all this shit and decides to force a tournament between chimping muggas and everyone has to go find swords because she's been watching shonen anime and fucks with magic so dead x-men now come back as broken tards.
Montage arc of muties getting swords.
Fight hype. Dinner party ruined by Logan chimping and a failed poisoning attempt.
Tournament starts and Saturnyne goes full autistic 9 year old with dumb shit.
The one truly good part of this is Sinister being a smug dick because he wasn't the one to ruin everything first, running an illegal clone farm in his basement, and everyone getting tired of him being a smug dick so they send him to Otherworld with his Cluster B personality disorder team and hoping he fucks things up worse but he just loses his cape to Jamie.

Edited a dumb error.
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Sinister being Sinister is amusing.


Water-T said:
Smug dick Sinister and the bitchy sniping between him and Exodus is one of the best parts of the whole HoxPoxDox saga

The second best part was Emma being called a filthy skank that needs to wash her dirty pussy by a villain that was Betty White as a Reaver. This was her reaction:

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yeah the two dudes in the pic didn't want to laugh too hard but jesus christ that was fucking funny.
 
Cactuar King said:
Any chance of a summary or something?
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The other fellow upthread put forth a manful effort to get it down to a bulleted list, but it's really hard to capture how fucking weird it is.

The most puzzling part of it is the whole format: it's Marvel going back to a franchise-wide crossover that runs through every single book in the mutant line, which is something the big two quit doing 20 years ago, because everyone hated it. Readers hated it because it was a hassle to follow the plot through random issues of several series, and because there was never consistent quality control or continuity of storytelling. Which, shocking, is the exact problem with X of Swords. And creators hated it because they had to drop their ongoing storylines to do the crossover. It's why Peter David quit X-Factor in a giant huff lo those many years ago.

Bits and pieces of it are fun, mainly when they grab the basic lunacy of the story and run with it for laughs. Marauders #14 or #15 is just a bunch of people talking shit and playing parlor games at a dinner party, and it's hilarious. The Hellions issue people called out is good, like an incredibly violent dysfunctional family sitcom. But I've read the whole thing up to this point and if you tried to quiz me on any kind of sequence of events, or what the point of it all is supposed to be, I'd flunk.
 
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