Spunt's helpful guide to Britain for fat Americans - Learn about Anglos so you can hate them better

[Pig Boss]

How would you begin to solve the UK's problems?

Sink it and start over again.

 

[Spunt]

Why the UK is Collapsing
Part 3 - Brexit

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Mild PL here, but fuck it.

I fucking despise the EU. It was bad enough when it was just a glorified mechanism for funneling money into the pockets of French famers and German coal miners (and it still very much does these things, why do you think that the Germans insist on burning coal in their power stations rather than change to the renewables they're always bleating on about?), but it then became about a political union that would of course be dominated by Germany. Hilariously (unless you're German, but they don't find anything funny anyway) this resulted in the Germans taking on the entire Greek national debt rather than admit that a G8 economy and whatever turnip-based barter system the Greeks have really couldn't coexist under a single economic policy with a single currency.

Then there's the corruption, the fact that the EU's auditors have refused to sign off its accounts every year since 1992 because they literally don't add up, the waste, the inefficiency*, the intimidation of whistleblowers and of course the avalanche of crippling laws and regulations that (deliberately) sap away national sovereignty and destroy small business so that German state-backed megacorporations are the only businesses that can survive (the fact that this was exactly how Hitler organised his economy does not prove popular when pointed out).

*For non-Europoors, the entire European Parliament ups sticks and moves wholesale from Brussels to Strasbourg and back again twice a year. This involves thousands of staff and whole convoys of trucks full of documents, not to mention many 5-star hotel stays and first class plane tickets, paid for by MEPs out of their generous salarieshahahaha no it's paid for by the plebs of course. This farcical operation takes place because the French whined about the Belgians having the parliament, because Charles de Gaulle hated Belgium and said that it was "a country invented by the British to annoy the French", which if true makes it one of the UK's greatest achievements.

This box contains Greece's GDP​

The EU was a painful yoke around the UK's neck. It forced us to give up our low-tax, high-investment economy and thus surrender our competitive advantages against the over-regulated state octopi of continental Europe. It prevented us from achieving closer ties with the British Commonwealth or the USA, where we traditionally had our core economic sphere. The EU's drive for standardisation forced us to give up many things that were an important part of our national culture, things like Imperial measurements and more traditional farming techniques. It forced us to employ people to persecute business owners for doing the same things they had been doing for centuries. It caused our taxes to rise and our small businesses and independent traders to be buried under a mountain of regulations that only the biggest, most consumer-unfriendly companies could afford to comply with. It denied us the ability to set our own laws on a huge range of policy areas, including very important ones like immigration, energy policy and agriculture. Our membership of the EU was tearing us apart.

But I voted remain in the Brexit referendum.

Why? Well because I knew that what has happened since was going to happen. Brexit has been a complete and utter catastrophe for the UK and was one of the two events (the other being the coof) that tipped us over the edge from decline to collapse. As for working out why that happened, the first place to look is at the motivations and general competence of the leaders of the Leave campaign. Chief among who was Boris Johnson. And Boris approached the Brexit issue in the same way he approached everything else in his career - demonstrating a complete lack of morals and principles and telling massive lies.

"I am holding up six fingers."​

Boris was in fact on the fence about Brexit. Whether it was good for the country really didn't enter into his thinking, what he wanted to know is whether it would be good for Boris Johnson. So utterly lacking in principle was Boris that he wrote two draft articles for his newspaper column, one pro-Leave, and one pro-Remain, waiting until the last possible moment before the publication deadline in order to gauge which way the winds were blowing. In the end, Boris made one of the most Boris decisions of his career:

He would back the Leave campaign, and try to lose.

Boris' plan was as follows: If he became the leader of the Leave campaign within the Conservative party, and Remain (backed by Prime Minister David Cameron, one of his oldest friends and closest allies) won the referendum, he would be placed to lead the anti-EU faction within the Conservative party, and lead a revolt against Cameron for "betraying" the UK by backing Remain. The Conservatives would lose the next election, and he would strike, stabbing his old schoolfriend in the back to grab at power*.

*I told you it was a very "Boris" plan. The man was always a totally amoral phoney and serial liar, and the fact that everyone else only cottoned to this in 2022 is fucking embarrassing, frankly.

Instead, Boris and the Leave campaign won, by accident*, which blew his plan out of the water. On losing the referendum, Cameron resigned immediately, and enough Tory MPs were disgusted enough by Boris' skulduggery that he lost the ensuing leadership election to useless human traffic-cone Theresa May. Whoops.

*Partly, ironically, because of Boris' total contempt for the truth. A key part of Boris' campaign was a claim that the UK sent £350m ($500m) a week to the EU, which could be spent on the NHS. Now this was, like the best of lies, based on truth - that was indeed the sum the UK sent the EU each week, but what it omitted was that the EU gave pretty much all of it back in ringfenced EU funding for various things. Whilst leaving the EU would enable us to redirect that funding to the NHS, it would also require cutting £350m a week from the things the EU previously paid for, including things like agricultural subsidies, arts funding, development aid for poor areas, etc, which realistically wouldn't happen (it hasn't so far). But it was phrased in such a way that it sounded to the average peon that the UK was sending £350m a week into a black hole, which was a lie. Anyway, it was compelling enough that Boris put it on the side of a bus - which interpretation of the figure do you read from this:

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So the Leave campaign was fronted by a man who didn't want to win and had no plan as to what to do if he did. The referendum itself was inserted by the very much pro-EU Prime Minister David Cameron into the 2015 Conservative election manifesto as part of the deal with the right of the party to keep him as leader (they were unhappy with his failure to win the 2010 election outright against Gordon Brown's hopeless administration, forcing the Conservatives into a coalition with the Liberal Democrats), and part of that deal included a promise to leave the EU by a deadline of the 31st January 2020 if it was successful. Whilst the addition of the deadline was no doubt to prevent Cameron from filibustering it until the next election (due at the latest by March 2020), it also meant that there was only four years to come up with some sort of plan and agree it with the EU. Given how slowly the EU does things it *does* want to do, you can guess what the consequences of that were. And of course there was no way of delaying it in case, I dunno, there was some kind of huge crisis in late 2019 that clearly needed to take priority. Good thing that never happened or anything.

"I'll take "things that aren't worth doing" for 200, Alex"​

After the referendum, all hell broke loose. Cameron resigned, and Theresa May was elected on a sef-described mandate to "Get Brexit Done." Utter chaos ensued in the British Parliament. EU law required 2 years' notice and a formal plan, which meant that the UK's self-imposed deadline of the 31st January 2020 was really the 31st January 2018. May had played to the anti-EU gallery in the Tory party by promising to give the EU the notice a year ahead of time, in March 2017. So one year. One single fucking year to come up with a plan to not only extricate us from the EU, but also to build trade relationships with alternative partners such as the USA*, overcome any legal challenges to the referendum outcome and, most importantly to persuade the gallery of hooting apes that constitutes the British Parliament to agree on how to do it. This was especially difficult as a good 2/3 of MPs didn't want Brexit to happen at all (half the Conservative party didn't, and none of the other parties did either) and were determined to sabotage it.

*Donald Trump made no effort whatsoever to help the UK make a trade deal. Partly this was because he was a staunch protectionist, but mostly it was because back when Boris Johnson Mayor of London he repeatedly insulted Bad Orange Man after Trump (correctly) said that London was full of knife-wielding rape gangs.

It won't surprise you to that May didn't "Get Brexit Done". Rather than sit down and try to sort through the mess like an adult, she instead decided to act like a politician. Noting that the Labour Party had recently elected a hopeless beardy Trotskyist called Jeremy Corbyn to the leadership (more on that fiasco here) she decided that the best thing to do would be to call an election, to "strengthen her hand" by reducing the number of Labour MPs that would obstruct Brexit legislation in Parliament. However she horribly miscalculated, nearly losing the 2017 election and losing her majority in the House, a situation known as a "hung parliament" whereby the winning party has less than 50% of the seats. She was forced into an unofficial coalition with the Tories' friends in Northern Ireland, the DUP, effectively giving her a majority of just three votes even if all her MPs voted for her proposals.

Which they didn't. May agreed a proposal with the EU, but her own party revolted against her because it wasn't hardcore enough for them, and in particular it contained clauses relating the the Irish border that the DUP wouldn't support. The House rejected the proposal by 432 votes to 202, the biggest ever government defeat in the 1000-year history of Parliament. She won a vote of confidence, but then lost three more successive votes. After much negotiation, the EU extended the deadline until the 30th October 2019. By then May had resigned in disgrace and failure. Guess who, entirely out of the goodness of his heart, descended from his infernal Throne of Lies and offered to ride his pale horse to the rescue?

We are very fucked indeed.​

Boris had no more luck in getting anything through parliament than May did, despite underhand tactics such as calling a parliamentary holiday to prevent Parliament from debating the legislation (which was ruled to be illegal by the UK Supreme Court). So Boris missed the 30th October deadline and called a general election, winning a massive majority and finally ramming his Brexit deal, something he never wanted, though parliament, giving an exit date of the 31st January 2020 - 3 months later.

And no, Boris didn't manage to re-write all our laws or secure complex intercontinental trade deals in 3 months. He did manage to fuck up our response to Covid-19 though, so at least he was busy.

So we left the EU in a state of complete shambles, led by people who didn't want to leave (even though they campaigned to leave) and with no agreements with either the EU or the wider world, in the middle of a pandemic. Go us! This shambles has had a range of absolutely catastrophic consequences.

The UK is no longer part of the Schengen zone (where EU citizens can pass between EU countries without border controls), despite several non-EU countries such as Norway and Switzerland also being members, because we (for "we" read "about half the Tory party") wanted tougher immigration controls (the pro-Leave campaign pretty much ran their campaign as a vague referendum on immigration). This idiotic piece of grandstanding has been an unmitigated catastrophe:

- EU citizens living in the UK became subject to immigration checks, and we couldn't give them a clear answer on what the criteria would be. Faced with this uncertainty, and generally not feeling welcome, many left. Trouble was, these EU workers were a mixture of highly-paid (and highly-taxed) professionals and essential manual and semi-skilled workers - the NHS and the Social Care sector pretty much relied on their armies of Poles and Romanians who were willing to do thankless, often revolting work for horrible pay. We now have 160,000 unfilled vacancies for care workers, and even more vacancies for nurses and hospital porters. The lack of care beds to discharge patients to and a lack of nurses are the two primary reasons the NHS is collapsing and both are a direct result of Brexit. EU financial workers now face passport control and visas to visit and work in the City of London, so they are going to Frankfurt instead.

- In the meantime, the "problem" immigrants are mostly from Commonwealth countries so their entry conditions are unaffected. And of course illegal immigrants are, well, illegal so they don't care. Thus we have managed to keep all the immigrants we don't want while getting rid of all the ones that made the country just about function.

- The border between Northern Ireland and the Irish Republic is committed to being an open border without passport checks, a result of 30 years of careful negotiations during the end of the Troubles. So to avoid having to close that border, we instead had to institute passport and customs controls between Northern Ireland and the rest of the UK. British citizens now have to present passports and have any goods in their lorries inspected and fill out a mountain of paperwork just to travel from one part of their own country to another, even if they're not going anywhere near the Republic. Imagine having to prove your identity to travel from Illinois to Michigan. This has caused the price of imported goods in Northern Ireland (which is basically all of it seeing as everyone there is either unemployed or in jail) to surge even beyond the UK's catastrophically high inflation levels.

- Industries that require free movement of people have been decimated. As an example, take the once dominant UK music industry. Musicians from all over Europe would gravitate to London and Manchester to form bands and seek their fortune, but now they need to pass immigration standards to work here so they don't bother and go to Berlin instead. Any band doing an EU tour needs to fill out twice as much paperwork if they want to play in the UK, so British music fans miss out on many tours by the biggest bands. And British artists touring Europe now need work visas for *every single country they play*, which is unaffordable for most even if every band and crew member meets the Byzantine criteria of every single country which they almost never do. Many of my favourite British bands have split up because they can't make any money. RIP Sikth

tbh I just wanted a picture that wasn't of Boris Johnson​

There's worse. As part of Boris' deal with the poo-flinging howler monkeys on the Conservative benches, he agreed that, whilst all EU law would be copied onto the British statute books at the moment of Brexit, any legislation that had not been reviewed or replaced by the 31st December 2023 would be automatically repealed. Trouble is, the EU being what it is, there's an awful lot of it, and we've barely looked at any of it because we're too busy running around screaming in a blind panic about literally all the other catastrophes we're already dealing with. We are now facing a deadline (which we arbitrarily set ourselves) in 11 months whereby a vast amount of our laws will just ... disappear? And nobody knows what the fuck is going to happen. All that we do know is that this includes such things as the laws that ban water companies from discharging raw sewage onto tourist beaches, our data privacy laws, almost all our employment law and all our human rights law. A lot of that law was bad, but no law at all is not an improvement. Still, I'm sure it will be fine. The country will have probably capsized into the Atlantic by then anyway.

"Hey Kev, there's no laws any more!"
"Yeah Wayne, we know!"​

And no, we have no trade agreement with anyone. Even our agreement with the EU is very basic, requiring extensive customs paperwork and the payment of fees for all goods coming in and out of the EU, which is 80% of it (even if it didn't originate in the EU, if it passes through the French border it needs to be filled out). Aside from causing 20-mile traffic jams on the way to our channel ports, it has caused the cost of our imports to surge and raised the costs of our goods for anyone outside the UK, simultaneously adding to our hideous inflation problem and cutting our income, causing export-based businesses to go bankrupt in droves. And of course Sleepy Joe is no more interested in making some kind of trade deal with the UK than Bad Orange Man. Why would anyone make a deal with us when they can make a deal with the EU? And why would the EU make a deal that would favour the UK when we're not a part of it? It's almost as if nobody thought it through and there was never any kind of plan.

Personally I think that Brexit could have worked. We should at the very least have stayed part of Schengen and come to the relationship with the EU that Switzerland and Norway have - and those countries are still very much in charge of their immigration and trade policies. We should have set a changeover and negotiation period of at least 10 years with a gradual switchover, giving us time to integrate with other trade blocs and come to a sane solution to migration, import/export, EU workers, the Irish border and all the other issues we gave ourselves a grand total of 3 months to resolve in the end. But then again we should have catapulted Boris Johnson into the moon 30 years ago. It was never going to happen, as a nation we couldn't organise a piss-up in a brewery.

I'd come up with some sort of pithy conclusion but frankly I'm too depressed to keep typing.

Next: Part 4: Overcrowding

 

[Absolutego]

@Spunt, does any of the blame for Brexit being handled so badly fall on Nigel Farage's shoulders? He was one of the premier politicians who campaigned for Leave, but actually looked like he meant it, and also quit politics in the immediate aftermath of it passing.

 

[East_Clintwood]

@Spunt, does any of the blame for Brexit being handled so badly fall on Nigel Farage's shoulders? He was one of the premier politicians who campaigned for Leave, but actually looked like he meant it, and also quit politics in the immediate aftermath of it passing.

Not really because Farage had literally zero actual power to affect any of it, given he was only ever elected to the European parliament, and IIRC UKIP lost it's sole MP in the 2017 election.

 

[Absolutego]

Not really because Farage had literally zero actual power to affect any of it, given he was only ever elected to the European parliament, and IIRC UKIP lost it's sole MP in the 2017 election.

Is it even plausible within the British political system that if Farage had tried to be involved in figuring out Brexit, the Tories would have let him? That's more my question. I totally get how powerless UKIP was politically, but Farage on his own had this sort of soft power from what I could tell.

 

[RACISM]

This is one of the best threads on the farms. Always enjoy seeing updates, they are always very well written. That said,

But I voted remain in the Brexit referendum.

You're a nigger.

Yes there was no party who wanted brexit to happen and wouldn't fuck it up, yes there still isn't any party who will use those powers for good. One day there may be though. There was only one chance, and the vote had to go that way for the future of the country, for the decades and hundreds of years ahead where England will one day be ruled by someone who cares about its people. Yes, optimistic, I know.

All the fall out is worth it. Because of the potential given to the future. The Remain side calling for another referendum has been rightly laughed at, and for good reason. We all knew it was this or bust. It was the first time I set foot in a voting booth.

Not wanting to derail, and I know you aren't stupid, and understand why you think like you do.

Just wanted to throw a contrasting viewpoint out there for our American onlookers.

Looking forward to the next instalment.

 

[Spunt]

Is it even plausible within the British political system that if Farage had tried to be involved in figuring out Brexit, the Tories would have let him? That's more my question. I totally get how powerless UKIP was politically, but Farage on his own had this sort of soft power from what I could tell.

Absolutely not. So much so, in fact, that there were two entirely different Leave campaigns - the one fronted by Boris with his lies about the economy, and the one fronted by Nigel Farage which campaigned on the grounds that Brexit would mean less brown people, which was also a lie, but a different one. The Tories refused to have anything to do with Farage because they were terrified he'd steal all their votes if they gave him "legitimacy". Which he did anyway. lol.

You're a nigger.

Well you do appear to be an expert on niggers, so I'll have to take that one on the chin.

All the fall out is worth it. Because of the potential given to the future.

Have you looked outside recently? This country is fucked, whether we're in the EU, NAFTA or fucking ComIntern.

My personal theory was that the EU was going to implode on its own with the Euro crisis, being reformed as the free-trade bloc it was conceived as, something the UK could happily be a part of without everything descending into farce. I was wrong about the first bit, but if the war in Ukraine carries on for another year or two, or another crisis hits, the EU in its current form doesn't have much of a future.

 

[Cats]

Some of my favorite words from the British Languag:

Numpty
Pilliock
Arse
Bleeding Arse
Fookeenelle
Wamk
Mank
Twonk
Nonce
Mate
Guv
Higgeldypiggeldy
Coggeldyboggeldy


my favorite British Actor and musician is Devvo

"This int me house, it were this lady's but when I came, like, they were rebuildin it and like...so...I found crowbar and smacked her on fuckin ed wivvit and said "this is my fuckin house ye fuckin...silly bin"...an like, she stopped movin and breevin and that...cuz like I know this blood who works at like...he works at cemetry so like we just dug a rate shallow grave for it, I usually like, put like, some daffodils on about every two weeks or so..."

 

[Spunt]

Because I've been posting from a Dutch IP address as it seems faster and less glitchy than a UK one, I've been seeing the international BBC news front page rather than the UK one. One headline I saw just now said "UK PM sorry for removing seatbelt to film video" and it genuinely took me 4 tries to remember who that actually was this month.

At least when this happens to the Italians they win football trophies and can eat excellent food in the Mediterranean sun. A Pot Noodle in a hailstorm isn't quite the same.

 

[RACISM]

Absolutely not. So much so, in fact, that there were two entirely different Leave campaigns - the one fronted by Boris with his lies about the economy, and the one fronted by Nigel Farage which campaigned on the grounds that Brexit would mean less brown people, which was also a lie, but a different one. The Tories refused to have anything to do with Farage because they were terrified he'd steal all their votes if they gave him "legitimacy". Which he did anyway. lol.

Well you do appear to be an expert on niggers, so I'll have to take that one on the chin.


Have you looked outside recently? This country is fucked, whether we're in the EU, NAFTA or fucking ComIntern.

My personal theory was that the EU was going to implode on its own with the Euro crisis, being reformed as the free-trade bloc it was conceived as, something the UK could happily be a part of without everything descending into farce. I was wrong about the first bit, but if the war in Ukraine carries on for another year or two, or another crisis hits, the EU in its current form doesn't have much of a future.

I wish we had the "respectfully disagree but I still love you" rating option.

 

[Absolutego]

I wish we had the "respectfully disagree but I still love you" rating option.

lol just use "disagree", it expresses pretty much exactly the same sentiment without having to have everything autistically spelled out.
Because if people disagreed and disliked you, there are way meaner stickers to apply.

 

[Friendly Primarina]

Small point: the UK was never part of the Schengen Area. This source is from Wikipedia, but you are free to follow the citations:

When EU states were negotiating subsuming the Schengen Agreement into the EU by the Treaty of Amsterdam, Ireland and the United Kingdom were the only member states that had not signed the Agreement. The UK did not want to join and Ireland wished to maintain its Common Travel Area with the United Kingdom and associated islands, an arrangement that would be incompatible with Schengen membership while the UK remained out. As a result, both negotiated an opt-out from the part of the treaty which was to incorporate the Schengen rules (or acquis) into EU Law when it came into effect on 1 May 1999.

 

[Kier Starmer]

I just want to say I love you @RACISM

great articles as always @Spunt

 

[bongaloid]

Absolutely not. So much so, in fact, that there were two entirely different Leave campaigns - the one fronted by Boris with his lies about the economy, and the one fronted by Nigel Farage which campaigned on the grounds that Brexit would mean less brown people, which was also a lie, but a different one. The Tories refused to have anything to do with Farage because they were terrified he'd steal all their votes if they gave him "legitimacy". Which he did anyway. lol.

My personal theory was that the EU was going to implode on its own with the Euro crisis, being reformed as the free-trade bloc it was conceived as, something the UK could happily be a part of without everything descending into farce. I was wrong about the first bit, but if the war in Ukraine carries on for another year or two, or another crisis hits, the EU in its current form doesn't have much of a future.

Without too much power-levelling, I came to similar conclusions to you about the EU and was going to vote for Leave but ended up voting remain for two reasons - the absolute thundercunts on both Leave campaigns and their complete agreement on a plan being the main one and secondly having been given the job of assessing what impact it would have at work under various scenarios, where the only one that sort of worked was a Norway type arrangement. We've got through it, but with a fairly large hit to growth and with around 10% of our jobs having to move to the EU. The new trade deals have delivered absolutely fuck all that we didn't have already so far. Perhaps it will be better in the long term, but I don't see it with the current crop of Politiklowns.

However, I think that we should give credit where credit's due to the Remain campaign for being so fucking awful that it gave Boris and Farage a chance. It has also allowed for the pleasure of watching the local mongs who just "wanted the Poles to go home" finding that immigration hasn't gone down and the Poles have been replaced by lots of brown and black people they hate even more,

The EU will struggle on for at least another decade.

 

[RACISM]

It has also allowed for the pleasure of watching the local mongs who just "wanted the Poles to go home" finding that immigration hasn't gone down and the Poles have been replaced by lots of brown and black people they hate even more,

This shit is exactly why all the politicians involved need to be shown guillotines.
"Oh, a majority mandate saying less immigration? Have more pakis". It's the spiteful move of a political class that hates the normal people for not thinking like them. Fuck every one of those fucking niggers.

 

[teriyakiburns]

@Spunt when you say Schengen, I think you're meaning the European Economic Area, which developed alongside the EU as a part of the European Free Trade Agreement.

Also this:

EU law required 2 years' notice and a formal plan, which meant that the UK's self-imposed deadline of the 31st January 2020 was really the 31st January 2018.

This is absolutely not true. It appears nowhere in any of the relevant clauses of the treaties of the european union regarding a member state's secession from the union and was invented out of whole cloth at the start of the negotiations. Nobody is quite sure why they made it up, but I suspect it's actually one of the first things that was negotiated by May's team. One last laying of blame for a government's idiotic decision at the feet of the EU, and a way to stick it to the people who voted for Parliament to actually do its fucking job for a change.

edit for context: Article 50 only states that negotations for leaving the Union shall take place in accordance with article 218(3) of the consolidated treaties. 218 makes no mention of a requirement for at timeline, deadline, or plan of any sort. There is nothing within the acquis that specifies deadlines or timelines for the negotiation of treaties between the EU and third countries, other than what is decided by the EU and the other negotiating parties.

May was a remainer. I'm convinced she did everything she could to sabotage the negotiations, in the hope that people would demand a return to the EU. It's the only thing that explains all of the retarded decisions she pushed.

I voted leave at the time, on the belief that a win for remain would have settled the matter just about permanently, giving the EU time to complete its hollowing out and demolition of our national institutions. However, for the entire campaign (and for years beforehand), I maintained to everyone I interacted with that the result of leave should be at least 20 years of negotiations (because it took more than 40 years of incremental changes to get here), with the first act being to shift sideways from the European Union into the European Economic Area. This would maintain our membership of the Single Market, which removed trade barriers between member states, but release us from the Customs Union, which would mean that we'd have more leeway on what enters the UK from outside. That would have given us the ability to increase and improve our trade connections with the commonwealth and other countries. We would probably have had to negotiate some form of country-of-origin paperwork for goods that weren't compliant with the EU's import standards, but that would have been peanuts compared to what we have now.

It would take decades to properly untangle the miles of regulatory tape that have wrapped up every aspect of life in this country. It would take just as long for our leaders to learn how to govern again.

The real issue, which is never addressed in any debate on the topic, is this: What does the UK want to be in the future? Leaving the EU is meaningless if we have no plan for afterwards. AS things stand right now, we just float off into the Atlantic and then... sink, I guess (something I'm sure a lot of kiwis would celebrate), or become a useless backwater on the periphery of the world. England became the industrial powerhouse of the world because of its unique geographical position and resources. The UK is a sea trading nation. We have all sorts of geographical advantages, at least some local talent, and the commonwealth. Ours is the language of commerce and trade. We invented half the shit the world uses.

We could have looked at all that and begun to plan a future free of the EU, a positive goal to reach toward rather than the negative "end it all and burn the laws", but all we got from Boris, from Farage, from any public face of the leave campaigns was "lower taxes, no immigants, bendy bananas and a pint". They had no vision for anything other than their next grift. There has been no coherent vision of what this country should be for forty years or more. Just a sucession of mean, petty tyrants who wanted the trappings of office and the cushy sinecures that come after, but had no interest in improving the lot of the working man, and who in fact were utterly hostile to the idea of the plebs having more freedom and prosperity.

 

[RACISM]

become a useless backwater on the periphery of the world.

I wouldn't see anything wrong with this. Retreat from the world stage, stop getting involved in countless wars, and the rest of the world can fuck off (especially the French). Let's concentrate on our own problems, become as self reliant as possible, and hopefully give off a boring enough air that every wog in the world stops wanting to come here.

There has been no coherent vision of what this country should be for forty years or more. Just a sucession of mean, petty tyrants who wanted the trappings of office and the cushy sinecures that come after, but had no interest in improving the lot of the working man, and who in fact were utterly hostile to the idea of the plebs having more freedom and prosperity.

The missing piece of the puzzle is unironically racism. We need a leader who says fuck everyone, England for the English. Indigenous English people first, in housing, in jobs, in benefits, in medical care. In respect.

 

[teriyakiburns]

Let's concentrate on our own problems, become as self reliant as possible, and hopefully give off a boring enough air that every wog in the world stops wanting to come here.

It's more of a vision than this shower of useless cunts have.

 

[RACISM]

It's more of a vision than this shower of useless cunts have.

I should run for office really. Vote RACISM, leader of the Niggerjew Party (got to have a diversity inspired front name to get into politics).

 

[Spunt]

It's too late for me to edit the post now, but yes, I said Schengen when I meant the EEA. It's the thing that let's its members travel without visas, not passports, as well as conferring mutual rights of residency. Norway and Liechtenstein are members despite not being in the EU. Norway is not being overrun with brown people* but we had to grandstand like idiots.

*Liechtenstein has been, however, because Sean "Puffy" Combs once rented the entire country for a party, which is the most totally pimpin' thing I think a rapper has ever done.