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I don't even know if the MCU fantards can save this. Sure, there's some whales, but are there enough?
Square Enix's Avengers - Bootleg Avengers with stretchy terrorist.
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Either the backlash was intense enough for them to back down, or the boosts didn't take off as much as they hoped.
I'm actually surprised that Sony hasn't sued them yet for failing to fulfill the deal they made a year ago.
I'm actually surprised that Sony hasn't sued them yet for failing to fulfill the deal they made a year ago.
The Valeyard
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Square Enix claims Crystal Dynamics was the wrong fit for ‘disappointing’ Marvel’s Avengers (Archive)
The head of Square Enix has claimed that Crystal Dynamics was a bad fit for Marvel’s Avengers, given its lack of experience with the games as a service model.
Addressing shareholders in a statement published in the company’s annual report, president Yosuke Matsuda said Square Enix needed to learn from the game’s “disappointing” performance.
Notably, he highlighted the importance of matching development studios with “game designs” that best suit their skillsets and interests.
Avengers developer Crystal Dynamics is best known as the studio behind the single-player Tomb Raider series of games, and its next project is a collaboration with Xbox Game Studios on Perfect Dark.
“Marvel’s Avengers was an ambitious title for us in that we took on the GaaS (Games as a Service) model,” Matsuda said.
“We overcame a variety of unexpected difficulties in the final phase of the game’s development, including needing to transition to work-from-home due to the pandemic. We were able to surmount these challenges and release the game, but it has unfortunately not proven as successful as we would have liked.
“Nonetheless, taking on the GaaS model highlighted issues that we are likely to face in future game development efforts such as the need to select game designs that mesh with the unique attributes and tastes of our studios and development teams.
“While the new challenge that we tackled with this title produced a disappointing outcome, we are certain that the GaaS approach will grow in importance as gaming becomes more service oriented. How we go about creating new experiences by incorporating this trend into our game design is a key question that we will need to answer going forward.”
In a 2019 interview with GamesBeat, Matsuda explained why he thought Crystal Dynamics was well suited to Marvel’s Avengers.
“Crystal has always been a company that’s made games in the action-adventure space,” he said. “In that sense, I thought that it would be good fit in terms of making a game with Marvel using the Avengers, which would naturally be an action-based game.”
Marvel’s Avengers’ performance suffered partly due to technical problems present at launch. In addition to these issues, a lack of post-launch content, including delays to planned expansions and next-gen versions of the game, contributed to a dwindling player count.
Despite continued efforts to improve the game’s fortunes, Marvel’s Avengers is still suffering from major issues.
On Tuesday, Square Enix and Crystal Dynamics removed paid XP boosts from the game following a backlash from fans over their introduction.
The ability to buy XP and resource-collecting boosts with real money was controversially added to the game in October.
The move angered fans, who said its developer and publisher had gone back on promises that paid microtransactions would only ever apply to cosmetic items.
It was announced in September that Xbox had signed the Square Enix studio to co-develop Perfect Dark, which is the debut title from its new in-house studio The Initiative.
Former Crystal Dynamics studio head Darrell Gallagher now holds the same position at The Initiative, while the person in charge of the Perfect Dark project, game director Daniel Neuburger, was also previously game director on the Tomb Raider series.
Commenting on the surprising collaboration, Xbox Game Studios boss Matt Booty said that partnering with Crystal Dynamics on Perfect Dark was a no-brainer.
“It was not a standard situation because they’re not usually out billing themselves as sort of a co-development studio like many places are, but we found a way to make it work and I think it was through some of the personal connections that we’ve got,” he said.
Addressing shareholders in a statement published in the company’s annual report, president Yosuke Matsuda said Square Enix needed to learn from the game’s “disappointing” performance.
Notably, he highlighted the importance of matching development studios with “game designs” that best suit their skillsets and interests.
Avengers developer Crystal Dynamics is best known as the studio behind the single-player Tomb Raider series of games, and its next project is a collaboration with Xbox Game Studios on Perfect Dark.
“Marvel’s Avengers was an ambitious title for us in that we took on the GaaS (Games as a Service) model,” Matsuda said.
“We overcame a variety of unexpected difficulties in the final phase of the game’s development, including needing to transition to work-from-home due to the pandemic. We were able to surmount these challenges and release the game, but it has unfortunately not proven as successful as we would have liked.
“Nonetheless, taking on the GaaS model highlighted issues that we are likely to face in future game development efforts such as the need to select game designs that mesh with the unique attributes and tastes of our studios and development teams.
“While the new challenge that we tackled with this title produced a disappointing outcome, we are certain that the GaaS approach will grow in importance as gaming becomes more service oriented. How we go about creating new experiences by incorporating this trend into our game design is a key question that we will need to answer going forward.”
In a 2019 interview with GamesBeat, Matsuda explained why he thought Crystal Dynamics was well suited to Marvel’s Avengers.
“Crystal has always been a company that’s made games in the action-adventure space,” he said. “In that sense, I thought that it would be good fit in terms of making a game with Marvel using the Avengers, which would naturally be an action-based game.”
Marvel’s Avengers’ performance suffered partly due to technical problems present at launch. In addition to these issues, a lack of post-launch content, including delays to planned expansions and next-gen versions of the game, contributed to a dwindling player count.
Despite continued efforts to improve the game’s fortunes, Marvel’s Avengers is still suffering from major issues.
On Tuesday, Square Enix and Crystal Dynamics removed paid XP boosts from the game following a backlash from fans over their introduction.
The ability to buy XP and resource-collecting boosts with real money was controversially added to the game in October.
The move angered fans, who said its developer and publisher had gone back on promises that paid microtransactions would only ever apply to cosmetic items.
It was announced in September that Xbox had signed the Square Enix studio to co-develop Perfect Dark, which is the debut title from its new in-house studio The Initiative.
Former Crystal Dynamics studio head Darrell Gallagher now holds the same position at The Initiative, while the person in charge of the Perfect Dark project, game director Daniel Neuburger, was also previously game director on the Tomb Raider series.
Commenting on the surprising collaboration, Xbox Game Studios boss Matt Booty said that partnering with Crystal Dynamics on Perfect Dark was a no-brainer.
“It was not a standard situation because they’re not usually out billing themselves as sort of a co-development studio like many places are, but we found a way to make it work and I think it was through some of the personal connections that we’ve got,” he said.
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Ah yes, Squeenix dropping their partner company under the bus, what a typical move for a greedy company. I wonder how much money will they continuously fuel to FFXVI at this point.
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And nothing was learned.
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That's Square usual schtick when they don't make enough money, they blame their western studios. They did it to Crystal Dynamics (Tomb Raider 2013) and IO Interactive (Hitman Absolution).
The Valeyard
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They also did it to Eidos Montréal when they pulled the plug on the Deus Ex franchise.
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Yeah, Ms. Marvel also was the wrong fit as main character for the game retards.
Grand Wizard Wakka
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Sometimes even when their Eastern divisions fail, they blame the West. Back in FF14 1.0, before Yoshi-P took over, Tanaka blamed 1.0's failure on Westerners, and the fact nobody in the East liked it either was blamed on the corrupting influence of the West... lol
Not even just Square's schtick. Capcom blamed their generation of shit on Western studios for games they outsourced and trying to cater to Western audiences for the games they didn't outsource.
Putting all the other issues with her aside, am I the only one who thinks stretchy powers are stupid and lame?
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yeah I think Spidey would have been the perfect MC. Peter ofc, but Miles woulda been alright.
Articles and Nudes
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I still enjoy how the end game implies Captain America has zero issue taking the teenage terrorist on black ops missions to eliminate foreign targets.
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That one guts me. Mankind Divided's story will remain unfinished forever. Possibility to make room for capeshit. Yeah, the story wasn't great. Still hate that it's unfinished.
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I find it hilarious that I had no idea that shitty Guardians of the Galaxy game apparently came out.
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because he was a boring nerd. now compare it to the amount of people getting stiffies from helen parr.
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Degenerates getting a hard on to a cartoon doesn't mean that stretchy powers are not lame and stupid. It's mean they are degenerates who get off to cartoons.
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Nice, saddle them with an entirely different genre with live service nonsense and then throw them under the bus.
I get that Square has a rather dim view on their western developers, but this is such a dick move on their part.
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so what about the people that get a hard on from a comic book character...?
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This thing is on Game Pass so I decided to play it
tl:dr this game is boring
The game fails on so many levels, its almost hilarious, the game opesn with young Kamala on Avenger's day and you walk arounf the event and do some mini games that are meant to be the game's tutorial, except this is rendered pointelss by the fact that you play a small section with each avenger during the prologue, all with their own tutorial, and once you "unlock" them later in the story you get a tutorial section again.
I know jackshit about the comics so this will probably sound as heresy but I was somewhat interested in the story, the problem is that Kamala is not a good character to get you invested, they try to make her seem a "dorky fangirl" but she comes across as annoying, so far she has said maybe two things that made me chuckle but not enough to actually like her as a protagonist, she feels more like the comic relief.
The game is janky as fuck, there are jumping sections with her where you are supposed to jump then press a button so she stretches her arm and grabs onto a ledge and then pulls herself up, the problem is she will pull herself with such force you may end up launched into the void, or towards the next platform but fall in the middle, in a later mission you control Hulk and have to jump between some rocks, but he will sometimes jump in whatever direction he feels like and either fall into the void or fall short of the next platform.
the enemies are essentially just bullet spones, so far I've only used Kamala, Hulk and Iron Man (not counting the brief sections with the others in the prologue), Hulk is the worst offender on this category as some enemies will tank his punches really well. For example there are these enemies that have shields and will block your attacks so you have to hit them in the back, this fuckers will block even Hulk's punches, you are supposed to hold the dodge button so your character jumps over their shield and positions themselves behind the enemy, but I don't know if its a bug or intentional but I can't pull this move off with Hulk, so I'm stuck jumping and running around like a retard trying to land hulk behind him to get a few punches in before the enemy turns around and I have to start again.
The game stars as one of those games that is trying to be a movie, for example one of the first missions involves Kamala sneaking around the neighborhood while avoiding the bad guy's robots, and that was kinda cool, the problem is that so far that was the only mission like that, the rest of the game is incredibly repetitive, I'm not that far into the story and already several campaign missions are the same:
-Find the bad guy building
-Hold your ground near the door so it opens
-Enter the building and reach the elevator
-Fight a Boss (The same large mech with smaller henchmen)
-profit
I know jackshit about the comics so this will probably sound as heresy but I was somewhat interested in the story, the problem is that Kamala is not a good character to get you invested, they try to make her seem a "dorky fangirl" but she comes across as annoying, so far she has said maybe two things that made me chuckle but not enough to actually like her as a protagonist, she feels more like the comic relief.
The game is janky as fuck, there are jumping sections with her where you are supposed to jump then press a button so she stretches her arm and grabs onto a ledge and then pulls herself up, the problem is she will pull herself with such force you may end up launched into the void, or towards the next platform but fall in the middle, in a later mission you control Hulk and have to jump between some rocks, but he will sometimes jump in whatever direction he feels like and either fall into the void or fall short of the next platform.
the enemies are essentially just bullet spones, so far I've only used Kamala, Hulk and Iron Man (not counting the brief sections with the others in the prologue), Hulk is the worst offender on this category as some enemies will tank his punches really well. For example there are these enemies that have shields and will block your attacks so you have to hit them in the back, this fuckers will block even Hulk's punches, you are supposed to hold the dodge button so your character jumps over their shield and positions themselves behind the enemy, but I don't know if its a bug or intentional but I can't pull this move off with Hulk, so I'm stuck jumping and running around like a retard trying to land hulk behind him to get a few punches in before the enemy turns around and I have to start again.
The game stars as one of those games that is trying to be a movie, for example one of the first missions involves Kamala sneaking around the neighborhood while avoiding the bad guy's robots, and that was kinda cool, the problem is that so far that was the only mission like that, the rest of the game is incredibly repetitive, I'm not that far into the story and already several campaign missions are the same:
-Find the bad guy building
-Hold your ground near the door so it opens
-Enter the building and reach the elevator
-Fight a Boss (The same large mech with smaller henchmen)
-profit
tl:dr this game is boring