Megathread SRS and GRS surgeons and associated horrors - the medical community of experimental surgeons, the secret community of home butchers

[Bubonic_Vague]

Perfect timing. Some troon obsessed with lessening his "dysphoria" made a thread to ask about all these niche/experimental surgeries:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Transgende...7ox/questions_about_nontraditional_surgeries/ [archive]


The neuroticism on display is actually really interesting, IMO. This guy is seriously asking about surgeries for his spine, ribcage, pelvis, limbs, and more.
The commenters mostly try to talk him down. Dr. Barry Eppley gets a couple mentions though - he's apparently at the forefront of many of these experimental surgeries.

Spoiler: Informative Comments

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Holy shit, this crazy bastard actually believes
cho'H'a is a real thing.

Also, LOL at that troon who thinks his 5'11" height is what's putting cismales off him. VS models and Olympic women volleyballers average around that and I doubt they're getting blown off with a shudder.

 

[keyboredsm4shthe2nd]

But then they wouldn't be able to call the shots. To not only have the woke trans points but the power over the person they sleep with that has to deal with that mutant flayed penis they have now. Especially if they have a wife that has been brainwashed into believing they can't leave a transed out husband. Because that would be twansphobic.
Like that woman that had to drug herself to do oral.

You can't really call it oral if you're licking a wound.
Imagine saying "I got shot in the intestines so naturally I demanded my wife get on her knees and perform cunnilingus on the hole". Trannies and every one of their simps say this in complete seriousness and think it sounds sane.

 

[Sinner's Sandwich]

Trannies and every one of their simps say this in complete seriousness and think it sounds sane

Because for them it's not dick butchering it's creating a true and honest vagina. The genitals get re-arranged and are fully functional...at least in their fantasy. There is nothing that convinces these tards otherwise because they reject the truth and chose to stay in looney troon imaginationland. This wouldn't be a problem if these vile ghouls didn't try to force themselves onto other people.

 

[Mariposa Electrique]

Because for them it's not dick butchering it's creating a true and honest vagina. The genitals get re-arranged and are fully functional...at least in their fantasy. There is nothing that convinces these tards otherwise because they reject the truth and chose to stay in looney troon imaginationland. This wouldn't be a problem if these vile ghouls didn't try to force themselves onto other people.

Yes, I agree. I don't care what you do with your fetid ditch of hell as long as you don't shame me into touching it. I remember before this, people knew about "sex change" surgeries but people really didn't care about these off brand imitation stench blossoms because it didn't affect us.

 

[Crunchy Leaf]

Holy shit, this crazy bastard actually believes
cho'H'a is a real thing.

Also, LOL at that troon who thinks his 5'11" height is what's putting cismales off him. VS models and Olympic women volleyballers average around that and I doubt they're getting blown off with a shudder.

There are straight men who won’t date women taller than them, and 5’11” women do have issues dating in places where they are at or higher the average male height, which is most of the world.
That having been said, of course it’s not the same as straight men not wanting to date men.

Humans are less sexually dimorphic than other primates. An average female gorilla is 4’7” and between 150 and 200 pounds; an average male gorilla is 6’0” and between 300 and 500 pounds. Compare to humans, where the average American woman is 5’4” and 160 and the average American man is 5’10” and 195. Outside of a full beard and a super pronounced brow ridge, there’s really no one single feature a healthy adult male can have that a healthy adult female cannot also have. There’s women with strong jaws and big shoulders and men with delicate features and small hands and so on. But a woman with a strong jaw is still clearly a woman, because she’s the total of all her overall features, we don’t read gender just by looking at their jaw or hairline or height. Chelsea Manning is 5’2” and doesn’t pass.

 

[GenitalFetishist]

There are straight men who won’t date women taller than them, and 5’11” women do have issues dating in places where they are at or higher the average male height, which is most of the world.
That having been said, of course it’s not the same as straight men not wanting to date men.

Humans are less sexually dimorphic than other primates. An average female gorilla is 4’7” and between 150 and 200 pounds; an average male gorilla is 6’0” and between 300 and 500 pounds. Compare to humans, where the average American woman is 5’4” and 160 and the average American man is 5’10” and 195. Outside of a full beard and a super pronounced brow ridge, there’s really no one single feature a healthy adult male can have that a healthy adult female cannot also have. There’s women with strong jaws and big shoulders and men with delicate features and small hands and so on. But a woman with a strong jaw is still clearly a woman, because she’s the total of all her overall features, we don’t read gender just by looking at their jaw or hairline or height. Chelsea Manning is 5’2” and doesn’t pass.

Since we're already a bit off-topic.

Spoiler: Height

Personally, I think women get less shit for being tall than men get for being short. I'm much taller than average and never had problems dating (married now, but I doubt things have changed much since I've been out of the game). "Short" guys, even if they're only a couple inches under average male height, seem to feel it a lot more.

So yeah, I highly doubt being 5'11" is what's driving men away from that troon. The being male part, however...

 

[cuddle striker]

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"just enough conflicting evidence"= "there's no standard of care at all"

These surgeons don't even have a standard for healing after a surgery. Imagine if every heart surgeon had a different way of cracking the ribs and entered the chest from a different place on the body and none agreed on what you should do to recover after a transplant.

 

[KiwiFarms Username 632879]

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I'm impressed he didn't 41% himself. Points for strength of character I guess.

 

[sperginity]

Humans are less sexually dimorphic than other primates. An average female gorilla is 4’7” and between 150 and 200 pounds; an average male gorilla is 6’0” and between 300 and 500 pounds. Compare to humans, where the average American woman is 5’4” and 160 and the average American man is 5’10” and 195. Outside of a full beard and a super pronounced brow ridge, there’s really no one single feature a healthy adult male can have that a healthy adult female cannot also have. There’s women with strong jaws and big shoulders and men with delicate features and small hands and so on. But a woman with a strong jaw is still clearly a woman, because she’s the total of all her overall features, we don’t read gender just by looking at their jaw or hairline or height. Chelsea Manning is 5’2” and doesn’t pass.

This isn't exactly true unless you consider a pelvis that is incompatible with birth to be a neutral feature wrt to health. It is unlikely to kill you in an industrialized nation in the past 100 years, but outside of that environment or timeframe it is quite deadly for a woman to get pregnant while having a pelvis with an outlet like a male's. The baby always dies in such a situation and if the mother isn't killed she is disabled for life. While anthropologists use a lot of different measures to determine the sex of skeletal remains, the pelvis remains an extremely reliable indicator for exactly that reason. Even with other causes of maternal death causing a disproportionate number of humans to die vs other primates while giving birth, the female pelvis works well enough to facilitate birth for species continuation without preventing walking upright, which is also advantageous to the species.

fwiw gorillas are one of the most sexually dimorphic of ape species, we are closer to chimps or bonobos, which are still dimorphic. The parts of the brain that determine a stranger's sex are much older than apes and are generally reliable measures of a stranger's sex, especially if you are talking about seeing a person face to face rather than judging off of pictures. I don't think trooning would have gotten popular without the internet partially because it is so obvious in real life. Social scientists have studied different animals and young children in their ability to determine the sex of people and it does not seem to be a difficult task. I wonder if autistic people have a deficit in that specific task? It is social in nature....

"just enough conflicting evidence"= "there's no standard of care at all"

These surgeons don't even have a standard for healing after a surgery. Imagine if every heart surgeon had a different way of cracking the ribs and entered the chest from a different place on the body and none agreed on what you should do to recover after a transplant.

to be fair though, is installing an artificial dick socket the same thing as repairing or transplanting a functional organ? Some radical feminist once said something like "what SRS creates is as much a new asshole as it is a 'new vagina', since it doesn't perform any of the functions of the organ it is named after and only exists so a man can fuck it".

 

[Aunt Carol]

to be fair though, is installing an artificial dick socket the same thing as repairing or transplanting a functional organ? Some radical feminist once said something like "what SRS creates is as much a new asshole as it is a 'new vagina', since it doesn't perform any of the functions of the organ it is named after and only exists so a man can fuck it".

Since they've got the penis-sparing "futa" operation going now, I wonder how long before someone will just fly to Thailand with a diagram on a napkin and have multiple neovaginas installed.

It's a flesh pocket for someone to fuck; why not have an extra one or two on, say, the abdomen? It'd probably heal better, not being in the crotch, and it solves the age-old gangbang problem of "but where is everyone going to stand?"

 

[Crunchy Leaf]

This isn't exactly true unless you consider a pelvis that is incompatible with birth to be a neutral feature wrt to health. It is unlikely to kill you in an industrialized nation in the past 100 years, but outside of that environment or timeframe it is quite deadly for a woman to get pregnant while having a pelvis with an outlet like a male's. The baby always dies in such a situation and if the mother isn't killed she is disabled for life. While anthropologists use a lot of different measures to determine the sex of skeletal remains, the pelvis remains an extremely reliable indicator for exactly that reason. Even with other causes of maternal death causing a disproportionate number of humans to die vs other primates while giving birth, the female pelvis works well enough to facilitate birth for species continuation without preventing walking upright, which is also advantageous to the species.

fwiw gorillas are one of the most sexually dimorphic of ape species, we are closer to chimps or bonobos, which are still dimorphic. The parts of the brain that determine a stranger's sex are much older than apes and are generally reliable measures of a stranger's sex, especially if you are talking about seeing a person face to face rather than judging off of pictures. I don't think trooning would have gotten popular without the internet partially because it is so obvious in real life. Social scientists have studied different animals and young children in their ability to determine the sex of people and it does not seem to be a difficult task. I wonder if autistic people have a deficit in that specific task? It is social in nature....


to be fair though, is installing an artificial dick socket the same thing as repairing or transplanting a functional organ? Some radical feminist once said something like "what SRS creates is as much a new asshole as it is a 'new vagina', since it doesn't perform any of the functions of the organ it is named after and only exists so a man can fuck it".

Men can find anal sexually pleasurable, whereas that’s rarely the case with SRS. Some random YouTube MTF says he still does anal instead.

 

[keyboredsm4shthe2nd]

This isn't exactly true unless you consider a pelvis that is incompatible with birth to be a neutral feature wrt to health. It is unlikely to kill you in an industrialized nation in the past 100 years, but outside of that environment or timeframe it is quite deadly for a woman to get pregnant while having a pelvis with an outlet like a male's. The baby always dies in such a situation and if the mother isn't killed she is disabled for life. While anthropologists use a lot of different measures to determine the sex of skeletal remains, the pelvis remains an extremely reliable indicator for exactly that reason. Even with other causes of maternal death causing a disproportionate number of humans to die vs other primates while giving birth, the female pelvis works well enough to facilitate birth for species continuation without preventing walking upright, which is also advantageous to the species.

fwiw gorillas are one of the most sexually dimorphic of ape species, we are closer to chimps or bonobos, which are still dimorphic. The parts of the brain that determine a stranger's sex are much older than apes and are generally reliable measures of a stranger's sex, especially if you are talking about seeing a person face to face rather than judging off of pictures. I don't think trooning would have gotten popular without the internet partially because it is so obvious in real life. Social scientists have studied different animals and young children in their ability to determine the sex of people and it does not seem to be a difficult task. I wonder if autistic people have a deficit in that specific task? It is social in nature....


to be fair though, is installing an artificial dick socket the same thing as repairing or transplanting a functional organ? Some radical feminist once said something like "what SRS creates is as much a new asshole as it is a 'new vagina', since it doesn't perform any of the functions of the organ it is named after and only exists so a man can fuck it".

tbh it's almost a new asshole considering they can be made out of colon lining now, bacteria included and even if not, has like a 50% chance of ending up shitting through it.

 

[OttoWest]

Since they've got the penis-sparing "futa" operation going now, I wonder how long before someone will just fly to Thailand with a diagram on a napkin and have multiple neovaginas installed.

I think we’ll see multiple tits— like 3 or 4 boobs implanted— even sooner.

 

[DoNotReadTheFinePrint]

After reading through this threat I can't help but wonder how those TIFs think they can pass if they get the phalloplasty. They look like car crash or burn victims. The way some of those arm graft sites look is very horrendous and very difficult to cover up during summer.

Since they've got the penis-sparing "futa" operation going now, I wonder how long before someone will just fly to Thailand with a diagram on a napkin and have multiple neovaginas installed.

It's a flesh pocket for someone to fuck; why not have an extra one or two on, say, the abdomen? It'd probably heal better, not being in the crotch, and it solves the age-old gangbang problem of "but where is everyone going to stand?"

I actually once read a book in which there were a few organ harvesters one of which had a vagina implanted in his hand and wanted the protagonist's in his other hand. He was aptly named the Pussyhand. Whenever I read about those neo-vags I have to think about that guy. One of the guy's colleagues was into implanting the breasts of their female victims.

 

[Falling Star]

Abdominal phalloplasty from Kingmikey20:

Spoiler: NSFW

Helpful diagram:


Anyway, she immediately has problems post-surgery:



She later posts "dick" pics but interestingly deleted her explanation comment:



Another update:



Most recent update... everything is terrible:

RFF phalloplasty from Awolfscourage:

Spoiler: NSFW

Video of her popping an abscess: https://www.reddit.com/r/popping/comments/l52l2w/developed_a_small_abscess_from_a_suture_removed/

Related bonus: https://www.reddit.com/r/phallo/comments/mvu2b3/the_standard_of_an_attractive_peniscis_looking/
FTMs trying to convince themselves that their neopenises are totally normal-looking. This is a direct mirror of the MTFs who love bringing up the fact that vulvas often vary in appearance, therefore their neovulvas are heckin' cute and valid too.

Side-note, but it feels much easier to find FTMs posting bottom surgery pics these days (compared to MTFs). I'd be interested if anyone has data on this. MTFs used to pursue bottom surgery at way higher rates than FTMs, but I feel like that might be changing?
Could just be my imagination or other factors though.

 

[keyboredsm4shthe2nd]

I think we’ll see multiple tits— like 3 or 4 boobs implanted— even sooner.

There are definitely troons with "hucow" fetishes. Goddamn this is disgusting.

Abdominal phalloplasty from Kingmikey20:

Spoiler: NSFW

Helpful diagram:
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Anyway, she immediately has problems post-surgery:
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She later posts "dick" pics but interestingly deleted her explanation comment:
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Most recent update... everything is terrible:
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RFF phalloplasty from Awolfscourage:

Spoiler: NSFW

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Video of her popping an abscess: https://www.reddit.com/r/popping/comments/l52l2w/developed_a_small_abscess_from_a_suture_removed/

Related bonus: https://www.reddit.com/r/phallo/comments/mvu2b3/the_standard_of_an_attractive_peniscis_looking/
FTMs trying to convince themselves that their neopenises are totally normal-looking. This is a direct mirror of the MTFs who love bringing up the fact that vulvas often vary in appearance, therefore their neovulvas are heckin' cute and valid too.

Side-note, but it feels much easier to find FTMs posting bottom surgery pics these days (compared to MTFs). I'd be interested if anyone has data on this. MTFs used to pursue bottom surgery at way higher rates than FTMs, but I feel like that might be changing?
Could just be my imagination or other factors though.

Fucking Christ that first one. "Despite looking like a goddamn science experiment monster, having extreme depression, and finding out this wasn't a cure for my mental illness, I DON'T REGRET ANYTHING AND DEFINITELY WOULDN'T CHANGE ANYTHING IF I COULD GO BACK IN TIME"
THEYWILL NEVERLEARN
You know what? Fuck you. Enjoy your disgusting fetid abdominal abomination and fuck you. You chose this, you fucking live with it. You can lie to the internet all you like but deep in your brain you can't fucking fool yourself into thinking this was anything more than a disastrous regret. I anticipate your 41%.

 

[chroma]

I actually once read a book in which there were a few organ harvesters one of which had a vagina implanted in his hand and wanted the protagonist's in his other hand. He was aptly named the Pussyhand. Whenever I read about those neo-vags I have to think about that guy. One of the guy's colleagues was into implanting the breasts of their female victims.

You’re thinking of the Bandersnatch Group assassins in Mardock Scramble. The group’s leader is named Welldone the Pussyhand. (Yeah it’s a weird manga.)

 

[ClownBrew]

So you guys already know I'm a lolbert about these matters and I'm not out to slam their choices.

That said...does Gibes ever realize just how macho all the "depth"-measuring talk actually sounds? Even clinical autists are aware that women aren't in the habit of swaggering around comparing "depths" like so many jocks in a locker room.

Was Gibes dropped as an infant?

 

[Sinner's Sandwich]

does Gibes ever realize

You can stop right here. The answer is and will always be: Awww hell naww!

 

[keyboredsm4shthe2nd]

Was Gibes dropped as an infant?

That would be the least of his problems.