Star Trek - Space: The Final Frontier

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William Murderface said:
One episode of VOY that I like is where Torres revives a robot not realizing that the robot was designed to fight a war against another planet and when that planet's robots shows up she learns the races wanted peace with each other but the war robots simply killed off both races so they could continue fighting their war and the robot she revived wants her to build new robots so his side can win. The episode was called Prototype.
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They hadn't reached their preset kill limit.

 
UnKillFill said:
Yeah, I remember that one. It had Chuck from Better Call Saul in it.
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Rene used to joke that Star Trek saved his legacy because they won’t put Benson at the top of his obit. I'm glad that Michael McKean landed a late-career role so he won’t go out as Lenny from Lenny & the Squigtones.


McKean's been grinding since I was a kid, not the "ha-ha" type of comedian, but one of those journeymen you start noticing once you’ve seen too many shows.
 
Michael McKean is a great actor and musician. It's a shame his talents were wasted playing Space Clown. Also he absolutely killed it on Celebrity Jeopardy.
 
Harry Kim is the O'Brien of Voyager. IE that character that get the most abuse. In fact both O'Brien and Harry Kim are dead and the character is actually clones of them. (O'Brien is from the future and Kim is from a quantum clone of Voyager) They both get infected by horrible diseases. They both get put into prison.

They really loved shitting on poor Harry almost as much as they loved putting O'Brien through fucking harrowing situations.
 
California Newt said:
> the one where Seven becomes a conspiracy theorist and thinks the Caretaker incident was an inside job
> the one where Janeway gets an AI boyfriend
> the one in the void
> the one where alien spies hack into the EMH's daydreams and think they're real
> the one where they go to Icheb's planet, which is next to a Borg transwarp conduit
> the one with the planet where time goes fast
> the one where that one Hirogen figures out their race's "predator" premise has stagnated their culture and tries to assuage their hunter instincts with holodeck LARPing, but a Nazi hologram convinces his second in command to mutiny
> the one where they find Tuvok's anti-Maquis contingency simulation and start re-writing it for fun
> the one with the EMH's novel
> the one where Neelix finds the other Talaxians
> the one where every part of the ship is at a different season of the show
> the one with the Klingon Mayflower
> the Barklay episode where he simulates himself on Voyager

Yeah I'm sorry, but Voyager is premium gold-plated gigakino. It's just a constant gradual progression upwards, with some curveballs thrown in.

Edit: how could I forget:

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Rabo 2: Electric Boogaloo said:
Harry Kim is the O'Brien of Voyager. IE that character that get the most abuse. In fact both O'Brien and Harry Kim are dead and the character is actually clones of them. (O'Brien is from the future and Kim is from a quantum clone of Voyager) They both get infected by horrible diseases. They both get put into prison.

They really loved shitting on poor Harry almost as much as they loved putting O'Brien through fucking harrowing situations.
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Say what you want about O'Brien, but he at least has a wife and two kids to come home to.

The one time Harry got laid, he got space herpes
 
O'Brien has family, friends and a whole lot of people respect him. Kim is just there, and it wouldn't matter much if he got killed.
 
Rabo 2: Electric Boogaloo said:
Harry Kim is the O'Brien of Voyager. IE that character that get the most abuse.
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Curzon Dax-sama said:
O'Brien has family, friends and a whole lot of people respect him. Kim is just there, and it wouldn't matter much if he got killed.
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It’s insane how Harry’s entire social circle is just Tom Paris. That’s it. It’s very Geordi LaForge-coded, except at least Geordi was the boss in Engineering.

I thought they would do a whole slow-burn thing with B’Elanna, nope. Episode two and they left him with Tom and a clarinet.
 
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Captain Syrup said:
It’s insane how Harry’s entire social circle is just Tom Paris. That’s it. It’s very Geordi LaForge-coded, except at least Geordi was the boss in Engineering.

I thought they would do a whole slow-burn thing with B’Elanna, nope. Episode two and they left him with Tom and a clarinet.
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Alternatively, they could have made Harry friends with Seven, since he would be able to relate to her being new and not used to stepping outside of her comfort zone.

Instead, we got...
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Rabo 2: Electric Boogaloo said:
While I still consider Voyager to be lesser than TNG and DS9 by a margin it still has a soft place in my heart and it looks and feels like Star Trek which can't be said of anything else that came out after the series.

I suppose it's kinda like those people who defend the Star Wars prequels, because so much shit that considerably worse that came out after.

I wanna feel bad for Jen Lien but, I just did not like Kes and I just want her gone which I imagine her getting booted off the shot had some consequences on her life so who knows where she'd be if she hadn't be jettisoned out the nearest airlock for Seven of Nine.
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I loved DS9 the first time I watched it. Every re-watch I like it less and less. The first time I watched Voyager I called it quits at like season 3, then re-watched it a couple years later and it grew on me. I'm almost done with my third play-through of Voyager and I may like it better than DS9 at this point.
 
Rabo 2: Electric Boogaloo said:
They really loved shitting on poor Harry almost as much as they loved putting O'Brien through fucking harrowing situations.
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The cruelest moment is in the episode where when Tom gets promoted back to Lieutenant after joining space PETA.

Tom goes back to the con and sits on the case containing his Lieutenant pips. Then Harry says pathetically "I didn't notice a little box on my chair.."
PFM said:
I loved DS9 the first time I watched it. Every re-watch I like it less and less.
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Same. Last rewatch was my 3rd and it was a struggle to finish after the occupation arc especially.
Fatsuit Shinji said:
Does this applied to black widow type cannibal women who eats the men after they had sex with them?
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Yes.
 
Drag-on Knight 91873 said:
"When a beautiful woman asks if you want to have sex, you say YES!"

-Peter Venkman
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ditto said:
Same. Last rewatch was my 3rd and it was a struggle to finish after the occupation arc especially.
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For me, the pain starts with the election of the new Kai in those first couple seasons. But everyone else complains about the Pah Wraiths and the lounge singer hologram in the final stretch.

Maybe it’s because we forgive the awkward baby steps. But when a show is past its prime, you start feeling embarrassed for everyone involved.

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Melora.
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I'm trying to empathize with this character, but she has the biggest chip on her shoulder. Perhaps the one Federation Station that isn't wheelchair accessible (because the Cardies that built Terok Nor didn't give a shit about OSHA) is a bad place to send an officer who needs special accommodations to get around. I feel like something bad happening is inevitable.

Help I've fallen and I can't get up!
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Like that...

"What kind of an architect would deliberately design a raised rim at the entrance to every door?" Indeed...

This alien design is retarded.
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I wonder if he's meant to be related to the similarly retarded Tak Tak from Voyager.
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I've said it before and I'll say it again, this Klingon restaurant guy deserved his own spinoff, or at very least his own episode.

This episode was apparently trying to say... something... about disabled people. I heard somewhere that it was meant to be a "response" to the TNG episode where Worf gets crippled by a plastic barrel and then tries to fucking kill himself, but I'm not entirely sure how. If anything, it feels more like a response to Geordi and all the times in the show that they offered him a chance to "fix" his blindness and he refused. (Before he actually went through with it in the movies.)
 
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