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[Dragged Into Sunlight]

ATTENTION KIWI FARMS POSTERS:
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The Temporal Cold War was the worst story arc of any series of Star Trek. If you think it's better than the Bajoran politics or Maquis arcs I will fill this thread with Enestrazine gas. You have seven minutes to comply.

I enjoyed Enterprise up until S3 when it all of a sudden got dark and serious and obsessed with the temporal war which all just bored me. Give me my culture of the week with an early starfleet trying to figure things out. That is much more compelling than a convoluted time travel war.


Also, why the hell did DS9 introduce Thomas Riker for one episode then immediately have him thrown in prison for life? What was the point? Would they break him out later and then just forgot to write that into the story?

 

[Welf Welf]

Also, why the hell did DS9 introduce Thomas Riker for one episode then immediately have him thrown in prison for life? What was the point? Would they break him out later and then just forgot to write that into the story?

He's lost in the Sector of Abandoned Plot Threads, along with the parasites from Conspiracy, warp engines degrading subspace, all humanoid species being seeded from a single progenitor race, Ensign Ro, the Changelings who were already on Earth, and so on.

 

[Mussolini’s Merkin]

It wasn't a good movie, but it was interesting. I went to a screening of it a year or two ago and had a blast. The Sci-Fi Channel miniseries is supposed to be better, I remember watching it premiere and enjoying it quite a bit, but I can't remember anything about it.

Interesting is definitely the kindest thing to call it. I adore Lynch but Dune was absolutely the wrong movie for him to make unless the studio was willing to let him do entirely him own thing.

I enjoyed Enterprise up until S3 when it all of a sudden got dark and serious and obsessed with the temporal war which all just bored me. Give me my culture of the week with an early starfleet trying to figure things out. That is much more compelling than a convoluted time travel war.

That’s interesting as season 3 was where things started picking up for me. Archer making tough decisions, some stakes to the plot, all worked a lot better for me than the first two seasons. Also felt like they had a better grasp on what they wanted for the characters.

 

[Hey Johnny Bravo]

All I know is I forgot how good The Orville is and my wife loves it. The choice to replace Alara with Talla was weird. Talla is supposed to be older and more experienced, but she behaves more hotheaded and naive than Alara did. Also, Jessica Szohr has such a strong Wisconsin accent that I forget she's supposed to be an alien.

 

[Sayer of the N-Word]

The Temporal Cold War was the worst story arc of any series of Star Trek. If you think it's better than the Bajoran politics or Maquis arcs I will fill this thread with Enestrazine gas.

WOW. That's a very bold post considering how remarkably bad those are, especially the Maquis stories. I don't know if I can cosign this.

 

[Hey Johnny Bravo]

WOW. That's a very bold post considering how remarkably bad those are, especially the Maquis stories. I don't know if I can cosign this.

The Bajoran politics and Maquis stories were way better than the Temporal Cold War. When one of the Xindi turned out to be fucking manatees, I nearly popped a blood vessel from laughing.

 

[Chilson]

All I know is I forgot how good The Orville is and my wife loves it. The choice to replace Alara with Talla was weird. Talla is supposed to be older and more experienced, but she behaves more hotheaded and naive than Alara did. Also, Jessica Szohr has such a strong Wisconsin accent that I forget she's supposed to be an alien.

It was weird because Seth was dating Alara's actress, Halston sage, at the time and then they broke up around the time she left the show.

Which was 100% the reason she left the show so abruptly, but they seemed to have handled it well enough to not rile up the media and have her come back as a guest star.

 

[Captain Syrup]

Also, why the hell did DS9 introduce Thomas Riker for one episode then immediately have him thrown in prison for life?

They keep trying to make the Maquis seem cool but every leader disappears. Michelle Forbes just dips, Bernie Casey gets killed offscreen like somebody forgot to feed him, and nobody really cared about Thomas Riker. At last, we got the guy from a fantasy movie you rented once.



The TNG cameos were so scattershot, too. For every Worf showing up, you get Geordi La Forge killing the whole VOY crew because time travel is illegal or something.



And don’t forget the Ferengi idiots pretending to be gods, only to get out-conned by Neelix. Neelix is supposed to be a Klingon nerd, and now suddenly he’s doing Ferengi impressions.

 

[Cactuar King]

It was weird because Seth was dating Alara's actress, Halston sage, at the time and then they broke up around the time she left the show.

Which was 100% the reason she left the show so abruptly, but they seemed to have handled it well enough to not rile up the media and have her come back as a guest star.

Damn shame, I liked Alara more than Talla.

 

[Hey Johnny Bravo]

It was weird because Seth was dating Alara's actress, Halston sage, at the time and then they broke up around the time she left the show.

Which was 100% the reason she left the show so abruptly, but they seemed to have handled it well enough to not rile up the media and have her come back as a guest star.

That's the rumor, but I've never seen any hard evidence they even dated.

 

[Mr. Racewar1488]

WOW. That's a very bold post considering how remarkably bad those are, especially the Maquis stories. I don't know if I can cosign this.

Send this one to ore processing until his opinion improves. I'm sure in time you'll see how wrong you are and how banging Kira's mom made me the savior of Bajor.

 

[Drag-on Knight 91873]

The Bajoran politics and Maquis stories were way better than the Temporal Cold War. When one of the Xindi turned out to be fucking manatees, I nearly popped a blood vessel from laughing.

Well, you used the word better, which is true. I wouldn't infer that the Bajoran plots were good though; they were just acceptable. The Maquis stuff is consistently good on its own merits as it really is them absorbing the consequences of the Federation's decisions. Like, you'd think Journey's End would work out because that's how TNG plots tend to end, but then we see them again and no, they went right back to war about 6 months later.

 

[Miller]

It was weird because Seth was dating Alara's actress, Halston sage, at the time and then they broke up around the time she left the show.

Which was 100% the reason she left the show so abruptly, but they seemed to have handled it well enough to not rile up the media and have her come back as a guest star.

It was mostly a scheduling issue because at the time she joined the cast of a new show for Netflix.

 

[Rabo 2: Electric Boogaloo]

A bit late to the Dune dogpile but I do have to share how I basically discovered Star Wars, Star Trek and Dune pretty much all over the course of one summer vacation where I was watching all the VHS tapes my dad had taped off our premium movie station years before. I watched Star Trek I ~ IV, Star Wars Ep IV - VI and tried to watch dune. I got as far as that bit where Baron Harkonen drains that guy and I was fucking done. Nope. Not watching that!

 

[Captain Syrup]

A bit late to the Dune dogpile but I do have to share how I basically discovered Star Wars, Star Trek and Dune pretty much all over the course of one summer vacation where I was watching all the VHS tapes my dad had taped off our premium movie station years before. I watched Star Trek I ~ IV, Star Wars Ep IV - VI and tried to watch dune. I got as far as that bit where Baron Harkonen drains that guy and I was fucking done. Nope. Not watching that!

He makes Frank Booth seem sober as a judge.



I like the Lynch Harkonnens, but they’re basically useless as characters. Jack Nance has no idea what he's supposed to be doing on screen. I don’t think Lynch fully read the book either, so he turns everything into caricatures.

 

[Brain Problems]

I don’t think Lynch fully read the book either

You just forgot the part of the book where Vladimir parades around a rat tied to a cat as a symbol of his ultimate evil. Reading comprehension, much?

 

[NSA]

At least David Lynch knows how to cast hot women properly.

 

[Mussolini’s Merkin]

Just finished watching Menage a Troi and I both love and hate this episode.
It's great because it's the first time that Lwaxana really gets an episode to herself and I just adore her character. She's fantastic in TNG and it was so lovely to see her show up in DS9 where I feel they really expanded on her character.
Just a really fun episode with Lwaxana and Deanna bouncing off the Ferengi, it's great.
Then it all ends with this hideous Wesley subplot where the ghost of Roddenberry was clearly blowing himself. Wesley is so much better in season 3 than he was in 1 and 2 but I still absolutely hate him.

 

[Hey Johnny Bravo]

Just finished watching Menage a Troi and I both love and hate this episode.
It's great because it's the first time that Lwaxana really gets an episode to herself and I just adore her character. She's fantastic in TNG and it was so lovely to see her show up in DS9 where I feel they really expanded on her character.
Just a really fun episode with Lwaxana and Deanna bouncing off the Ferengi, it's great.
Then it all ends with this hideous Wesley subplot where the ghost of Roddenberry was clearly blowing himself. Wesley is so much better in season 3 than he was in 1 and 2 but I still absolutely hate him.

Marina Sirtis is more useful in The Orville than the entirety of Star Trek. I still can't believe she got raped in Star Trek twice. Sirtis is such a good actress and she was wasted on TNG.

 

[Mr. Racewar1488]

Marina Sirtis is more useful in The Orville than the entirety of Star Trek. I still can't believe she got raped in Star Trek twice. Sirtis is such a good actress and she was wasted on TNG.

Russian scientist Troy on SG1 is better than TNG Troy. She does things and is competent at repairing a submarine.

Don't get me started on why a Russian scientist would be wearing an East German field coat.