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Isn't Titan like the fastest ship in the fleet, at least a throw away line that the other ship was as fast as they are to explain why they'd hit the nebula instead of just flat out running or maybe pop into the nebula to lose them and the immediately run. But I'm afraid they're going to do nebula cat and mouse... again... again... again.
Maybe I'm just not getting it... which wouldn't be the first time.
 
I'd be far more suspicious of him because of his ties to both Morn of Luria and Joe of Earth.
I think its pretty funny that this supposedly dangerous criminal is only recorded as having ties to petty thiefs and shady bartenders, we are reaching critical levels of shameless fanwank thats its starting to eclipse all logic and believably in this show.
(Not that there was much to begin with)

Anyway I just finished the latest episode and it was just as bad as the last. Despite ditching most of the shitty original characters from the last seasons the ones that stuck around and the new ones are just awful and painful to watch. Raffi and Jack crusher particularly make me want to blow my brains out while they're on screen. The actor they have for Jack is just terrible and his overly sarcastic dialogue makes him sound straight out of a CW teen drama, doesn't help that the "plot" of this episode is banking on you having some kind of affection for him. I appreciate that they attempt to set up some kind of moral dilemma, even if its one we've seen 50 times already and they don't even have an interesting spin on it. I guess the writers don't understand that the thing people like about moral quandaries is that there are multiple valid solutions to them and its not interesting if its only presented as "bad guy stops the good guy from doing the right thing". Hell, they don't even have the good grace to keep it contained to a single episode because how else are they going to get the Borg drones coming back for more.

The Raffi subplot in this one was absolutely painful, as much as I got a chuckle out of Sneed its laughable to here her say that name in what is supposed to be a dramatic moment. I cannot wait to see what bullshit explanation they have as to why Worf has selected this singular druggie to be the one to blow the lid of a dangerous top secret Starfleet conspiracy, surely there was someone more competent he could go to for this? None of this shit matters anyway and is just a pointlessly extended setup to bring Worf into the story. It's almost impressive they in 50 minutes they manage to not move the narrative ahead at all. The last 2 episodes together maybe have 10 minutes of content in them.

Lastly is is just me or is the CGI in this season noticeably worse than previous one? The ship debris look like a PS3 cutscene and the weapon effects looked like shit. The colors for the space scenes as well are incredibly garish and oversaturated, ironic considering what the rest of the show looks like.

Overall this one is a 3/10 from me, slightly better than the last but still awful.
 
So how long did it take everyone to get into Voyager? Its the last old trek on my list to watch and its the one I'm having the hardest time getting into. Is it another case of the first season being the weakest? Does it get better after season 1?
 
So how long did it take everyone to get into Voyager? Its the last old trek on my list to watch and its the one I'm having the hardest time getting into. Is it another case of the first season being the weakest? Does it get better after season 1?
It gets better in S4 when they add Seven to the crew but it never quite lives up to the previous shows so don't hold your breath.
 
So how long did it take everyone to get into Voyager? Its the last old trek on my list to watch and its the one I'm having the hardest time getting into. Is it another case of the first season being the weakest? Does it get better after season 1?
It gets better after season 1 but not much better. The addition of Seven is a step in the right direction and there's the occasional flash of brilliance (Captain Proton) but it never really rises above just being That Star Trek Show.
 
So how long did it take everyone to get into Voyager? Its the last old trek on my list to watch and its the one I'm having the hardest time getting into. Is it another case of the first season being the weakest? Does it get better after season 1?

I love Voyager because I watched it on TV during it's first run, so I remember waiting a week for each new episode, but for binge watching it's absolutely terrible, especially after watching TNG and DS9. I find that Voyager is hit and miss for it's entirety - when you have a good episode they can be incredible, but when you have a bad one, they're absolutely heinous. I'd say grab a drink and power through just so you can say that even the most laughably bad episode of Voyager is better than anything NuTrek managed to shit out, but as a fan I tried myself, realised my brain had only retained knowledge of the good episodes (and the terrible one where Paris and Janeway turn into lizards from going too fast because it's hilarious) and gave up.

I was reminded by a friend that the Picard show exists so I got drunk yesterday and fired up Season 3 of TNG. My girlfriend commented on how the show is people just talking to each other, and that violence really is the last resort and it almost never happens. It really made me think about the night-and-day difference between the Treks when someone who has never seen an episode of Star Trek (except Discovery when it first came out) can say "If this was out recently everyone would be violent and sad".
 
So I like how this Jack Crusher is Beverly and Picard's love child but is named after Beverly's first husband.

Picard's best friend or not, that's some major cuckage I think.
In one of the novels he dies in every universe except one. And in that one Picard bangs his wife. Ouch
 
Watched Unification Part 1 today, as my quest through TNG continues. Opened with a dedication to Roddenberry. Everyone got into some Romulan costumes, and apparently they're bad cooks who eat soup in bars. Also, everyone is so paranoid and suspicious that being obviously out of place or caught lying just means you're probably with the secret police. Had a thought, do people know if you're using the universal translator? Like if I'm speaking Spanish and he's speaking Chinese, is there any information about that relayed to our brains? Things like accents don't appear to render as they'd like, since Data and Picard are immediately outed as speaking strangely. Was sad to see Sarek go, Stewart played that scene well. They oversold the live long and prosper scene, but he had a couple of good moments. Also, why are Vulcan costumes so fucking ugly? Logical my ass they just wear terrycloth and giant glass beads. What logical fashion designer is making these choices?

Is being a human fetishist a thing with Vulcan men? I dunno, Sarek went back to that well. Nice to see Spock again, wonder how they got Nimoy to agree to it.
 
Is being a human fetishist a thing with Vulcan men? I dunno, Sarek went back to that well. Nice to see Spock again, wonder how they got Nimoy to agree to it.
I think that in general Vulcans just enjoy the company of humans because they they tend to be very expressive and emotional and it hasn't destroyed their entire society yet. They would never admit this of course.
 
I think that in general Vulcans just enjoy the company of humans because they they tend to be very expressive and emotional and it hasn't destroyed their entire society yet. They would never admit this of course.
I actually quite like the Vulcan-human dynamic (second to the Klingon-human dynamic) since unexpressed pleasure seems to be a motive behind Vulcan psychology. The neat thing about Sarek's 'dementia' was that it was portrayed as him just being consumed by a psychosomatic eruption of what he had buried deep inside, his pleasures and his pains, until he's just writhing in the final space acid trip that Vulcans consider to be the same as Alzheimer's. It's a very rich thing to imagine.

Klingons get to be this weird aggro-tistic thing that feels fleshed out and interesting in spite of muh warrior culture. Characters like Worf who are autists to the extreme, Christopher Plummer's guy in The Undiscovered Country, the weird horny Klingon sisters, Gowron, they've got a real deep vein of interesting weirdos united by their love of knives, hate for nerds, and insistence on blood feuds. It's a great fictional culture, and their interactions and constant judging of humans is usually played pretty interestingly. The actors who don the rubber foreheads seem to get it. But humans kind of already know what to expect from the Ferengi, after all we have our own goblins, and we've got crafty scheming bastards just like Romulans also. They always seem more cartoonish than the Ferengi just because they're paranoid and villainous. I haven't seen much of the Cardassians outside of some Gul Dukat memes and one or two episodes they show up in, so I'm pretty excited to get into DS9 and see the kind of shit they get up to.
 
I haven't seen much of the Cardassians outside of some Gul Dukat memes and one or two episodes they show up in, so I'm pretty excited to get into DS9 and see the kind of shit they get up to.
The Cardassians are turbo autists when it comes to internal security, they're even more paranoid than the Romulans. Other than that, Damar is the quintessential drunken genius, while Dukat is basically space-Mussolini in terms of bombastic personality. Garak reminds of the plumber-character in Brazil: initially, you wouldn't expect him to be a quasi-terrorist fighting for the good guys.
 
do people know if you're using the universal translator?
I think the universal translator is one of those things used to handwave away the issue of why everyone in the universe speaks English and the writers don't even think about it unless the plot specifically calls for it. The universal translator in TOS supposedly works through the communicator and the crew can understand everyone even when their communicators are taken away.
 
The Romulans -and to a certain degree the Cardassians- are the most "human" of the bunch, imo. The Vulcans are what would happen if humans repress all of their feelings, while Klingons the case if we let them all run free. I guess the Ferengi are there to show what would have happened if humans went full Capitalist (which ain't that bad as for how DS9 portrays them).

Humans don't fully repress our feelings, that's something Starfleet demands of their people because they're the military. It's funny that Worf thinks this is expected of him as a Klingon rather than as an officer only... and then he straight up murdered the man who killed his mate and tried to justify it as "muh culture".

It's also funny that it's little implied that Vulcans are fascinated by how humans can show emotions and still we managed to not fuck up and reached the stars when they couldn't make it. But if you think about it, Romulans and Klingons did the same and they think shit of humans or simply dont' mind us.
 
Jesus Gates you're starting to look like a S'ona with all that plastic surgery.
I think the first time I saw her I was really taken aback because I had just rewatched TNG so it was genuinely shocking seeing how time and cosmetic surgery had taken its toll but I still think she looks leagues better than Sirtis who in my opinion, looks downright ghoulish.

Why why WHY do actresses do this to themselves? Would some casting call really go tits up if they saw her and she had wrinkles? You'd think the loss in facial expression/ability to emote would more than cripple any beauty advantage you get but it seems like all these female actors that have had a ton of work done just transition into the "stoic matriarch with wild eyes" role to avoid having to actually act. See Gillian Anderson, Nicole Kidman etc.
 
I actually quite like the Vulcan-human dynamic (second to the Klingon-human dynamic) since unexpressed pleasure seems to be a motive behind Vulcan psychology. The neat thing about Sarek's 'dementia' was that it was portrayed as him just being consumed by a psychosomatic eruption of what he had buried deep inside, his pleasures and his pains, until he's just writhing in the final space acid trip that Vulcans consider to be the same as Alzheimer's. It's a very rich thing to imagine.

Klingons get to be this weird aggro-tistic thing that feels fleshed out and interesting in spite of muh warrior culture. Characters like Worf who are autists to the extreme, Christopher Plummer's guy in The Undiscovered Country, the weird horny Klingon sisters, Gowron, they've got a real deep vein of interesting weirdos united by their love of knives, hate for nerds, and insistence on blood feuds. It's a great fictional culture, and their interactions and constant judging of humans is usually played pretty interestingly. The actors who don the rubber foreheads seem to get it. But humans kind of already know what to expect from the Ferengi, after all we have our own goblins, and we've got crafty scheming bastards just like Romulans also. They always seem more cartoonish than the Ferengi just because they're paranoid and villainous. I haven't seen much of the Cardassians outside of some Gul Dukat memes and one or two episodes they show up in, so I'm pretty excited to get into DS9 and see the kind of shit they get up to.
What's great about ds9 is that it doesn't give up the Klingon storyline. They expand upon it to such a degree that I would argue it does an incredible job defining who they are culturally and their complicated relationship with the feds. Tng gave a good taste but ds9 is a buffet table.

Romulus get a lot less focus but what episodes they do get are pretty good.

Cardies are pure concentrated awesome. Best "bad guy" alien race in all of fiction. They actually act and think in such a way that you can totally understand how they would consider themselves heros as they oppress other races and start wars.
 
What's great about ds9 is that it doesn't give up the Klingon storyline. They expand upon it to such a degree that I would argue it does an incredible job defining who they are culturally and their complicated relationship with the feds. Tng gave a good taste but ds9 is a buffet table.

Romulus get a lot less focus but what episodes they do get are pretty good.

Cardies are pure concentrated awesome. Best "bad guy" alien race in all of fiction. They actually act and think in such a way that you can totally understand how they would consider themselves heros as they oppress other races and start wars.
DS9 Klingons make more sense than TNG Klingons even though it goes against Roddenberry's vision. An indolent warrior class with nothing to do is bound to make trouble for someone else.
 
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