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UnKillShredDur said:
The worst part is she wasn't even a fat ass at the beginning of the show.
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It really boggles the mind how she managed to triple in size, presumably eating the exact same regulation food as the rest of the crew. Unless she was eating like three times more of it than anybody else, which is not a quality I would want in a starfleet officer.
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"Replicator, a dozen Big Macs and a dozen Twinkies and three gallons of Mountain Dew."
UnKillShredDur said:
I do. He reminds me of my grandpa.
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Scotty is basically the patron saint of engineers. He knew what he could do and what he couldn't, and even Kirk would defer to his expertise. He was basically a paragon of competence.
 
AnOminous said:
"Replicator, a dozen Big Macs and a dozen Twinkies and three gallons of Mountain Dew."

Scotty is basically the patron saint of engineers. He knew what he could do and what he couldn't, and even Kirk would defer to his expertise. He was basically a paragon of competence.
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The way I understand it, the replicators don't so much create real food as they rearrange molecules to turn nutrient paste or whatever into something that looks and tastes close to the real thing while being relatively healthy. Numerous characters say that replicated food/booze isn't even close to the real thing, you cant get drunk off synthahol, etc.

One would assume that the only way to massively balloon in size exclusively eating replicator food would be to intentionally gorge yourself far past what the average person would see as reasonable.
 
UnKillShredDur said:
The way I understand it, the replicators don't so much create real food as they rearrange molecules to turn nutrient paste or whatever into something that looks and tastes close to the real thing while being relatively healthy. Numerous characters say that replicated food/booze isn't even close to the real thing, you cant get drunk off synthahol, etc.

One would assume that the only way to massively balloon in size exclusively eating replicator food would be to intentionally gorge yourself far past what the average person would see as reasonable.
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The replicators convert energy to matter, so it would be possible to get fat off replicator food because you're eating pure energy. In terms of taste I could imagine the replicator wouldn't live up to the real thing because it's just a computer, so it lacks a human touch of perfection, sort of like AI art.
 
UnKillShredDur said:
The way I understand it, the replicators don't so much create real food as they rearrange molecules to turn nutrient paste or whatever into something that looks and tastes close to the real thing while being relatively healthy.
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The replicator didn't really exist until TNG, when it was described as converting energy to matter, so it should be able to create identical or nearly identical imitations of "the real thing." I really doubt Picard would settle for Earl Grey that wasn't as good as the real thing. Teafags wouldn't put up with that.

As for synthehol, I thought replicating it was deliberately borked because they didn't want to encourage drunkenness, so alcoholic beverages are one thing it does terribly, which is why people like Quark could gouge people on bootleg space booze. I'd assume that's some kind of programming thing because there would be no technical reason why it couldn't generate proper booze, sort of like there's no technical reason you couldn't use the holodeck to make porn of you with your crewmates (like the gigantic autist perv Barclay did).

TOS had something like this where it wasn't even a primitive replicator, but just nasty food cubes that tasted almost, but not quite, entirely unlike whatever you wanted.

Incidentally, synthehol was the single gayest, lamest thing in all of Star Trek. In every part of the franchise it appears in, everyone hates it. I think the nicest thing anyone said about it was Picard, who said it helped you appreciate the real thing more.

I forget whether there's an actual rule or law or military regulation prohibiting drinking actual alcohol, but if so, it's the most flouted law in the Federation other than maybe the Prime Directive.
 
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AnOminous said:
The replicator didn't really exist until TNG, when it was described as converting energy to matter, so it should be able to create identical or nearly identical imitations of "the real thing." I really doubt Picard would settle for Earl Grey that wasn't as good as the real thing. Teafags wouldn't put up with that.
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In Better off Ted they try to make lab grown meat, only to have it "taste like despair" because they come to realize that exercising and... well "living" as a cow is what gives the meat its flavor.

We'll probably never know for certain during your lifetimes, but I could see something happening with replicators where it can "simulate" the chemical composition of a food but there's tons of "little details" that come from generating the real thing that it can't match so the taste is always a bit different. Kind of like how lab grown diamonds are always "perfect" so the natural ones with flaws are kind of going up in value because of said flaws.
 
AnOminous said:
I forget whether there's an actual rule or law or military regulation prohibiting drinking actual alcohol, but if so, it's the most flouted law in the Federation other than maybe the Prime Directive.
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The only law I can think of is banning Romulan ale, but that was because it was Romulan not because it was ale.

I otherwise don't think such a regulation exists, otherwise Worf wouldn't be able to get as blasted as he has with blood wine so many times.
 
Flexo said:
In Better off Ted they try to make lab grown meat, only to have it "taste like despair" because they come to realize that exercising and... well "living" as a cow is what gives the meat its flavor.
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Still, though, why not just take a perfect steak and make a molecule-by-molecule identical copy of it? That's supposedly what it's supposed to do, and it apparently does tea just fine.
Chilson said:
I otherwise don't think such a regulation exists, otherwise Worf wouldn't be able to get as blasted as he has with blood wine so many times.
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He's Worf though. Who's going to tell him he can't do whatever the fuck he wants?
 
Starfleet ban on alcohol most likely got it's inspiration from U.S. Prohibition and in 1914 when Secretary of the Navy Josephus Daniels issued General Order No. 99, banning liquor aboard Navy vessels. And unlike the repeal of the Prohibition with the 21th Amendment, General Order No. 99 itself was never repealed iirc.

If Picard was a proper teafag, he would've have boiling vessels and real tea in his office and quarters.
 
AnOminous said:
I prefer to believe he insisted on the replicator replicating the perfect cup of Earl Grey every time.
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It's implied in the past scenes in "All Good Things" that Earl Grey Tea wasn't in the ships replicators until he specifically had it added.
 
AnOminous said:
The replicator didn't really exist until TNG, when it was described as converting energy to matter, so it should be able to create identical or nearly identical imitations of "the real thing." I really doubt Picard would settle for Earl Grey that wasn't as good as the real thing. Teafags wouldn't put up with that.

As for synthehol, I thought replicating it was deliberately borked because they didn't want to encourage drunkenness, so alcoholic beverages are one thing it does terribly, which is why people like Quark could gouge people on bootleg space booze. I'd assume that's some kind of programming thing because there would be no technical reason why it couldn't generate proper booze, sort of like there's no technical reason you couldn't use the holodeck to make porn of you with your crewmates (like the gigantic autist perv Barclay did).

TOS had something like this where it wasn't even a primitive replicator, but just nasty food cubes that tasted almost, but not quite, entirely unlike whatever you wanted.

Incidentally, synthehol was the single gayest, lamest thing in all of Star Trek. In every part of the franchise it appears in, everyone hates it. I think the nicest thing anyone said about it was Picard, who said it helped you appreciate the real thing more.

I forget whether there's an actual rule or law or military regulation prohibiting drinking actual alcohol, but if so, it's the most flouted law in the Federation other than maybe the Prime Directive.
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I mean, you can't use the replicator to make poison, which alcohol technically qualifies as. Otherwise, dignitaries would be using the replicator to poison their rivals. Though, apparently Worf does have the security override for the replicator since he was able to make the Irish Amish guy a drink with as much kick as poteen.

 
AnOminous said:
TOS had something like this where it wasn't even a primitive replicator, but just nasty food cubes that tasted almost, but not quite, entirely unlike whatever you wanted.
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A tribble issue resulted in Scotty getting showered in bananas and drumsticks and shit from a malfunctioning food synthesiser that one time in TAS.
That implies they actually have stores of perfectly normal fresh food in TOS, and the machine just crushes it all into colourful cubes (sometimes jello) before they eat it.
 
AnOminous said:
The replicator didn't really exist until TNG
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AnOminous said:
TOS had something like this where it wasn't even a primitive replicator, but just nasty food cubes that tasted almost, but not quite, entirely unlike whatever you wanted.
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They did have "food processors" in TOS: In the tribble episode they had gotten into the machinery and there was a tribble in Kirk's "chicken sandwich and coffee."
 
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