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Sounds more like Bashir's cock was caught in Garak's throat, not his voice.
Star Trek - Space: The Final Frontier
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It's strange how Rene Auberjonois guest appearance in in ENT episode "Oasis" is almost beat for beat the same as DS9 episode "Shadowplay" (great Odo episode btw) with the only difference being the guy who created the holograms having a daughter. I wonder if the writers knew.
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I laughed.
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So, upon discovering it was the season finale, I watched episode 10 of SNW.
This show was honestly enjoyable, it shined the best doing new things, with Spock being passable but the least interesting. Uhura at least had some differences in we are seeing her as a young cadet, but I honestly wanted this show to move away from retreading TOS. These last three episodes have really moved the show the opposite direction, and as it stands I'm apathetic to season 2 and won't watch until I hear about it.
It's a retread of Balance of Terror where Pike is still in charge of the Enterprise and his response results in war with the Romulan Empire. Kirk is there in another ship and with a wholely unimpressive actor. Scotty is impersonated in voice but not seen. The plot is an alternate future Pike comes back in time to send modern Pike into the future to step on TOS's toes and have a memberberries plot so he learns the lesson of not trying to change the future. Episode also ends with Una getting arrested for being a superhuman.
This show was honestly enjoyable, it shined the best doing new things, with Spock being passable but the least interesting. Uhura at least had some differences in we are seeing her as a young cadet, but I honestly wanted this show to move away from retreading TOS. These last three episodes have really moved the show the opposite direction, and as it stands I'm apathetic to season 2 and won't watch until I hear about it.
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Tbf, the time when the literary side of the franchise was the most active was during 2005-2016, when there was nothing on the screen side outside of a Kelvinverse movie every 3-4 years. Same with Doctor Who, which had a fuckton of book tie-ins when that show was off the air, only to cut it right down when it returned.
The same thing happened with Enterprise's "E2" - the episode's original writer complained that they had pretty much retooled it into a rip-off of DS9's "Children of Time", and Berman and Braga basically told him that just being on a different Star Trek show made it different enough as far as they were concerned.
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Watched the S1 TNG episode "Too Short a Season". This the one where the elderly admiral is called to negotiate a hostage release by an old adversary. He takes a drug to make himself young again, at the cost of his own life.
Very much an episode that rightfully belongs in the original series era, like much of the early TNG fare. Not very good, too be honest. Mostly due to the Admiral Jameson character, played by Clayton Rohner.
His makeup at the beginning is almost laughable. He's 85 and looks 115. My father is close to that age and could be his son by comparison. He should have looked at the beginning like he did halfway through his transformation. Instead, by the end, it's comically jarring when you see him as a babyfaced boy.
Speaking of comic, his performance is something else. Apparently he went to the Bugs Bunny school of acting, first in his class. Literally a half dozen times he clenches up, grabbing his side, yelping in pain. The only thing missing is the carrot and him saying "I'm dyin', Doc!". At the end, in his confrontation with Karnas (played with yeoman like effort by veteran character actor Michael Pataki), the scenery chewing goes up to 11. Shaking and sweating and spurting out his lines, I was left chuckling out loud.
Bad episodes like this provide a good contrast when the series found its footing.
Very much an episode that rightfully belongs in the original series era, like much of the early TNG fare. Not very good, too be honest. Mostly due to the Admiral Jameson character, played by Clayton Rohner.
His makeup at the beginning is almost laughable. He's 85 and looks 115. My father is close to that age and could be his son by comparison. He should have looked at the beginning like he did halfway through his transformation. Instead, by the end, it's comically jarring when you see him as a babyfaced boy.
Speaking of comic, his performance is something else. Apparently he went to the Bugs Bunny school of acting, first in his class. Literally a half dozen times he clenches up, grabbing his side, yelping in pain. The only thing missing is the carrot and him saying "I'm dyin', Doc!". At the end, in his confrontation with Karnas (played with yeoman like effort by veteran character actor Michael Pataki), the scenery chewing goes up to 11. Shaking and sweating and spurting out his lines, I was left chuckling out loud.
Bad episodes like this provide a good contrast when the series found its footing.
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McCoy looks better and he's supposed to be older.
I guess we could give him a pass because he was also sick with some muscular disorder. Those things can age you up fast, faster if you're already old.
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For Amerimutts out there, whoever owns the Star Trek novel line monthly puts out ebooks for $0.99. (May be equivalent in other countries, IDK.) Not just Amazon either, pretty much all the big ebook retailers are in on this. The monthly page is here:
https://www.simonandschuster.com/p/star-trek-ebook-deals
A Stitch in Time was up there a few months ago for a dollar. Plus if you read it on your phone, you don't have to show your nerd shame to everyone else riding public transit with you.
https://www.simonandschuster.com/p/star-trek-ebook-deals
A Stitch in Time was up there a few months ago for a dollar. Plus if you read it on your phone, you don't have to show your nerd shame to everyone else riding public transit with you.
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That was apparently the original idea - he was meant to start out as an older but not completely feeble guy, revert to being the same age as his actor, and then go back to being a teenager. But then Roddenberry fucked around with the script to make him start out much older and then throw in additional stages as he got younger, meaning that the make-up team had far too much to do in the time they had.
The episode does have some interesting ideas, with exploring the consequences of prior Federation dealings with the internal affairs of worlds, and how captains might try to find loopholes in the Prime Directive, but grafting the age reversion plot onto it just killed the episode.
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I agree about there being a kernal of a good idea there, in fact I saw the legacy of "A Private Little War" in the revealed backstory. But, because the episode took place almost entirely on the Enterprise, it had almost no impact.
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Every time a franchise just straight up erases its past to make way for a reboot, They always seem to fuck it up.
Officially they do it to make things less "cluttered" but the reality is it never was that cluttered to begin with. They just dont want the hassle of cross checking continuity for an hour.
The rub, is that inevitably these writers who dont respect franchise continuity, wont respect their own continuity. You see this time and time again with star wars, Picard and all these shitty woke adaptations of popular shows bastardized to fit an agenda.
I think the best time Ive ever seen that done was in mortal kombat were they used time travel to retell the events of the first few games while adding enough action to keep it fresh. But they at least acknowledged the events of the past games happened.
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It's literally so fucking easy with Trek, but because their wasn't a strong, single guy at the rudder it was botched. Let the "reboot" movies be what they are, who cares.
But the TV show you simply advance another generation. Big fucking secret. That way you can put in all the unimportant, flashy effects you want and they make sense. Unlike, for instance, setting something in the pre-TOS era and have a ship and other tech that just doesn't look right. They apparently think this is the 3-channel era and that Trek fans are unable to watch old stuff to compare.
Of course that's all predicated on having professional writers developing the series instead of a bunch of leftist hacks.
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Trek (and Wars to a lesser extent) are even easier than that. You don't have to do another generation (which Discovery has now done), just go to another part of the galaxy.
I mean Voyager was literally thrown to the other side and left out of a war. They could have just kept their own internal continuity to tell good stories and be done.
Heck forget TOS, you could do a "retro" show of something contemporaneous with TNG, just set it in some far off sector of the alpha or beta quadrant and go nuts.
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Hell, if you wanted to do something different in the Trek universe why not, for instance, focus on another faction? Maybe a series following the adventures of a Klingon ship. Or even a civilian ship, since we know they existed since Cassidy Yates wasn't a Starfleet captain.
It would give you a lot more leeway with your character writing not having every character be a Starfleet officer and thus they don't have to act like Starfleet officers and can act however the fuck you want them to.
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That would be awesome. Lower decks actually did a really good episode like that were you saw different perspectives from a Vulcan and Klingon ship. Unfortunately I dont think anybody these days want to blow money on alien makeup. Obi wan really cheaped out on alien characters for instance.
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I don't watch Lower Decks because I find the humor unfunny and puerile and the characters intolerably unlikable.
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I feel ya but even SFDebris said it REALLY picks up from episode 3. (and I've heard from some other trekkies praising it) Like - the first two episodes are just awful.
I haven't watched it myself yet, but I'm about to give it a try once a copy falls off a truck based on all these recommendations.