Congrats you figured out every dialogue script in Lower Decks. Make shitty joke then deep cut reference to Star Trek lore. Rinse and repeat
Damn, they ruined that old joke.
Naturally it just has to be the pit bull of religions.
i agree. there is no trace of religion being practiced in the star trek by the humans. we can look at the irl church/religion stats to back the claim that the future humans will be totally secular. i can only recall a few instances of human religion depicted on entire run of star trek in the past 50+ years.
Roddenberry was a bit of an anti-Semite if you believe Nimoy.
In the Vulcans' case, their ceremonies have empirical effects like focusing the mind, mind-melding, and in Spock's case, bringing him back to life. Their definition of religion is more like Buddhism where it's totally fine to worship saints and gods like Surak, but they aren't the bedrock of their beliefs.
...In which it is specifically stated by Kirk that "we find one god enough."
It's a question of how much that was forced on him by the networks though. Given later stuff in the show...
Souls, ghosts, life after death, reincarnation, mind-reading, and prophesy are all completely literally real, but in a totally scientific way that disproves all religions and superstitions. Victorian era spiritualists were basically right about everything but the Federation is too proud to give them credit.
In TOS? Can you give me some examples?
Um... not sure what your question is.
Vulcans could, in theory, create clones of themselves and mind transfer into them after death. After all, why would Vulcans have a specific ceremony to put their minds into a living body? The goal of ST III was to bring back the dead body so they could bury him according to Vulcan customs, not bring him back to life; they just got really lucky. So, did ancient Vulcans try the whole mind transference immortality thing and found that it drove them insane every time? Like, sure the clones break down eventually, but that's after many replications and since Vulcans can live for 200 years per body, they could have had thousands of years of clone use.
McCoy was also a person and not a blank slate. I mean clones like in Up the Long Ladder.
Oh I quite agree, but given a lot of what I've learned, I think a lot of those religious references in the show were pushed on Gene by the network. (kind of like how other shows over the year have had to had like "anti-drug" episodes or "earth day" episodes etc)
Depends on the show. Yes Hollywood was always Red but you'd have church and church references in older shows all the time (like Andy Griffith). You'd have to give me more examples because if it was on long enough, a church or preacher would eventually appear. I think it was more of a general aim that the church was kept as vaguely protestant as possible to have the widest demographic appeal.
Considering they did that with Vorta in the Dominion... it's interesting to imagine the Vulcans going down that same path. i wonder if anyone wrote a story examining this. Like maybe Vulcans realized this method would cause their society to stagnate so they adopted an ethos to move on and embrace death to ensure their society could keep advancing.
Oh they actually love religion. But what they really want from them is freakshows. They want to see people in silly hats doing bizzare rituals and referencing their gods now and then. Like Bajorans randomly referencing the Prophets.
Most episodes were by different writers who were given pretty broad latitude in their scripts.
