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Chilson said:
Believe it or not she was supposed to be a part of the main cast. Thankfully, someone stepped in and told them how much that would cost to do the zero gravity scenes and they just made her a one off.
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Well fuck, I just realized that the actress who played Melora is Daphne Ashbrook, the sister of Dana Ashbrook, most famously known for his role as Bobby Briggs in Twin Peaks.
 
Flexo said:
And Lorca seems a decent character.
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The worst part about STD is how they keep having these interesting ideas to explore in a star trek manner and then proceed to just fuck them into the dirt. Every single damned time. A traumatized idealist captain broken by the horrors of space war, and determined to take care of his crew even if it means being the jaded hardass he needs to be? nope, heel turn and its suddenly cartoonishly evil villain time.
 
Cpl. Long Dong Silver said:
Did the person who wrote Melora hate the disabled? Why is Ensign Pelzar such a raging bitch?
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I thought that was the most realistic thing about her. Wheelchair users often get a bit of a complex about people helping them, especially if it's unwanted or overly patronising. It leads to them being short-fused and needlessly antagonistic.

Pretty shit episode, though. I always skip it.
 
Melora did have that one scene with the Klingon mall food court stall which was entertaining. It doesn’t save the episode but it’s still fun.
 
Burt Ryan said:
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I forgot if I posted this already.
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Reminded me of this one I made ages ago.
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teriyakiburns said:
I thought that was the most realistic thing about her. Wheelchair users often get a bit of a complex about people helping them, especially if it's unwanted or overly patronising. It leads to them being short-fused and needlessly antagonistic.

Pretty shit episode, though. I always skip it.
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yeah it really was a pretty solid portrayal of it
it just didn't make for a very entertaining space tv show
 
Just finished DS9, so here's what I thought of the ending.

That Pah-Wraith plotline was fucking stupid. I guess that prophets couldn't get someone to just go burn the Book of the Kosst Amojan because it's too linear or some bullshit. The Prophets themselves were completely retconned in "Accession" from not caring at all about Bajor to being deeply invested in manipulating their society like the Bene Gesserit from Dune.
However, the Dominion War had a somewhat satisfying conclusion although I don't know how much Odo would change the mind of the entire Great Link. Having such a dangerous threat right across the wormhole seems to be a rather precarious situation.

As a whole:
I liked the idea of the Dominion as an enemy and I find their behaviour topical even today. What made this show shine were the various ideologies and philosophies of all the races of the Alpha and Gamma Qaudrants being forced together in a confined space to discuss, bicker, hash out agreements, and come-up with solutions. The scene where Quark gives Garak root beer is still one of my favorites. Although I agree with RLM that there was probably a bit too much action with giant swarms of ships flying at each other, the nitty-gritty events of the war like Sisko's plot to get the Romulans in or the Section 31 virus brought up interesting moral dilemmas. Ultimately, as I said in the spoiler, I think the show suffered from half-thought out plotlines that had developments or conclusions that didn't make sense, besides the Dominion War; I especially hate what they did with Dukat's character. Nevertheless a lot of the stand-alone episodes were fantastic. I even liked "Move Along Home."
 
So far, I've only seen the first episode of Voyager, which I thought was pretty good. Hopefully the show will maintain a similar tone throughout.
 
Yeah, the Pah Wraith and Prophets story lines really shit the bed after Dukat became too popular with the fans when he started making sense that the Bajorans deserved what they got during the occupation. Instead of taking a nuanced approach to his character, the producers went full retard and made him super space religious nut Hitler. What they should've done is show how charismatic men can have normal people follow them and do terrible things. Have him instead of Garak speak of the Cardassian genocide and how his intentions - whatever they were - led to this, I don't know. They did it with Damar who repented. He could still get his comeuppance in the end, but Jesus, they could've done a better job. Anything other than what they did.
 
Stoned out of my mind I've decided to keep a running journal of my 1st reactions to DS9 Season 2 post Cripple Bitch AKA Gas the normies AKA Ensign Palzar

Rules of Acquisition: Islam The Ferengi are right about woman. Shout out to Quark for refusing a loving woman you connect with on a deeper level for not being content as a trad wife. She's for the streets!! - seriously tho a good/great episode as it was just a strong A plot as opposed to a mid to high A plot "Bajor bullshir" and a superfluous B plot like "Nog and Jake learn not to shove firecrackers up a space animal's ass.

Shit I'm about to fall asleep. Will make it more than one episode next time
 
GreenJacket said:
Just finished DS9, so here's what I thought of the ending.

That Pah-Wraith plotline was fucking stupid. I guess that prophets couldn't get someone to just go burn the Book of the Kosst Amojan because it's too linear or some bullshit. The Prophets themselves were completely retconned in "Accession" from not caring at all about Bajor to being deeply invested in manipulating their society like the Bene Gesserit from Dune.
However, the Dominion War had a somewhat satisfying conclusion although I don't know how much Odo would change the mind of the entire Great Link. Having such a dangerous threat right across the wormhole seems to be a rather precarious situation.

As a whole:
I liked the idea of the Dominion as an enemy and I find their behaviour topical even today. What made this show shine were the various ideologies and philosophies of all the races of the Alpha and Gamma Qaudrants being forced together in a confined space to discuss, bicker, hash out agreements, and come-up with solutions. The scene where Quark gives Garak root beer is still one of my favorites. Although I agree with RLM that there was probably a bit too much action with giant swarms of ships flying at each other, the nitty-gritty events of the war like Sisko's plot to get the Romulans in or the Section 31 virus brought up interesting moral dilemmas. Ultimately, as I said in the spoiler, I think the show suffered from half-thought out plotlines that had developments or conclusions that didn't make sense, besides the Dominion War; I especially hate what they did with Dukat's character. Nevertheless a lot of the stand-alone episodes were fantastic. I even liked "Move Along Home."
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Say what you want about the ending, but I still think Dukat is the best Star Trek named villain. People saying Khan and the Borg Queen are delusional.

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Burt Ryan said:
Say what you want about the ending, but I still think Dukat is the best Star Trek named villain. People saying Khan and the Borg Queen are delusional.

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The Cardassians are the best villain race in all of Star Trek. Fantastic look to them, great at courtier talk, which is how they're different than the Romulans, and they get to express a wide range of emotions which is how you get episodes like Duet.
 
villain?

my favorite part of the DS9 ending is when Wynn is like NOW! EVIL SPIRITS! LET'S DO STUFF! and it turns out not even Space Satans like being around her
 
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