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Overly Serious said:
I liked him, definitely. But even so, his Delivery. Is. Quite. Something.
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The best is when he would get angry and rant, he gets all breathy and starts chewing the scenery like crazy. Best examples being when he was a Bond villain on the holodeck and at the end of the 1930s racism episode ("NOOO! IT IS REEEEAAALL!!")

Avery Brooks himself is quite a strange guy, here he is totally blasted and shitposting on the piano with Shatner
 
Overly Serious said:
The which and the whatnow? I missed a handful of episodes here and there, mainly around S3&4, due to them not playing on the service I was using. I don't remember anything about Quark having a daughter. I just searched online and found nothing. Is this a funny way of alluding to something else?


Well that's an unsettling psychological explanation that hadn't occurred to me.
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Cnut said:
So many people keep saying they skipped it, I wonder if it's not available on streaming. Maybe a rights issue or something idk
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It's that episode where Morn gives that one-shot monologue in a single take...that's like 5 fucking minutes too long. Just because you didn't have any speaking lines in any other episode doesn't mean you just get to cash in all those chips at once, ya know.

Was part of that speech he gave copyrighted, and they lost the rights? Or is it just "too problematic" for today's audience?
 
Gan Ying said:
Best examples being when he was a Bond villain
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I enjoy Avery and his hammy ways. Its almost, but not quite Kirk-esque. Seriously, he needs to do a spoken word version of Rocket Man. His over-the-top Hippocrates Noah was very enjoyable. That was a fun episode. The only Trek series where most of the Holodeck episodes aren't groaners. There's a few good ones in TNG and VOY, but DS9 got the lion's share of enjoyable holodeck episodes.

And I, for one, enjoy the Vic Fontaine. But I was exposed to that music as a youngin' and was accustomed to it. And I grew to enjoy it(too much) playing too much New Vegas. Also, its surprising how many guys 30-45 enjoy the Hell out of the Rat Pack and Vegas Lounge because of DS9 and New Vegas.

Dr. Sexbot said:
It's that episode where Morn gives that one-shot monologue in a single take...that's like 5 fucking minutes too long. Just because you didn't have any speaking lines in any other episode doesn't mean you just get to cash in all those chips at once, ya know.
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I was going to say I can't imagine why they never gave him another line, again. But I can.
 
JustSomeDong said:
And I, for one, enjoy the Vic Fontaine
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yeah I can see why it's grating for a lot of people but I liked them, and the one with Nog really was enough of a payoff dramatically to make all the wacky stuff worthwhile
I generally like lounge music and old vegas type stuff too so that helps

local jazz station occasionally plays James Darren and the jock will mention his stint as Vic in DS9 usually
 
For those who were/are shitting on the TMP I just want to say a few things as an old fuck who was around for it.

The main point to remember is that Trek was dead as far as anyone knew. TAS had come and gone and all we Trekkie's had left was Beta and later VHS recordings of TOS to sustain our faith. We were the pilgrims in the desert waiting for manna to rain down.

We had fan groups, newsletters (you had to send a certified cheque to some random guy and once a quarter you'd get a copy sent to you in the mail) and later the conventions but Trek was over.

You have to understand back then how Trek affected people, we were not a jaded and cynical as kids are today. The first convention was 100% fan created and was only estimated to bring in maybe 3,OOO people... but 15,000 came out and packed the hotel to the bursting point. The last days Q&A brought Kelly to tears and even Nimoy and Shatner were over awed at the reception they received when they walked on stage that afternoon (and Shatner later wrote he was almost terrified by the out pouring of emotion and at the sheer volume of the cheers and applause) . Expecting just some few die hard fans they were greeted with a mass of humanity cheering and applauding. Kelly would write in his book how nothing in his previous Hollywood experiences prepared him for such emotion. How it was then he knew that Roddenberry had created something truly extra-ordinary.

So that's all we had during those days, no real news leaked out like today so when the news finally broke that TMP was being shot it was like manna raining down from heaven. Just seeing the Big E on the big screen in such detail, seeing all the old actors back together was pretty damn amazing and watching Shatner, Nimoy and Kelly all fall right back into their characters without a hitch was wonderful.

Sure in hindsight the story was a little weak but damn it, was Trek and it was glorious and so we feasted on it like starving animals.

That's why so many old timers hold TMP close to their hearts because it was more then just a movie, it was the reignition of something they valued, something that had touched them personally. Then we went on to get II and III and IV which are arguable better movies but they didn't have the same impact as TMP when it came out.

So for the record TMP is a good Star Trek movie and as it rekindled the franchise thus deserves it's high spot in the cannon. Sure Wrath was awesomer action wise and IV was funnier and more entertaining (but it was barely a Star Trek movie) and hell I even like III. McCoy's line at the beginning is probably the best line in the whole damn series IMHO.

Kirk - My God Bones...what have I done? (watching the Enterprise burn up as it's enters the atmosphere, delivered in the way only Shatner can)

McCoy - What you had to do...what you always do. Turned certain death into a fighting chance for life.

So..yah kindly stop shitting on TMP just because it's a little slow and dated by modern standards.
 
Sweeter and Savoury said:
IV was funnier and more entertaining (but it was barely a Star Trek movie
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mah green-blooded pointy eared hobgoblin, I totally feel that

The Disorderlies But It's The TOS Gang had a bit of lineage from the TOS time travel eps and the wacky mob planet, but yeah it was really weak as trek

Also it's hard to undersell how amazingly great the gravure videos of the 1701 are cool on the big screen
 
ToroidalBoat said:
lol

Even with youtube.com/embed/[video code], there's so many vids hit with that BS. Especially ST clips.
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jeet code?
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