Star Trek - Space: The Final Frontier

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This is now my official headcanon.
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Lithos said:
STD Season 4: An extra-galactic race was mining all of the Milky Way to death.
STD Season 5: A progenitor device that can "reboot" the entire Milky Way.
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Wait... I haven't even read about S4 and 5 after the autism of 3.

Are you serious?
 
Tasty Tatty said:
I never disliked that episode.

I'm not a racist either...


I like that episode. Not for the Killing Wesley or for the Fucking, but bc the premise is interesting: rigid discipline and justice work to maintain a functional society, but what happens when accidents happen? No wonder their god kicked the federation out so quick.
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Planet that's all white and there's little to no crime?
What did roddenberry mean by this?
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moving on...

I know this is done because of story tension, but it's really dumb when you think about it. Through the course of exploring the galaxy, the various ships will inevitably encounter some enemy or anomaly that takes out the ships systems like: transporters, communications, sensors, ect which leaves the ship disabled. Always the shuttles are ignored which have all of those things and are entirely separate systems that could be used in an emergency. Main power down and you can't use the communications or transporters? Use a shuttle and you probably wouldn't even have to leave the shuttle bay. This goes double so for the ships with runabouts and the Delta Flyer - which have much more advanced systems then your regular type 2 shuttle. Also why isn't there an emergency communications system that is completely separate and airgapped from the exploding power system on the bridge and main engineering? It seems like life is so worthless in the 24th century that losing crew and entire ships is just a normal everyday thing in the federation.
 
Flexo said:
Wait... I haven't even read about S4 and 5 after the autism of 3.

Are you serious?
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Yeah, even if I'm oversimplifying a touch.
S4 had "Species 10-C", a Type II civilization of titanic jellyfish who communicate with pheromones and emotions. They were from outside the Milky Way and were mining for some element to power their galactic transport ships or whatever. They created a device that opens up rifts several lightyears wide to suck out all of this element, and destroying everything else caught in it. Appeared randomly, but of course it would hit all the plot-important places with the final place being, surprise, Earth. It's not an immediate galaxy destroying thing, it's a slow galaxy destroying thing, but ultimately... it's a galaxy destroying thing.

Michael of course solves this all, and they create a device to get the 10-C's attention and show that everyone in the Milky Way has love and emotions and shouldn't be killed, and the creatures go "Oopsie!" and leave.

S5 was Indiana Jones, with the Breen with a Death Star as the Nazis, and Michael as Indiana Jones. They're on a wild goose chase to get clues to find a Progenitor Device that is just the Genesis device on steroids. The Breen of course would use it to lord over everyone and recreate whole sectors in their image. Michael will of course, toss it in a black hole.

S5 did probably have the first case of "White guy who disagrees with Michael Burnham" and DIDN'T die horribly. The guy was likely a response to how cool everyone thought Shaw was in Picard s3, so they had to have their own Shaw-esque, Jellico-type hardass character.
 
Mussolini’s Merkin said:
Colm is another one of those cast members that doesn’t seem too fond of his time on the series, but he’s always come across as a decent person overall.

I think he might have had one of the better post careers too, it’s amazing how many films he will pop up in.
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And people still say "that's the guy from Star Trek". I think he doesn't really mind.
 
The first time I saw Cole Meaney in anything outside of Trek was in Under Siege. Chief O’Brien cursing and hamming it up with Tommy Lee Jones and Gary Buseey blew my mind.
 
Ialdabaoth said:
The first time I saw Cole Meaney in anything outside of Trek was in Under Siege. Chief O’Brien cursing and hamming it up with Tommy Lee Jobes and Gary Buseey blew my mind.
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He played Thomas Durant in Hell on Wheels, and I thought he was pretty good in it. Completely separate character to Chief O'Brien and it was very well done.
 
Ialdabaoth said:
The first time I saw Cole Meaney in anything outside of Trek was in Under Siege. Chief O’Brien cursing and hamming it up with Tommy Lee Jones and Gary Buseey blew my mind.
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Oooh, right in the feels. I had only ever seen him in trek, and my Dad goes and rents Under Siege. The ONLY good Steven Seagal movie, and it being good has absolutely nothing to do with Steven Seagal. Gary Busey and Tommy Lee Jones stole the show.
 
Chilson said:
No, no it doesn't and I am tired of people defending the fucking stupid crystalline entity. Its fucking retarded to do anything but kill it. IT KILLS ALL LIFE ON ENTIRE FUCKING PLANETS FFS!!!

Its the same shitty logic of letting lions maul people to death because its natural for lions to eat people. We invented spears to kill the things mauling us to death, not because we didn't like the color of their skin.
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Still makes way more sense than sparing the Borg...

Sweeter and Savoury said:
When Deforest Kelly was asked if he was sad that all his old Hollywood roles would be forgotten and overshadowed by McCoy what did he say?
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Night of the Lepus will never be forgotten. I kinda associate Leonard Nimoy with In Search Of as much as anything. He is the voice of presenting absolute nonsense as probable fact with complete earnestness. Now a lot of people will tell you 90s conspiracy theories were best, but I think the 70s had a really special kind of woo.
 
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Cross-contamination from the Patrick S. Tomlinson thread.
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They think they want Starfleet because they expect they will spend their days doing nothing while society won't let them starve or being homeless, but reality is that their society doesn't have useless people. I'm sure people still would look down on you for being a loser. Their economy has changed, but not their attitudes. Bullies are still a thing, kids still go to school and are expected to do well, etc.
 
Tasty Tatty said:
They think they want Starfleet because they expect they will spend their days doing nothing while society won't let them starve or being homeless, but reality is that their society doesn't have useless people. I'm sure people still would look down on you for being a loser. Their economy has changed, but not their attitudes. Bullies are still a thing, kids still go to school and are expected to do well, etc.
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Absurdly well. Calculus is somehow an elementary school subject.

 
Calandrino said:
Still makes way more sense than sparing the Borg...


Night of the Lepus will never be forgotten. I kinda associate Leonard Nimoy with In Search Of as much as anything. He is the voice of presenting absolute nonsense as probable fact with complete earnestness. Now a lot of people will tell you 90s conspiracy theories were best, but I think the 70s had a really special kind of woo.
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Speaking of 90s in search of style stuff i'd recommend sightings if you haven't seen it. Its about as close to in search of that you'll find and has some interesting episodes. Lots of them are on youtube

Tasty Tatty said:
They think they want Starfleet because they expect they will spend their days doing nothing while society won't let them starve or being homeless, but reality is that their society doesn't have useless people. I'm sure people still would look down on you for being a loser. Their economy has changed, but not their attitudes. Bullies are still a thing, kids still go to school and are expected to do well, etc.
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Not to mention they seem to have forgotten about the large number of backwater federation colonies that either go to shit or end up getting eaten by space amoebas and such

Besides its 2025, shouldn't we be putting those types of idiots into those hobo districts by now?
 
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