Star Trek - Space: The Final Frontier

He doesn't want to play a video game because it's set in a time and place where there was racism against black people
I was already beyond done with the holodeck so it was refreshing to hear a character call it out, even with an agenda. (Janeway was considering emigrating to Space Ireland.) It had the bones of old-school Trek—big ideas used as battlegrounds.

Glad they didn’t try to whitewash Vic; don’t try to sell us some tale of lovable paisanos.

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SNW actually revealed we are in the (bad) timeline where the film's temporal fuckery delays Khan's IVF inception till 1999, he's currently marinating in a test tube in Toronto if you wanna bust him out and get the Eastern Coalition/Western Alliance party started, no idea wtf Colonel Green is up too though.
SNW have also used Jan 6 footage to show how bad humans were.

When was Fuentes "born"
"On Earth, two hundred years ago, I was a catboy enjoyer, with power over millions of groypers."
 
It's kinda funny how SNW is the ENT of "watchable Trek" but the TNG of "NuTrek" -- I don't know how I feel about that.
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It's kinda funny how SNW is the ENT of "watchable Trek" but the TNG of "NuTrek" -- I don't know how I feel about that.

Well, then you have The Orville of it all when considering modern Trek.

I like SNW. I've noticed quite a few people are just dismissive of the idea it could have any redeeming quality. Just chose to be negative on everything. I'm of the view that even though franchises are mismanaged, if there's something decent, I'll take it. Yet these people act as if you're just a consumer idiot accepting slop.

The frustrating thing with SNW is that it's like 80% a good show and the 20% that isn't seems needlessly so. Things that easily could have not being done and avoided.

Having said that, I'll probably go to shit because whatever constraint was put on it to course correct from Discovery will probably slip.
 
I'll be honest, I enjoyed SNW so far. But I deliberately skipped the musical episode, and I'm gonna have to be pretty drunk to even attempt that one.

I also like Enterprise. I think I just wanted to start a fire yesterday.

I do agree that Orville is great, even if it's only in the Star Trek family tree by way of marriage.

I also really like that this thread is so cozy that I don't have to quote or @ y'all.
 
All you Star Trek nerds have my deepest sympathies. To have something you care about cheapened, by a twat/kurtzman/philistine must hurt.

A smarter man than me could write a Star Trek episode around that very premise.

Section 31 looks diabolical.
 
Let's see what AI can do.

Title: "Echoes of Valor"

Teaser:
The Enterprise crew discovers a derelict Federation broadcast satellite transmitting a garish, sensationalized holodrama titled The Glorious Enterprise, created by a notorious media mogul named Kurtzman. The program depicts exaggerated, shallow versions of the crew’s most cherished missions—Picard as a swaggering tyrant, Riker as a womanizing buffoon, Data as a bumbling android, and Troi as a melodramatic psychic. The crew is initially amused, but unease sets in as they realize the signal is being picked up across the quadrant, cheapening their legacy.

Act 1:
Captain Picard orders an investigation into the satellite’s origins, tracing it to Kurtzman, a self-aggrandizing entertainment tycoon from a nearby system who claims he’s “honoring” the Enterprise’s heroism to boost his own fame. The crew debates the impact: Geordi and Worf are furious at the mockery of their technical and warrior skills, while Beverly feels her medical triumphs reduced to soap-opera tropes. Data, curious, analyzes the drama and notes its factual inaccuracies, yet detects a strange emotional resonance in its popularity.

Act 2:
The Enterprise tracks Kurtzman to his lavish orbital studio. He’s unapologetic, arguing that his version “inspires” the masses more than the “boring truth.” Tensions rise when a young ensign, a fan of the holodrama, begins questioning the crew’s real methods, suggesting Kurtzman’s flair has merit. Picard confronts the erosion of their values—duty, exploration, and sacrifice—while Troi senses Kurtzman’s insecurity beneath his bravado. Meanwhile, the satellite’s signal begins interfering with local comms, causing diplomatic confusion.

Act 3:
The crew works to shut down the satellite, but Kurtzman counters with a legal claim under free expression laws. Riker leads an away team to infiltrate the studio, uncovering that Kurtzman plagiarized logs from a retired Starfleet officer who idolized the Enterprise. During a heated debate, Picard challenges Kurtzman’s cynicism, asserting that truth, not spectacle, forges meaning. Data, inspired, hacks the satellite to broadcast the crew’s unvarnished logs instead.

Act 4:
The quadrant sees the real Enterprise—flawed, human, and heroic. Kurtzman’s audience dwindles, and he storms off, humiliated. The crew reflects in Ten Forward: though stung by the cheapening, they find solace in the ensign’s renewed pride and letters from viewers touched by their authentic story. Picard muses that even in distortion, some good can emerge if you reclaim the narrative.

Tag:
Data experiments with his own holodrama about the crew—stilted but earnest—prompting a rare laugh from Picard as the Enterprise warps to its next mission.

This outline keeps the TNG spirit: a challenge to the crew’s core values, a smarmy antagonist, and a resolution that reaffirms their principles while finding silver linings. Let me know if you’d like to tweak anything!
 
The Enterprise crew discovers a derelict Federation broadcast satellite transmitting a garish, sensationalized holodrama titled The Glorious Enterprise, created by a notorious media mogul named Kurtzman. The program depicts exaggerated, shallow versions of the crew’s most cherished missions—Picard as a swaggering tyrant, Riker as a womanizing buffoon, Data as a bumbling android, and Troi as a melodramatic psychic. The crew is initially amused, but unease sets in as they realize the signal is being picked up across the quadrant, cheapening their legacy.
This is just that Voyager episode with the Doctor writing a holonovel, but without the gay civil rights undertones. I endorse.
 
>tfw the local talk host casually namedrops Sto-vo-kor out of nowhere like everybody knows what the Klingon afterlife is
 
This outline keeps the TNG spirit: a challenge to the crew’s core values, a smarmy antagonist, and a resolution that reaffirms their principles while finding silver linings. Let me know if you’d like to tweak anything!
Pretty good. My fanficiton is more a continuation of DS9.

Also, I figured I'd drop this in here for everyone's enjoyment:

 
Pretty good. My fanficiton is more a continuation of DS9.

Also, I figured I'd drop this in here for everyone's enjoyment:

I can't help but to like him. I miss 90's action movie bad guy Colm Meaney, too. He was great as the asshole fed in Con Air. And Under Siege? Its a good thing it had great casting for the bad guys to save it from being a Steven Seagal film. Seeing chief O'Brian as a bad guy was always fun when I was younger. He still acts, and does it well, but it doesn't feel the same, but that is a digression. Its also one of the reasons I loved the Bashir Holodeck Secret Agent stuff where O'Brian was Falcon.

"Why do I always have to be the bad guy?"
 
I can't help but to like him. I miss 90's action movie bad guy Colm Meaney, too. He was great as the asshole fed in Con Air. Seeing chief O'Brian as a bad guy was always fun when I was younger. He still acts, and does it well, but it doesn't feel the same, but that is a digression. Its also one of the reasons I loved the Bashir Holodeck Secret Agent stuff where O'Brian was Falcon.

"Why do I always have to be the bad guy?"
Meaney was great in Layer Cake, too. The episode where Odo interrupts Bashir's holosuite program and it lets O'Brien catch him was so goddamn funny.

In general, the O'Brien-Bashir holosuite episodes were always fantastic. Them fighting together was also a subtle nod to the idealism of the franchise since it was an Irishman and a Brit side-by-side. This was before the Good Friday Agreement.
 
Meaney was great in Layer Cake, too. The episode where Odo interrupts Bashir's holosuite program and it lets O'Brien catch him was so goddamn funny.

In general, the O'Brien-Bashir holosuite episodes were always fantastic. Them fighting together was also a subtle nod to the idealism of the franchise since it was an Irishman and a Brit side-by-side. This was before the Good Friday Agreement.
I love that scene where the Duke is ranting and raving, and Meany puts him back in his box.

 
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