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She's still there, and gaining weight. Unfortunately SNW isn't getting any seasons after the short season 4 so we won't get Tilly-level gainer kino.Speaking about Khan, what happened to the Khan character in SNW? Was she just nostalgia-bait?
And JJTrek isn't even that. Abrams admitted he was more a Star Wars fan when he got the Trek gig. Its obvious the Trek movies were his test to qualify for doing Star Wars (which he ironically failed at.)Except that's what NuTrek is: crappy fanfiction.
Hell, the the first abrams trek film is pretty much a beat for beat retelling of A New Hope.And JJTrek isn't even that. Abrams admitted he was more a Star Wars fan when he got the Trek gig. Its obvious the Trek movies were his test to qualify for doing Star Wars (which he ironically failed at.)
Bell riots were set in the 2020s while the show was in the 90s, thus avoiding currentyear shenanigansUh... the Bell Riots, sir.
From story elements and "twists" that have drifted down to me against my will from PIC and SNW not to mention my own existential pessimism regarding this franchise, I have a really fucking bad feeling that kurtzman is quietly planning an entire currentyear trek series based on the eugenics wars, with PIC's godawful season 2 being a test runSpeaking about Khan, what happened to the Khan character in SNW? Was she just nostalgia-bait?
For all the sins of JJtrek, they were at least attempting to be entertaining in spots. Sure they were low-brow action schlock, but at least they didn't make half the cast obese and ugly and talk like teenagers.
Like, even the aesthetic stuff that's nearly identical is still slightly better in the kelvin material. That's how bad it's gotten.
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Hell, the the first abrams trek film is pretty much a beat for beat retelling of A New Hope.
I wouldn't worry about (((Kurtzman))) making anymore Star Trek with Skydance now owning Paramount and promising no more DEI bullshit. Starfleet Academy will be the last Star Trek that little jew rat will be making. It's not like he could write a show without any DEI.From story elements and "twists" that have drifted down to me against my will from PIC and SNW not to mention my own existential pessimism regarding this franchise, I have a really fucking bad feeling that kurtzman is quietly planning an entire currentyear trek series based on the eugenics wars, with PIC's godawful season 2 being a test run
I wouldn't worry about (((Kurtzman))) making anymore Star Trek with Skydance now owning Paramount and promising no more DEI bullshit. Starfleet Academy will be the last Star Trek that little jew rat will be making. It's not like he could write a show without any DEI.
I always think back to that Ron Moore quote about technobabble being "the easiest card" to play, because writers are people, and most people are lazy and just want to go lie down. Today, the easy mode is just self-referential humor.I wish I shared your optimism. Even if you strip all the DEI stuff out of nu-Trek, the problem is that the base writing just isn’t there any more. It’ll still be dumb schlock, just with less girlboss kweens and diversity hires. The central plot points have all been ass.
I just don’t think the kind of writers that created the original Trek exist in Hollywood any more.



This of course is with the very optimistic assumption that some brand new fuckin consultancy induced gimmick will not be crowbarred in and dialled up to a thousand as part of a wider attempt to brute force said gimmick into becoming currentyear norm the way wokeshit/DEI was until recentlyI wish I shared your optimism. Even if you strip all the DEI stuff out of nu-Trek, the problem is that the base writing just isn’t there any more. It’ll still be dumb schlock, just with less girlboss kweens and diversity hires. The central plot points have all been ass.
If I am right....and I really fucking hope I aint....then when the time comes that this shit manifests in Star Trek we may learn to miss the days of Michael Burnham
I mean Enterprise and Voyager always had enjoyable parts to them, it was just overshadowed by the bad. Stuff like that can be looked back on fondly eventually because the further you get away from it, the more the good moments stand out amongst the lackluster stuff. It's what sticks with you and you can appreciate it more in hindsight (along with comparing it to something worse).Speaking of, it is amusing to look at the conversation at the start of this thread and see people shitting on both Voyager and Enterprise. 12 years later and they are remembered with fondness compared to nu-Trek. Same as it ever was, same as it ever was…