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Q heaps existential crisis after existential crisis upon Picard yet dumps his mommy issues and babysitting duty on Janeway. Does that reveal more about Q, about Janeway vs. Picard, or about the writers?
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Maybe there was some "only see/hear as you are able to see/hear" thing going on with Janeway's encounters with Q. She was in the mist of an especially hateful menopause and had been gorging herself on harlequin period romance novels and Space Häagen-Dazs along with her usual bucket of Marlboros and so that directly altered how their communications and even appearances were translated to her.

If Picard had been there they would have had more witty and philosophical discussions about human nature, if Sisko had been there it would have basically turned the ship into the infamous WWE plane ride from hell as the two brawled through the corridors, if Kirk had been there Q would be going full Jupiter complete with toga and lightning and forcing Kirk to fight half naked in a colosseum, if Archer had been there Q would have taken the form of Porthos and told him to Virus Bomb the Vulcans before they stole his pancreas, and if Michael had been there Q would have outsourced his appearance to the fucking Organians because he has better shit to do
 
California Newt said:
> the one where Seven becomes a conspiracy theorist and thinks the Caretaker incident was an inside job
> the one where Janeway gets an AI boyfriend
> the one in the void
> the one where alien spies hack into the EMH's daydreams and think they're real
> the one where they go to Icheb's planet, which is next to a Borg transwarp conduit
> the one with the planet where time goes fast
> the one where that one Hirogen figures out their race's "predator" premise has stagnated their culture and tries to assuage their hunter instincts with holodeck LARPing, but a Nazi hologram convinces his second in command to mutiny
> the one where they find Tuvok's anti-Maquis contingency simulation and start re-writing it for fun
> the one with the EMH's novel
> the one where Neelix finds the other Talaxians
> the one where every part of the ship is at a different season of the show
> the one with the Klingon Mayflower
> the Barklay episode where he simulates himself on Voyager

Yeah I'm sorry, but Voyager is premium gold-plated gigakino. It's just a constant gradual progression upwards, with some curveballs thrown in.

Edit: how could I forget:

https://youtube.com/watch?v=6OEtZAlD0TE
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It definitely has some bangers, but I've always been rather fond of VOY due it being the one I saw most growing up.
I liked the one where Neelix dies, gets revived, realises his religion is a lie, and wants to kill himself. Had some O'Brien suffering vibes to it. Not as good as the DS9 one where O'Brien spends a lifetime in a virtual prison and ends up with PTSD over killing his imaginary friend, but pretty good nonetheless.
 
William Murderface said:
Riker stopped being interesting after The Best of Both Worlds.
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You can make the case that Will Riker was never that interesting. People liked Jonathan Frakes, the actor, and even then he survived through memes alone.



Riker's spinning his wheels like 90% of Trek characters, occasionally making you smirk with an ad-lib. I remember when the old Agony Booth site was still alive, and they pointed out that Riker shaving his beard in Insurrection was an unintentional self-own since his whole arc was just “boring until beard,” and then he shaves it off and it’s like, oh cool, the hero’s journey in reverse.

Maybe that’s a little flippant in hindsight, but when you spend seven years doing nothing of consequence, you leave yourself open for punchlines.
 
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ToroidalBoat said:
And of course they couldn't have the rebel Q be the South so they're the Union, with the status quo Q as the rebels instead.
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It still makes one a bit nostalgic for the days when the American Civil War was shorthand for "battle between brothers" and not "right side of history failing to crush the nazis hard enough"
 
Calandrino said:
It still makes one a bit nostalgic for the days when the American Civil War was shorthand for "battle between brothers" and not "right side of history failing to crush the nazis hard enough"
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I get what you’re trying to say but Adolf admired how "Mississippi" handled things, so unsurprisingly “both sides had their reasons” doesn't land.
 
I like how planets look in TOS and TNG, before any later "remastering" was done. Sorta look like worlds in the original Master of Orion vidya ("Civilization in space" game).

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ToroidalBoat said:
I like how planets look in TOS and TNG, before any later "remastering"
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As a rule, I agree. I get why TOS needed a CGI facelift, the show was meant for like a 13-inch television so just blowing it up to 4K isn’t going to make it less shit. I like the new digital establishing shots.

But it falls apart the second the camera cuts back to an ape chucking foam boulders at Kirk.

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The funniest story I read about Kelly, was him getting stalked by a long haired Japanese school girl. Twice

He of course was a gentleman and politely shooed them away. Dude got hit on by every chick in the business but was 100 percent faithful to his wife.
 
Captain Syrup said:
As a rule, I agree. I get why TOS needed a CGI facelift, the show was meant for like a 13-inch television so just blowing it up to 4K isn’t going to make it less shit. I like the new digital establishing shots.
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There were also times where the remastered episodes better conveyed what happened. In the opening to Court Martial, the remastered version has a shot of the Enterprise after it was damaged, as opposed to another orbit shot.
Michael Wade said:
The funniest story I read about Kelly, was him getting stalked by a long haired Japanese school girl. Twice

He of course was a gentleman and politely shooed them away. Dude got hit on by every chick in the business but was 100 percent faithful to his wife.
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"I'm a husband, not a cheater!"
 
Captain Syrup said:
The Jeri Taylor era felt like when cat ladies take over the writers' room. Her big claim to fame was that Jane Eyre hologram with no real point, that two-part holodeck nazi thing, and that glorified Hallmark movie Fair Haven. Maybe if Janeway fucks her make-believe Irish boyfriend, then females will stop changing the channel.
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It gets really cringe and embarrassing when Jeri Taylor writes an episode about her self-insert (Janeway).

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That edit was a pain in the ass to make because it took me some time to find a good picture of the TNG/VOY uniforms, I'm happy it's posted everywhere lol.
 
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At some point many years ago I went to an exibition of Star Trek props. They had lots of the models. I took pictures. Never looked at them. They're probably in a box somewhere on a memory card I no longer have a reader for. Same with a similar exibition of Star Wars stuff.
 
bifftango said:
You really should be spoiler tagging that filthy, filthy starship (and Fiat) porn. Too sexy!
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There can only be one space-Multipla. This is the thing they should have sent to the delta quadrant to spread fear and terror to Janeway's enemies. Alternatively, this is Voyager after 7 years of abuse and modding.
 
The Smithsonian is revitalizing the old Connie Big E model Gene donated. This was the model used on the TV show for it's whole run.

https://airandspace.si.edu/explore/stories/star-trek

It should be back on display by now if your in the area.

Funny how it took the local Fan Club to raise the 100K needed to revamp and restore the old Lady and notice that she wasn't looking too good. And it took the fans to tell the Smithsonian the proper colors and paints because when they got the Big E they only took black and white photos as part of the collection. When the time came to repaint her they had no idea of what the proper colors should be, they had to turn to the fans who once again came through with old color behind the scenes photos and videos. Some of which had never been seen before outside of their owners.

Truly the competency crisis is real.


 
Jake Sisko, dropping the hard R.
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This is a weird fucking episode.

Also, been waiting to bust this one out again...
 
UnKillFill said:
Jake Sisko, dropping the hard R.
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This is a weird fucking episode.

Also, been waiting to bust this one out again...
https://youtube.com/watch?v=6lHgbbM9pu4
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It's strange. Growing up I fucking hated the time travel episodes (you know what I mean) but now that I'm older I don't mind them at all. Shit like this one and Time's Arrow used to be instant channel change for me but now they're a nice break from the space drama. Especially when they creatively apply the other characters to their "real world" counter-parts. Was also vaguely 4th wall breaking seeing them out of make-up, especially Combs and Alaimo.
 
Brain Problems said:
Was also vaguely 4th wall breaking seeing them out of make-up, especially Combs and Alaimo.
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Seeing Dukat and Weyoun reimagined as sinister trenchcoat cops is one of those moments that’s so chilling it borders on genius. They're easily my favorite part of FBTS.

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It's like the Wizard of Oz scene where the old spinster on her gay-ass penny-farthing threatens Toto, and then in the dream she turns into the Wicked Witch and menaces the dog again!:O
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To this day I can't read "It's real!" somewhere and not think of Sisko's spergout.
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This is where casting Shakespearean actors kind of backfires. That kind of operatic performance works when the guy’s wearing forehead ridges and standing on a fake alien planet. But when you drop that energy into an office, it's just some dude having a very public meltdown at work. You start to feel embarrassed for Avery.
bifftango said:
You really should be spoiler tagging that filthy, filthy starship (and Fiat) porn. Too sexy!
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