Star Trek - Space: The Final Frontier

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Just finished watching Deep Space Nine S02E14 'Whispers' and I have to give the episode props for a couple things.

I've already hit the point with DS9 (as I do with most shows, movies, and videogames pretty quickly) where as soon as the central conflict of an episode becomes apparent, I generally already know what the twist will be and how the episode will resolve.

'Whispers' threw me for a loop and I was on completely the wrong track for how it would resolve (I latched onto O'Brien telling Sisko about the weird pheromones the Paratus secrete: thats a red herring). Even when I was convinced I knew what was up, I wasn't sure if it was "real" or "all in O'Brien's head".

So, points for successfully misdirecting me, points for being able to toe the line of what's real and what's not, and also points for having the episode end the way it did with some feels.

Also also, shout out to the previous episode ("Armageddon Game") when Quark gives a typically Ferengi money-obsessed eulogy, and yet somehow while quoting the Rules Of Acquisition he manages to actually say something pretty nice.
 
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Tasty Tatty said:
Is there any sci-fi in this sci-fi TV show?
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They stole the DNA of the War College guy to grow a copy of his eyeball to break into his quarters. That's sci-fi. French-Klingon fusion cuisine is now canon. So is a tiny Asian Romulan girl giving the double deuce to the Starfleet faggots. I'm lucky they're only releasing one episode a week because if they pulled an Echo I'd never be able to watch it so you ungrateful fucks don't have to.
 
SteelPlatedHeart said:
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Also Gay Klingon was fully confirmed to be gay.
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Nu Trek's monk-like commitment to being the least sexy thing ever broadcast. An incredible run. I vaguely remember Zoe Saldana and Alice Eve registering as “hot” but they make the new stuff look like Veggie Tales.
Lurkerish Kandor said:
Also also, shout out to the previous episode ("Armageddon Game") when Quark gives a typically Ferengi money-obsessed eulogy, and yet somehow while quoting the Rules Of Acquisition he manages to actually say something pretty nice.
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Reminds me of when Quark hallucinates the Ferengi Jesus. (I’m glad they didn’t do the classic Star Trek thing where he time-travels and fist-bumps him.) Here, Gint is sort of the 'conscience' of the Ferengi. Which explains why some of the rules are Hallmark cards. "Rule 31: Be nice to your mom.” What the fuck is this?
 
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Lurkerish Kandor said:
Also also, shout out to the previous episode ("Armageddon Game") when Quark gives a typically Ferengi money-obsessed eulogy, and yet somehow while quoting the Rules Of Acquisition he manages to actually say something pretty nice.
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People forget Quark is a "people person" and haves a heart three sizes larger than an average Ferengi.
 
“Look at me, I sit all complicated and goofy because I’m just so quirky!”

It’s crazy just how hard Star Trek has attempted to shift it’s demographic.
 
SteelPlatedHeart said:
It’s crazy just how hard Star Trek has attempted to shift it’s demographic.
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It's ADHD/self care/millennial stereotype Trek, written by an alien who doesn't understand how people talk.

The bubble has popped, and Kurtzman was never good at it, anyway. In real life he says "Quirk chungus" while checking his watch.
 
Dragged Into Sunlight said:
This woman is 70 fucking years old. Are we really doing this?
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It's a show made by women.

Mr. Racewar1488 said:
I watched the newest episode of Starfleet Academy and there isn't anything worth screenshotting. There's a locker room scene where the jock character talks about fucking a dude and the dude's two sisters. Everyone is in their underwear and the chicks are either a carpenter's dream, flat as a board and easy to screw, or ham planets. Tig Nataro and the Jemmie/Klingon hybrid are scissoring. Is Quentin Tarantino directing episode because Holly Hunter's feet were on full display. Gross. It's boring and barely worth mocking.
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Imagine bothering to make a female Jem'hadar hybrid only to have her be a dyke...
 
To me each captain is perfect for his series. I won't discuss the psychopathic genocide machine that takes the form of a the human female known as Janeway.

Archer is the rough diamond. He's learning, his ship is new, Starfleet is taking it's first few step and everything is one big unknown. You need more of a solider then a diplomat in a time like that. Everything is new and everything is rough around the edges. So is Archer. He fights, he talks, he learns. He tries to make the quadrant a better place but he's new at it and fucks up more often then not.

Kirk comes next. The Federation is set-up and secure but there are huge unknowns out there, hostile aliens and aggressive neighbours that need to be dealt with. There are many new areas that still need to be explore and many new races that need to be fucked met and relations opened. Sometimes we come in peace, sometime we come with a fist but the Federation is growing and getting stronger with each new member. (giggity)

Picard comes from one of the safest time in Federation history. Starfleet is almost all powerful (until the Borg) and not really threaten by anything so Picard has the luxury of his ethos and his morality, hence the comfort of the Enterprise-D. Hell they bring whole families along with them they feel so damn secure and Picard's attitude matches that perfectly. On the plus side we do get to see Picard deal with the threats that awaken, both galactic and personal so he's got a lot more growth as a character then any other captain.

Sisko is a dude on the frontier trying to deal with crazy ass religious nuts, evil semi-Nazi's and rebels. Well at least until the war starts. Sisko is more akin to a sheriff then a ship captain and acts as such. Sometimes pushing the law sometimes looking the other way so shit gets done. Sisko doesn't have Picard's luxury or power. He's often forced to make due with what allies and tools he has, this is contrasted in several episodes directly.

Janeway is Janeway. Rules do not apply to her. If your in her way your either run or die.
 
Ultraman Orb Dark said:
It reminds me of how much Enterprise tried to appeal to 2000s audiences by increasing the T&A.
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And did it in the most boring way possible. Decontamination scenes dragged on for so long because they didn't want to talk in them. If these were Orville characters in these scenes, we'd get some charm and characterization in them.
 
Sweeter and Savoury said:
I won't discuss the psychopathic genocide machine that takes the form of a the human female known as Janeway.
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Sweeter and Savoury said:
Janeway is Janeway. Rules do not apply to her. If your in her way your either run or die.
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Okay what the fuck am I missing, what have I forgotten about Voyager and Janeway in the last 25 years? Because I know I watched a ton of Voyager as a sprog, and while I do remember her being a stone-cold bitch, I don't remember her being a space murderhobo.
 
Mr. Racewar1488 said:
I watched the newest episode of Starfleet Academy and there isn't anything worth screenshotting. There's a locker room scene where the jock character talks about fucking a dude and the dude's two sisters. Everyone is in their underwear and the chicks are either a carpenter's dream, flat as a board and easy to screw, or ham planets. Tig Nataro and the Jemmie/Klingon hybrid are scissoring. Is Quentin Tarantino directing episode because Holly Hunter's feet were on full display. Gross. It's boring and barely worth mocking.
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Jesus Christ...
 
there are so many jokes to make about this shot, I don't know where to begin.
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for some reason, I'm picturing George Lucas in the documentaries about the making of the prequel trilogy, pointing to this on a monitor and telling Rick McCallum, "Well, you see, a spoonful of sugar helps the medicine go down. That's what I hear, anyway."
 
Lurkerish Kandor said:
Okay what the fuck am I missing, what have I forgotten about Voyager and Janeway in the last 25 years? Because I know I watched a ton of Voyager as a sprog, and while I do remember her being a stone-cold bitch, I don't remember her being a space murderhobo.
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I assume what those people mean is: Janeway strands her entire crew in the Delta Quadrant to, I dunno, arrest some Maquis guys in a space Honda Civic. Which kills 13 people immediately. Then she decides to bail the Borg out when Species 8472 is about to vaporize them.

They wanted her to be morally complex, but the situations are never serious enough. She should’ve just been Picard. Just do speeches. Drink wine.
 
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