Star Trek - Space: The Final Frontier

[Captain Syrup]

Just finished watching Menage a Troi and I both love and hate this episode.
It's great because it's the first time that Lwaxana really gets an episode to herself and I just adore her character. She's fantastic in TNG and it was so lovely to see her show up in DS9 where I feel they really expanded on her character.
Just a really fun episode with Lwaxana and Deanna bouncing off the Ferengi, it's great.
Then it all ends with this hideous Wesley subplot where the ghost of Roddenberry was clearly blowing himself. Wesley is so much better in season 3 than he was in 1 and 2 but I still absolutely hate him.

Ferengi is like “women shouldn’t wear clothes!!" and then immediately pivots to trying to sell Troi and her mom to Ethan Phillips.



It’s insane that’s a real plot.

Yep, there’s a Wesley B-story which my brain has memory-holed. My brain did me a favor. He was on the show for seven years and I remember like three things, the cave one with Picard where he hits his head. Then there’s the Red Squad one which I only remember because of the other actors (Wesley’s own episode and he’s the least interesting thing in it). And of course the Traveler episode where that nonce shows up and is like “this boy is the Mozart of Starfleet! He’s too powerful, he thinks in math!"



Psych, Wesley turns into a space wizard and leaves, which makes everything before it feel pointless.

 

[Mussolini’s Merkin]

Marina Sirtis is more useful in The Orville than the entirety of Star Trek. I still can't believe she got raped in Star Trek twice. Sirtis is such a good actress and she was wasted on TNG.

One thing I really, really like about The Orville is how they do the old memba' berries.
Sirtis was great in it, just close enough to her TNG character that it was very 'wink-wink, nudge-nudge'. Then Dr. Phlox shows up and he's a crazy murderer and it's even better, let Billingsley show a bit more range.
The Orville was far better than it had a right to be.

 

[Hey Johnny Bravo]

Don't get me started on why a Russian scientist would be wearing an East German field coat.

The GDR had drip.

 

[Fatsuit Shinji]

No point being evil if you don't have drip. Something Gen X and younger generations have forgotten.

 

[Mr. Racewar1488]

Who the fuck approved this poster for Voyager?

I was looking up an actor that looked familiar in an episode of SG1 and of course he was in Voyager. But look at this poster! Everyone is serious except for fucking Neelix doing a fucking soyjack next to Kes's tits.

 

[Meriasek]

Jon Bernthal could do an interesting psychotically militant Khan I think. None of the augments we see in the series are really physically intimidating so it would be an interesting change.

I could see Henry Cavill do a decent augment, being all charming and refined while also being a physical specimen.

 

[Xev]

Who the fuck approved this poster for Voyager?
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I was looking up an actor that looked familiar in an episode of SG1 and of course he was in Voyager. But look at this poster! Everyone is serious except for fucking Neelix doing a fucking soyjack next to Kes's tits.

Give the guy a break, he's just trying to cheer up his child bride.

 

[Gay Sex Enjoyer]

Got a free Ent E today

 

[Gay Sex Enjoyer]

Everyone is serious except for fucking Neelix doing a fucking soyjack next to Kes's tits.

 

[XYZpdq Jr.]

as the Baron is like casting John Goodman.

ngl I'm pretty sure my wife and I thought it was him at first when we saw it

I don’t think Lynch fully read the book either, so he turns everything into caricatures.

Smithee Lynch Dune is people quoting Dune at each other, SciFi Euro Dune makes it work as dialog
but yeah the core issue is still there that the further you get from Frank's prose it falls apart

 

[Hunter Hearst Helmsley]

Who the fuck approved this poster for Voyager?
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I was looking up an actor that looked familiar in an episode of SG1 and of course he was in Voyager. But look at this poster! Everyone is serious except for fucking Neelix doing a fucking soyjack next to Kes's tits.

I dunno, it's weird in general. Paris is shooting me. The doc has a butt plug.

 

[Captain Syrup]

Give the guy a break, he's just trying to cheer up his child bride.

One of the biggest unforced errors in TV history: Kes' claim that she hasn't hit puberty.

 

[Dragged Into Sunlight]

Marina Sirtis is more useful in The Orville than the entirety of Star Trek. I still can't believe she got raped in Star Trek twice. Sirtis is such a good actress and she was wasted on TNG.

We needed far more Reg and Deanna episodes than we got.

 

[Miller]

Who the fuck approved this poster for Voyager?
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I was looking up an actor that looked familiar in an episode of SG1 and of course he was in Voyager. But look at this poster! Everyone is serious except for fucking Neelix doing a fucking soyjack next to Kes's tits.

>when Neelix sees a minor

Russian scientist Troy on SG1 is better than TNG Troy. She does things and is competent at repairing a submarine.
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Don't get me started on why a Russian scientist would be wearing an East German field coat.

I watched that episode the other day, lol

 

[Captain Syrup]

We needed far more Reg and Deanna episodes than we got.h

Hang on, I don’t think we’ve sufficiently communicated that Reg is a turbo incel. We need a visual cue.

 

[Gay Sex Enjoyer]

Smithee Lynch Dune is people quoting Dune at each other, SciFi Euro Dune makes it work as dialog
but yeah the core issue is still there that the further you get from Frank's prose it falls apart

I feel like some things are simply unadaptable due to sheer depth and scope.

 

[XYZpdq Jr.]

I feel like some things are simply unadaptable due to sheer depth and scope.

Sci-fi makes a good case for it being able to mostly work until God Emperor, but yeah it's downright funny how they could completely miss the point of GEOD while perfectly getting the action parts of the book right

 

[Flexo]

Sci-fi makes a good case for it being able to mostly work until God Emperor, but yeah it's downright funny how they could completely miss the point of GEOD while perfectly getting the action parts of the book right

What do you mean? God Emperor had a perfectly good adaption.

 

[Ultraman Orb Dark]

I feel like some things are simply unadaptable due to sheer depth and scope.

A good example is the Animorphs show. They just did not have the budget to do a lot of stuff shown in the books due to the animals they would need to train.

 

[Meriasek]

Sci-fi makes a good case for it being able to mostly work until God Emperor, but yeah it's downright funny how they could completely miss the point of GEOD while perfectly getting the action parts of the book right

Did they do GEOD? Thought they just did Dune Messiah and Children of Dune in the second series.