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I'll let Troi still being a shitty counselor slide because frankly, if she suddenly became super competent I'd feel like they were trying too hard. I'm fine with her being crap at her job as long as Marina doesn't look like she wants to die every time she is on-screen because they don't give her anything of importance to do.
I would have just had her bring up the "Data is the most human being I have ever met." It lets her do something useful while still being shit at her job because she stole it (from Tasha Yar..who stole it from Kirk)
 
From the mid-00ies to a few years ago four of the five branches of the U.S. Military was changing the uniforms every couple of years in a Mother Of All Dick measuring contests between the Brass fashionistas.
Hilariously, the whole debacle may have inadvertently been kicked off by the Canadians of all people, when the Canadian Forces unveiled their innovative digitized CADPAT camouflage uniform in the late 90s. The United States Marines liked what they saw, and applied for and received a license from the CF to replicate the pattern (with an added, digitized EGA worked in) in a different color-scheme, but then refused to share it with by-now similarly interested U.S. Army (the Marines having a longstanding institutional loathing of having to share uniforms with other services). This lead to the Army applying an unlicensed, grayed-out "universal" version of the CADPAT pattern to their new Army Combat Uniform, or ACU, in 2003, which was widely derided by soldiers as the "I See You" for its inability to provide adequate concealment outside of a granite quarry. The Canadian Forces may have subtly thrown shade at the Army for this by eventually introducing a new uniform of their own some years later, using the original CADPAT camo combined with the cut of the ACU, and calling the whole thing the "Improved Combat Uniform," or ICU...

For shits and giggles would have love to see a pre-Abrams Star Trek version of this former April's Fools promo.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=EFDg-gWPz1I
LOL

I now imagine an alternate universe where Wil Wheaton actually grew up into that.
I blame that pedo-faced weirdo "The Traveller," personally. Whatever happened on their "journey" together must have severely fucked up Wesley's maturation process, because his parents are so Chad and Stacey it's almost comical:

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The virgin irl Wil Wheaton vs. the Chad Adult Wesley.
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My main complaint with ST:P is that the Romulans aren't acting subtle. Fine, OK, I can buy that the Federation changes in the past 20 years or so. I can buy that Picard is angry that the UFP pulled back their Romulan evac fleet because a planet in their capital system got asploded for some reason. But the Romulans? These are Romulans who are presumably the agents of the Romulan government, aboard what is presumably a space relic administered by the Federation but run by Romulans, and this weird dumb woman decides to kill a bunch of ex-Borgs in front of the Director and oh yeah, kill the Director as well. Just ride your brother already and get rid of all your retarded tension lady, you'll be better off for it.

My other complaint, not so main, is that you could have made 26 episode seasons out of Discovery and Picard easily. Or 13 episodes. Firefly had 13 (aired) episodes and you still got some episodes that focused on the members of the cast who weren't Mal and River. Wouldn't you like to have seen an episode focusing on Raffi instead of about 10 minutes in total about her character? Why did Rios have a bit of metal in his shoulder when Picard met him? Flashback episode centered on Maddox and cyberneticist thot? Hell, maybe a throwaway comedy episode about the crew visiting Risa to relax before they went on the next leg of their journey? Or whatever's in the tie-in comics and books. Wouldn't those have all been good ideas to put in the series? A whole flashback episode set during the Romulan evacuation when Picard finds out that the shit's hit the fan?

I don't like how some autistic dumbass on a New Zealand fruit picking forum has better ideas than those who are supposed to write for this trash series in trashworld.
 
star fleet, as much UN blue helm as they might be, are still military with it's structure and requirements. can you imagine anyone of those lardasses fight against aliens that want to start some shit? it's just another aspect where nutrek writing doesn't make a lick of sense, it's literal soiboi fantasy at this point.
NuTrek to Classic Trek:

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My other complaint, not so main, is that you could have made 26 episode seasons out of Discovery and Picard easily. Or 13 episodes. Firefly had 13 (aired) episodes and you still got some episodes that focused on the members of the cast who weren't Mal and River.
Indeed. I thought that they would learn from the mistakes made in STD but STP seems to go down the same road. No character development for the new cast and yet they expect you to root for them. Sorry but I don't care about any of them, Raffi is unlikable (I actually cared more about his son than her) and she doesn't seem to want to stop drinking and vaping space weed. Like I said in a previous post, having characters with flaws is good but Raffi doesn't work as a character, you can't have empathy for her like you would for Saul Tigh, Mr Garibaldi from B5 or Colonel Young from SGU. I wanted to like the Romulan Elrond but they turned him into a comic relief who "ninja" his way into the plot. I would have liked to hear more about his past, how he was raised by the warrior nuns, the struggle as the only male, etc.
It has been 6 episodes and we know nothing about Rios or even Maddox who was the big MacGuffin for 4 episodes and once he died the writers just moved on to another MacGuffin. Even the crew of the not-Rocinante wasn't affected by his death (except for the doctor). On any other show like that with an ongoing plot would deal with the consequences from a previous episode but not in STP, they just move on.
Also where is the Federation? Where are their ships?
 
Indeed. I thought that they would learn from the mistakes made in STD but STP seems to go down the same road. No character development for the new cast and yet they expect you to root for them. Sorry but I don't care about any of them, Raffi is unlikable (I actually cared more about his son than her) and she doesn't seem to want to stop drinking and vaping space weed. Like I said in a previous post, having characters with flaws is good but Raffi doesn't work as a character, you can't have empathy for her like you would for Saul Tigh, Mr Garibaldi from B5 or Colonel Young from SGU. I wanted to like the Romulan Elrond but they turned him into a comic relief who "ninja" his way into the plot. I would have liked to hear more about his past, how he was raised by the warrior nuns, the struggle as the only male, etc.
It has been 6 episodes and we know nothing about Rios or even Maddox who was the big MacGuffin for 4 episodes and once he died the writers just moved on to another MacGuffin. Even the crew of the not-Rocinante wasn't affected by his death (except for the doctor). On any other show like that with an ongoing plot would deal with the consequences from a previous episode but not in STP, they just move on.
Also where is the Federation? Where are their ships?

Garibaldi gave me the impression that the writers (mainly JMS) actually understood addiction on a personal level.

Raffi gives me the impression that the writers understanding of addiction is limited to what they've seen on TV.
 
The most important point to bring up is Picard. He actually felt like Picard in this episode. Troi even tells him at one point he needs to be the real him, the gentle diplomat, and man, it was such a take that at nuPicard. I don't know who the fuck wrote this episode, but they did a good job.
It was really weird, like if it was shot at the last minute. The daughter who happens to know a guy in Starfleet who texted her back the exact planet that Picard and Soji were looking for... really?
The C-plot with Elrond made no sense, he should have been killed by Romulan Cersei.
 
It was really weird, like if it was shot at the last minute. The daughter who happens to know a guy in Starfleet who texted her back the exact planet that Picard and Soji were looking for... really?
That was such an odd bit. It was on the verge of working as having the kid being really good at Space Google on her Space Phone while all the old folks wring their hands, then it got ruined with "oh, some dude knew where it was."
 
Notice how the only parts people loved about the last episode involved the old TNG cast. Continuity issues aside, it did feel as if it was made by TNG fans.

Heck Riker seems like he belongs in a different show. It was a welcome surprise that he was portrayed as a smart, brave, and competent despite being a - gasp- white male.

But in particular, notice how he told Picard to ask Starfleet for help? That also felt out of place. Remember that only makes sense in TNG, but on this show, the federation is supposed to be an evil and racist institution that hates Picard.

I want to believe Jonathan Frakes gave as a condition of his return that they didn't ruin his character.
 
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>tfw Jonathan "Thunderbirds" Frakes is the only person left willing to stick up for a franchise
makes me want to awkwardly step over the back of a chair instead of sitting normally
 
I just finished watching Season 2 Episode 2 of the Orville for the first time, and... Ok, forget about this show previously making me actually care about the cheating whore XO, (which I *still* do, for what it's worth) despite her, *frankly correct*, assertion that she shouldn't be dating her commanding officer, when by the same logic she shouldn't even be staying under his command- Ed still *clearly* loves her, and he would obviously still favor her if he had to choose between ordering her or an otherwise equally qualified officer to go on a suicide mission, regardless of whether the two are dating or not. But...
This episode made me actually care about the *literal* gay couple on the show (Bortus and Klyden) when I had previously been mostly indifferent to them.. I now care about both of them even...

Important side note... when I first started writing this post, I also started watching the next episode... and that episode ended up being "The Doctor" (From Voyager) vs Doctor Phlox (from Enterprise). The people writing this *clearly* love good Star Trek... Why the hell hasn't this show gotten its 3rd season yet?
 
I just finished watching Season 2 Episode 2 of the Orville for the first time, and... Ok, forget about this show previously making me actually care about the cheating whore XO, (which I *still* do, for what it's worth) despite her, *frankly correct*, assertion that she shouldn't be dating her commanding officer, when by the same logic she shouldn't even be staying under his command- Ed still *clearly* loves her, and he would obviously still favor her if he had to choose between ordering her or an otherwise equally qualified officer to go on a suicide mission, regardless of whether the two are dating or not. But...
This episode made me actually care about the *literal* gay couple on the show (Bortus and Klyden) when I had previously been mostly indifferent to them.. I now care about both of them even...

Important side note... when I first started writing this post, I also started watching the next episode... and that episode ended up being "The Doctor" (From Voyager) vs Doctor Phlox (from Enterprise). The people writing this *clearly* love good Star Trek... Why the hell hasn't this show gotten its 3rd season yet?
The third season is going to be Hulu exclusive in late 2020, because it wasn’t gonna be ready for a mid-season premiere on Fox.
 
I don't like how some autistic dumbass on a New Zealand fruit picking forum has better ideas than those who are supposed to write for this trash series in trashworld.

welcome to modern hollywood for the last decade or so. least STD started end of 2017. imagine being mildly interested in star wars...

The people writing this *clearly* love good Star Trek... Why the hell hasn't this show gotten its 3rd season yet?

interestingly, farlane even manages to pull in people you'd hardly ever see in a tv series. like liam fucking neeson at the end of a trek af episode or charlize theron.
if you look at the credits they also have quite a few ST writers and former actors as director. gonna have to rewatch the episodes by the family guy writers, would be hilarious if a frigging family guy writer on a side gig shits over actual nutrek writing.

before picard I remember me and a few people were hoping farlane manages to get stewart as an admiral cameo or something since he knows him already from american dad as the ultimate fuck you, but seeing how it turned out with him on picard it might be for the best...
 
The chick who got a job on the Orville by banging Seth, and got fired when they broke up, wasn't that good of actress... but I actually liked Alara. So far, I'm not a fan of her replacement.
 
Alara actress had signed on to be another show when the question of whether the Orville was getting a second season was still unanswered.
The Orville was renewed for a second season while the first was still airing.

Actors typically sign on for 6 years to ensure that the cast can't leave. There's usually a date by which the show has to be renewed after which they are free to pursue other projects. Yahoo picked up a 6th season of Community the day the cast's contracts were due to expire.

It is as UnKillFill said, she was dating Seth, they broke up and either Seth fired her or she asked to be let go.
 
I just had a weird random thought.
I know The Orville doesn't have transporters, but if they had an equivalent episode to Voyager's "Tuvix"... Which two characters do you guys think would be the most interesting to merge?

My initial thoughts are Gordon and Bortus. Maybe LaMarr and still Bortus.
 
I just had a weird random thought.
I know The Orville doesn't have transporters, but if they had an equivalent episode to Voyager's "Tuvix"... Which two characters do you guys think would be the most interesting to merge?

My initial thoughts are Gordon and Bortus. Maybe LaMarr and still Bortus.
Bortus and the norm McDonald slime guy.
 
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