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The captain of the USS Saratoga from Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home was a black woman.
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Now, if I remember correctly, wasn't the insane woman the only person in the episode claiming women couldn't be captains? No one else confirms nor denies it, they just look at her with pity (since, ya know, she's nuts). Considering The Cage was canon, it would seem kinda silly to have Number One be the first officer on the Enterprise but then be literally cockblocked from becoming a Captain. Why let her get that far in the first place then, you know?
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Her only quote about this to kirk was "your world of starship captains doesnt admit women" which is vague enough to be spun as something along the lines of "you being starship captain meant you never had time for me" even before you factor in her insanity, which is given extra credence with the continuation of this exchange
So im happy to chalk it up to her being salty he never settled down with her or had her as an on-board girlfriend or wife. Fits in with her clingy psycho character, and fits in with the lore of the show before and after this crappy episode.
Lets just be happy it delivered us some of the finest shatner ham on record
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Any Scotty episode is a good episode IMHO
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Shatner's acting is so up and down on TOS. Some episodes he knocks it out of the park, other times it's just plain silly, and it only got more apparent as the show went on. The first season he largely did okay but then you get into the second season and it starts to become inconsistent.
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My mom told me this story when we used to watch it together when I was younger. That Voyager hammered in that "Janeway was the first female captain"; disregarding STD and its fanfiction level writing, it was already a plothole because TNG confirmed that wasn't the case first. Hell, there were female captains shown as far back as The Voyage Home, if I recall.
I put Voyager at blame; it seems like it was trying to inject itself as the first and retcon the past.... a lot like STD now. So, I can definitely see the seeds of shit taking root with that series.
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Here's some silliness.
Admiral Picard, in the 25th century, having travelled into the far reaches of space and communicated with hundreds of species across distant worlds, cannot fathom the idea of a transmission coming from somewhere other than Earth.
Admiral Picard, in the 25th century, having travelled into the far reaches of space and communicated with hundreds of species across distant worlds, cannot fathom the idea of a transmission coming from somewhere other than Earth.
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My interpretation of this was Janeway was the first female captain - as the lead of a star trek TV show IRL. Going back to the TNG episode "Yesterday's Enterprise", we find historical evidence going back decades before TNG for female captains in-universe.
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>mfw I see another fucking Major Grin video about the rape of Star Trek
Not even kidding, his "Picard's Evil Frenchman Routine" video legitimately hurt my soul worse than all the testicle inflation videos I watched to research my shitposting on the CBT thread. Jesus fucking christ im not even a hardcore trek autist, im a fuckin casual who got into the series by freakin SFdebris reviews, and even I can tell how much of a goddamn travesty nu-trek is
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The script of the episode demanded that Shatner take it beyond 11.
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Jesus fucking christ....old video but god damn I never saw these behind the scenes clips of kuntzman and co smugging it up over how they are "finally humanising the klingons and showing them to not always be the bad guys for the first time in the franchise"
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I like the part with the guy who redesigned the bat'leth, he clearly doesn't understand how weapons work in real life.
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And most were solid because they were classically trained and knowledgeable of history. They knew how to make historical and Shakesperean parallels in their outlines.
Unlike the STD/Picard writers who were all 100% Twitter trained.
Watching Shat play a deranged woman was one of the highlights of the series.
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it was the first major female captain leading the series tho, so it's not entirely wrong. there's also the usual PR spin. imo it's the intent that matters, back then they just wanted to sell trek. now they want to sell shit with an agenda.
reminds me of a friend of mine, thinks himself of a cinephile ("if the movie is rated high it must be good"), hates capeshit due to how "unrealistic" it is but then thinks TLJ is "ok" and picard "is good". remember pointing out palpatine wins in TROS but "that's totally not the same" (and of course paid to watch it in theater). I think I really should have used a voldemort analogy at that point...
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Yeah from the clips i have seen of him he is the closest thing to an old time Trek captain and seems to have a pretty decent spin on the character....its just that when forced into the autistic edgelord smugfest of nu-trek he cant do much but flounder. Its a bit like Graham Chapman's King Arthur in Monty Python and the Holy Grail, being a straight faced portrayal of a character who just happens to exist in a universe built on farce and absurdity, but with the natural comedy of such a premise being replaced by soul grinding disappointment at seeing a decent performance of an important charcter utterly wasted for sub-fanfic trash.
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Jesus Christ, it's like that faggot knows literally nothing about weapons, even enough to give that abomination a few swings and realize that it'd be an absolutely useless fucking weapon that would, realistically, be more dangerous to the wielder than to the opposition.
