Star Trek - Space: The Final Frontier

[Honka Honka Burning Love]

What does it say about current gen Star Trek (if not media in general), when the best thing I can hope for is that RLM posts their video on the Picard Finale soon.
Gosh, I remember back in the day, when fun things were fun.

I don't think they are doing a Picard Finale Re:View, I think that last episode was bad enough they are going full on Plinket now.

 

[BScCollateral]

...I have to say the Andorians are hilarious. Every time the SFX guys make their little antenna wiggle around I start hooting with laughter. It's the dumbest and most adorable thing ever.

Yesteryear is an animated episode which has a small, yet effective role for an Andorian.

The story is that owing to timey-wimey stuff, an alternate timeline is created where Spock died as a child, leading to his parents divorcing, and his mother's death in an accident while returning to Earth. The "New" First Officer of the Enterprise is an Andorian, Commander Thelin.

Spock and Kirk naturally want to "fix" the timeline. Commander Thelin might logically object to this: it's not exactly a "Keep Hitler from winning WWII" situation. But instead, Thelin accepts the necessity of changing the universe so he'll be relegated to God knows what (Obviously Spock and Kirk have no idea what Thelin was up to in their own timeline), because Spock will save his own mother's life and Thelin accepts Spock must do it, and it would be wrong to prevent it.

I always thought it was a shame they didn't go into this more deeply.

 

[XYZpdq]

Yesteryear is an animated episode which has a small, yet effective role for an Andorian.

The story is that owing to timey-wimey stuff, an alternate timeline is created where Spock died as a child, leading to his parents divorcing, and his mother's death in an accident while returning to Earth. The "New" First Officer of the Enterprise is an Andorian, Commander Thelin.

Spock and Kirk naturally want to "fix" the timeline. Commander Thelin might logically object to this: it's not exactly a "Keep Hitler from winning WWII" situation. But instead, Thelin accepts the necessity of changing the universe so he'll be relegated to God knows what (Obviously Spock and Kirk have no idea what Thelin was up to in their own timeline), because Spock will save his own mother's life and Thelin accepts Spock must do it, and it would be wrong to prevent it.

I always thought it was a shame they didn't go into this more deeply.

Seriously that episode alone justifies the entire TAS production existing even if some of the other ones can be rough around the edges.

 

[Cyril Sneer]

Didn't even realize that Worf was played by a black actor until this episode.

Any excuse to post this...

How much shoe polish did you think they went through each season to cover his face then?

About the same as they did with Robert O'Reilly?

 

[BIG BILL HELL'S]

About the same as they did with Robert O'Reilly?

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Or John Tesh!

 

[XYZpdq]

Any excuse to post this...

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About the same as they did with Robert O'Reilly?

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Yeah I'm not super well versed in tv/film makeup but I think that might be just as much heavy foundation on both of them, like you could probably throw that same pile of foundation that Dorn's wearing onto an albino and get similar results.

 

[UnKillFill]

Didn't even realize that Worf was played by a black actor until this episode.

That's funny. Back in the day I thought that *all* of the TNG era Klingons were played by black people.

About the same as they did with Robert O'Reilly?

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Heh, I even thought that Gowron was played by a black man at the time. (I would have been younger than 10 when I thought this.)

Even funnier, due to the way I was introduced to Trek, I was watching episodes of both TNG and DS9 all at the same time, and definitely not in order. (This was in the days before being able to easily binge television shows.)
As a result, I distinctly remember thinking that the "Worf" on TNG and the "Worf" on DS9 were two entirely different characters, despite them both looking similar and having the same name (and being played by the same actor), because how could he be in two places at once? I distinctly remember thinking "every Star Trek has a Worf."

And no, I hadn't seen Star Trek: VI and Colonel Worf at the time... So I don't even have that excuse. >_<

 

[rabo]

Here is Robert O'Reilly (Gowron) appearing sans make-up for the DS9 Holodeck episode "Bada Bing Bada Boom"

"That's the saddest thing I ever 'hoid""
Trying to lay on that Irish Mobster accent.

 

[Overly Serious]

That's funny. Back in the day I thought that *all* of the TNG era Klingons were played by black people.

Heh, I even thought that Gowron was played by a black man at the time. (I would have been younger than 10 when I thought this.)

Even funnier, due to the way I was introduced to Trek, I was watching episodes of both TNG and DS9 all at the same time, and definitely not in order. (This was in the days before being able to easily binge television shows.)
As a result, I distinctly remember thinking that the "Worf" on TNG and the "Worf" on DS9 were two entirely different characters, despite them both looking similar and having the same name (and being played by the same actor), because how could he be in two places at once? I distinctly remember thinking "every Star Trek has a Worf."

And no, I hadn't seen Star Trek: VI and Colonel Worf at the time... So I don't even have that excuse. >_<

I have the opposite problem. I'm working my way through Enterprise (may have mentioned that) and that shape-changer alien from DS9 keeps showing up as different characters. And I keep trying to work out if they're just re-using the actor or if this is some long-game ploy and they're going to spring a time travel episode or something on me where Odo (his names, Odo, right?) keeps turning into different people at different points in time. I've seen like two episodes of DS9 back when it came out but the actor is so distinctive.

 

[rabo]

I have the opposite problem. I'm working my way through Enterprise (may have mentioned that) and that shape-changer alien from DS9 keeps showing up as different characters. And I keep trying to work out if they're just re-using the actor or if this is some long-game ploy and they're going to spring a time travel episode or something on me where Odo (his names, Odo, right?) keeps turning into different people at different points in time. I've seen like two episodes of DS9 back when it came out but the actor is so distinctive.

Yeah, no. Odo was nothing but a mass of goo drifting the galaxy at that point, or possibly unborn. It's not clear.

RIP Rene Auberjonois

 

[Dr. Sexbot]

I have the opposite problem. I'm working my way through Enterprise (may have mentioned that) and that shape-changer alien from DS9 keeps showing up as different characters. And I keep trying to work out if they're just re-using the actor or if this is some long-game ploy and they're going to spring a time travel episode or something on me where Odo (his names, Odo, right?) keeps turning into different people at different points in time. I've seen like two episodes of DS9 back when it came out but the actor is so distinctive.

Nah, it's two separate races of shapeshifters. DS9s were the Founders aka Changelings, not the green guys from ENT (the Suliban race, no other mention of them outside of Enterprise). Different actors, too.

Now whether the changelings mentioned in TOS were the same race as Odo, I'm not sure if they've ever answered that. So that might be a 3rd race of shapeshifters.

Though if they were truly shapeshifters, how would you know for sure?

 

[rabo]

Nah, it's two separate races of shapeshifters. DS9s were the Founders aka Changelings, not the green guys from ENT (the Suliban race, no other mention of them outside of Enterprise). Different actors, too.

Now whether the changelings mentioned in TOS were the same race as Odo, I'm not sure if they've ever answered that. So that might be a 3rd race of shapeshifters.

Though if they were truly shapeshifters, how would you know for sure?

No he's referring to the fact that Rene Auberjonois makes a guest appearance in several episode as a different character.

 

[Overly Serious]

No he's referring to the fact that Rene Auberjonois makes a guest appearance in several episode as a different character.
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Yep. I don't know DS9 well but the moment he appeared I was like: "That's the shapeshifter guy". Spent half the episode wondering if it was a cross-over of some kind and if in the end he was going to walk away and turn into someone else once he was out of sight.

Good actor, mind. But hard to mistake.

 

[Flexo]

Yep. I don't know DS9 well but the moment he appeared I was like: "That's the shapeshifter guy". Spent half the episode wondering if it was a cross-over of some kind and if in the end he was going to walk away and turn into someone else once he was out of sight.

Good actor, mind. But hard to mistake.

Just assume it's reusing the actor. Trek loves to do that. (See my previous kurtwood smith meme.) Heck Rene played an assassin wearing a disguise in Trek 6.

Bonus.

 

[Twitter Hate Mob]

In the space of one page I've learned that my dumb assumption that most of the actors cast as Klingons are black was wrong and that Odo is fucking dead. This is the worst page of any thread that isn't specifically about Furry art

 

[2Spicy4ThePepper]

Avery Brooks was a white guy in blackface the whole time too. Star Trek got away with a lot before the SJWs cleaned everything up.

 

[Tookie]

In the space of one page I've learned that my dumb assumption that most of the actors cast as Klingons are black

I have some bad news for you about General Martok too.

 

[Flexo]

I have some bad news for you about General Martok too.
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you sure he's still not in klingon makeup? That hat could cover up the forehead ridges.

(no joke, they should have let Martok where a kick ass hat and smoke a cigar - just to prove that yes, he can somehow become more badass)

 

[UnKillFill]

I have the opposite problem. I'm working my way through Enterprise (may have mentioned that) and that shape-changer alien from DS9 keeps showing up as different characters. And I keep trying to work out if they're just re-using the actor or if this is some long-game ploy and they're going to spring a time travel episode or something on me where Odo (his names, Odo, right?) keeps turning into different people at different points in time. I've seen like two episodes of DS9 back when it came out but the actor is so distinctive.

That reminds me of a bonkers theory I heard a while back where all the various Trek characters that Jefrey Combs has played over the years are either a founder spy, or Weyoun himself.

 

[rabo]

I have some bad news for you about General Martok too.
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Oh damn you. For a minute I thought you were saying that J.G. Hertzler was dead!

That reminds me of a bonkers theory I heard a while back where all the various Trek characters that Jefrey Combs has played over the years are either a founder spy, or Weyoun himself.
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Jeff Combs looked like he was enjoying himself so much on Star Trek, regardless of the role.