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Zaryiu said:
I posted something better 10 posts above
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yeah, hit reply not noticing there was already a new page up, my bad.
still, that one doesn't really do it for me either. it's certainly better, but still kinda... low energy? but then I was never really that bothered by a star trek series not having a "star trek" intro, when for the first two season enterprise didn't even have the star trek moniker. might just be semantics, but as said before, enterprise isn't really like the other treks with being a prequel etc, the most apt comparison would probably be low vs high fantasy if you know what I mean, there's no starfleet, no big organization with established rules and procedures - it's a new frontier where you had to deal what came along and make shit up on the fly, so "trek to the stars" in the sense roddenberry had in the beginning (or claimed he had). from that POV it's not that unfitting, certainly less than people got their panties in a twist back then (which in hindsight was kinda disingenuous anyway complaining IT'S NOT LIKE THE OTHER THEMES IT SUCKS, but right afterwards screeching IT'S NOT LIKE THE OTHER TREKS IT SUCKS I'M NOT GONNA WATCH IT to the point it got canceled. make up your fucking minds).

the later more upbeat version is pure crap tho, no question about it.

SteelPlatedHeart said:
Is the new Star Trek still ripping off bad Mass Effect stuff?
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thought about it for a second and then realized I don't really care anymore. since kurtzman and his merry band of hacks can't even rip off properly, I don't wanna even see what dogshit they come up with on their own.
 
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SteelPlatedHeart said:
Is the new Star Trek still ripping off bad Mass Effect stuff?
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Now they're ripping-off BSG (Burnham hears a strange music) and the first season of Picard.
It's been 6 episodes so far and they still have not explained the "Burn". After more than a hundred years (in universe) the people in that future have not even tried to understand what happened but it's ok, Burnham is here.
 
Miller said:
Now they're ripping-off BSG (Burnham hears a strange music) and the first season of Picard.
It's been 6 episodes so far and they still have not explained the "Burn". After more than a hundred years (in universe) the people in that future have not even tried to understand what happened but it's ok, Burnham is here.
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How much are they ripping off Andromeda?
 
Flexo said:
How much are they ripping off Andromeda?
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Pretty much completely. The main difference being there is a semblance of Starfleet left instead of being entirely gone (though I could be misremembering Andromeda). They are even hinting at the ship becoming a sentient character.
 
Tookie said:
Pretty much completely. The main difference being there is a semblance of Starfleet left instead of being entirely gone (though I could be misremembering Andromeda). They are even hinting at the ship becoming a sentient character.
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Well if the ship gets played be Lexa Doig that might all be worth it...

FYI, it was a plot of the week a few times (or maybe just once) that the crew would come across old remnants of the commonwealth here and there.

Oh wait! It was episode 3.
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And in season 2.
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So stopping my skimming, it looks like the original show would do about 1 episode like that once a season or so.
 
One thing that bothers me on Discovery is that none of these characters seem to have a sense of adventure. They've been catapulted 1000 years into the future with all kinds of new technology and history to explore and they seem to spend all their time crying and moping around. The Voyager crew got the fuck on with their jobs. I would expect some moments of somber reflection but for the most part excitement at new horizons. They have the personalities of fragile Buzzfeed bloggers instead of elite astronauts from the future.
 
Tookie said:
One thing that bothers me on Discovery is that none of these characters seem to have a sense of adventure. They've been catapulted 1000 years into the future with all kinds of new technology and history to explore and they seem to spend all their time crying and moping around. The Voyager crew got the fuck on with their jobs. I would expect some moments of somber reflection but for the most part excitement at new horizons. They have the personalities of fragile Buzzfeed bloggers instead of elite astronauts from the future.
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I mean, ending up hundreds of years in the future and realizing that anyone and anything you ever cared about is gone and forgotten does take a toll on people...
But they know how to do time travel, so what is keeping them from just juicing up their time travel device and go back to before the Sports Almanach was stolen?
Given that they spent most of last season cobbling together technobabble devices within minutes to shoot antimater-rays through black holes to create photon-wavefunction-dipsersing supernova collisions to turbo-encabulate their phlebotinum-reactors with the POWER OF MATH... well... going back in time is a pretty mundane thing in comparison. They already had instantaneous travel which made Warp 10 and the Borg's transwarp technology look like neanderthals clashing rocks together, so what's the big deal?

A Bird of Prey slingshotting around the sun was capable of going back in time, Discovery could do the same, by slingshotting around Tilly.
 
RomanesEuntDomus said:
But they know how to do time travel, so what is keeping them from just juicing up their time travel device and go back to before the Sports Almanach was stolen?
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Burnham sent the Iron Man suit back into the wormhole the second she arrived in the future, so they're out of time crystal (although not really since they could get to that Klingorc moon where the time crystals are stored but the writers "kinda forgot" about that).
That said, the whole thing doesn't make sense anyway since the wormhole closed after she sent the Iron Man suit back into it and yet, the Discovery came out of the wormhole a year later.
 
All you really have to answer with when asked “How bad is the current Star Trek?” is “”Iron Man suit”.
 
Miller said:
Burnham sent the Iron Man suit back into the wormhole the second she arrived in the future, so they're out of time crystal (although not really since they could get to that Klingorc moon where the time crystals are stored but the writers "kinda forgot" about that).
That said, the whole thing doesn't make sense anyway since the wormhole closed after she sent the Iron Man suit back into it and yet, the Discovery came out of the wormhole a year later.
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Do you think the Iron Man suit met the Prophets when it went into the wormhole?

Is the Iron Man suit actually the original Emissary?
 
Man, could you imagine a STD where it was revealed Michael was actually Kassidy & Sisko's unborn child?

Then again I've said from the start the show should have been post-Voyager and Tuvok her adoptive papa.
 
RomanesEuntDomus said:
I mean, ending up hundreds of years in the future and realizing that anyone and anything you ever cared about is gone and forgotten does take a toll on people...
But they know how to do time travel, so what is keeping them from just juicing up their time travel device and go back to before the Sports Almanach was stolen?
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Miller said:
Burnham sent the Iron Man suit back into the wormhole the second she arrived in the future, so they're out of time crystal (although not really since they could get to that Klingorc moon where the time crystals are stored but the writers "kinda forgot" about that).
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They're supposedly dragging the Guardian of Forever into this later in the season so get ready for more time travel nonsense.
 
Tookie said:
They're supposedly dragging the Guardian of Forever into this later in the season so get ready for more time travel nonsense.
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What are the odds they make Wesley the new Guardian of Forever and say that’s what he was secretly going off to become?
 
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Tookie said:
They're supposedly dragging the Guardian of Forever into this later in the season so get ready for more time travel nonsense.
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I know they're making another Unification episode with probably Burnham doing a big speech but the Guardian? Are they already out of ideas?
 
Tookie said:
Pretty much completely. The main difference being there is a semblance of Starfleet left instead of being entirely gone (though I could be misremembering Andromeda). They are even hinting at the ship becoming a sentient character.
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You mean like in the Short Treks episode Calypso?
 
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