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Drag-on Knight 91873 said:
It'd be like Worf and Alexander scenes where Worf would try to encourage her to partake in Klingon holidays and then she'd tell him that it's dumb and she doesn't care. Which makes him insist even more.
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I don't think it would be quite like that... Alexander ended up being a fuckup. Torres was probably more Klingon than Alexander was, even though she was only half Klingon, Alexander was 100% Klingon.
 
Drag-on Knight 91873 said:
Torres was also ashamed of her heritage, which is the part that matters.
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Alexander wasn't really ashamed of his heritage, just ignorant of it... Which makes less sense when you realize his mother was a full Klingon.
Edit: Was Alexander's mother half Klingon herself? Sorry it's been a while since I last saw early TNG. That still makes Alexander more Klingon than Torres was though.
 
Quantum Diabetes said:
You mean War Criminal committer of atrocities Admiral Janeway.

Edit: Did Tilly find the extra dimensional stash of Space Twinkies? Jesus she's got to be affecting tides if they orbit at the Lagrange point above any planetary body with oceans.
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Tilly's so fat, the escape velocity at her surface exceeds 3.0x10^8 m/s.
 
UnKillShredDur said:
Alexander wasn't really ashamed of his heritage, just ignorant of it... Which makes less sense when you realize his mother was a full Klingon.
Edit: Was Alexander's mother half Klingon herself? Sorry it's been a while since I last saw early TNG. That still makes Alexander more Klingon than Torres was though.
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Yes, K'Ehleyr was half, which is why her ridges weren't as pronounced, and K'Ehleyr, having studied Klingon culture as the ambassador found it really dumb. Anyways, Torres blamed her fiery temper on her Klingon genes, so seeing Worf act like a try-hard about Klingon rituals would be cringe to her.
 
Drag-on Knight 91873 said:
Yes, K'Ehleyr was half, which is why her ridges weren't as pronounced, and K'Ehleyr, having studied Klingon culture as the ambassador found it really dumb. Anyways, Torres blamed her fiery temper on her Klingon genes, so seeing Worf act like a try-hard about Klingon rituals would be cringe to her.
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I'm not saying that Worf and Torres would be romantically compatible, but I do think they would play off of each other interestingly..
 
Roxann Dawson crushes it. You can tell they were invested in that character in the beginning, since she and Kim work together throughout the pilot to try and get home.

They focused on her immediately after "Caretaker". And there was a nice little character arc running through the first three seasons. She went from a loose cannon to a seasoned professional. The only blip is how Seven overtook her character. (But that's a "blip" a lot of characters have.)
 
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Quantum Diabetes said:
Did Tilly find the extra dimensional stash of Space Twinkies? Jesus she's got to be affecting tides if they orbit at the Lagrange point above any planetary body with oceans.
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I doubt that it's physically possible for the Lagrange point to exist near her girth.
GenociderSyo said:
As with Suder, just how do you deal with mental health that isolated and away from everything.
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It's something Voyager could have explored more:
When you're somewhere in the Alpha quadrant doing regular starfleet shit and one of the crew starts going bonkers, you can just cycle him out of service until he gets his shit back under control at some space resort with counselors helping him... but in Voyager's case, every single crewman is irreplacable and the more specific and difficult to attain their skillset, the bigger the pressure to continue to function at all costs for these people.

Basically, Voyager could have gone for a long-reaching storyarc in the background, where several crewmen are slowly reaching their breaking point and how the crew has to deal with that. Imagine being in Torres' shoes, you're the only high-profile engineer of your abilities, your ship is constantly being harassed by some rubber-face alien weirdos and sparkly space-anomaly stuff and you can never really take a break and if you stop doing your work, your ship and its crew are doomed.
 
Drag-on Knight 91873 said:
Torres was also ashamed of her heritage, which is the part that matters.
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"Barge of the Dead" though kinda made her more invested in that heritage.

RomanesEuntDomus said:
I doubt that it's physically possible for the Lagrange point to exist near her girth.

It's something Voyager could have explored more:
When you're somewhere in the Alpha quadrant doing regular starfleet shit and one of the crew starts going bonkers, you can just cycle him out of service until he gets his shit back under control at some space resort with counselors helping him... but in Voyager's case, every single crewman is irreplacable and the more specific and difficult to attain their skillset, the bigger the pressure to continue to function at all costs for these people.

Basically, Voyager could have gone for a long-reaching storyarc in the background, where several crewmen are slowly reaching their breaking point and how the crew has to deal with that. Imagine being in Torres' shoes, you're the only high-profile engineer of your abilities, your ship is constantly being harassed by some rubber-face alien weirdos and sparkly space-anomaly stuff and you can never really take a break and if you stop doing your work, your ship and its crew are doomed.
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Yep. "Extreme Risk" kind of showed that when they took B'Elanna off duty but then had to be like yea we gotta take you your the only engineer that can do this.

Coulda sworn there was an episode where an unnamed red shirt killed himself. But that may have been DS9.

jennifermist said:
Roxann Dawson crushes it. You can tell they were invested in that character in the beginning, since she and Kim work together throughout the pilot trying to get home.

They focused on her immediately after "Caretaker". And there was a nice little character arc running through the first three seasons. She went from a loose cannon to a laser-focused professional. The only blip is how Seven overtook her character. (But that's a "blip" a lot of characters have.)
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She also was a very nice person at conventions. She made time to join all her fan club members for a meal during any convention she was at. Until the person who ran her fan club ended up being a creeper.
 
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Quantum Diabetes said:
Edit: Did Tilly find the extra dimensional stash of Space Twinkies? Jesus she's got to be affecting tides if they orbit at the Lagrange point above any planetary body with oceans.
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Dunno what you are talking about, she doesnt look much different in the new promotional images for season 4 of STD
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Judge Holden said:
Dunno what you are talking about, she doesnt look much different in the new promotional images for season 4 of STD
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"Damage report!"
"Structural integrity of chair 21-B in the engineering hull is at 3%, captain! I can hardly keep her together! I have erected 7 containment fields, but the energy consumption is outpacing what the warp core can provide! If this goes on for much longer, this will create a hull breach and decks 18 through 25 will be lost! Shall I divert power from life support to strengthen the containment fields?"
"Negative, prepare to eject Officer Tilly."
"But captain, ejecting an object of equal mass to the ship could rip us apart in the resulting gravity wave!"
"Damn it, raise shields to maximum and do it!"
 
White Devil said:
You would think Starfleet would have fucking fitness standards.
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The operative word is "had" and Starfleet had fitness standards. At minimum to keep crewman Fatty from plugging up a Jeffries tube with their gunt.

UnKillShredDur said:
I don't think it would be quite like that... Alexander ended up being a fuckup. Torres was probably more Klingon than Alexander was, even though she was only half Klingon, Alexander was 100% Klingon.
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Alexander did answer the call and joined the KDF during the Dominion War. Granted he continued to be a fuck up but his ship's good luck was directly inverse to his bad luck so it had almost something of a "charmed life."
 
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