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I was always surprised that Mando wasn't Boba from the start. Boba in Mando is not Boba in Boba Fatt. Someone done fucked up.
Typical Disney EU shit. Characters aren’t themselves anymore…for some pretentious or otherwise unknown reason.
Normally, I would be the one to dismiss celebrities who talk about any of the material they star in, but…they seem to all be saying that same thing, that their characters are not who they were previously. It’s a trend now, from Hamill to Boyega to Morrison.
 
So apparently our favorite fat retard Pablo Hidalgo dropped a bunch of information about the (not so good) relationship between Bad Robot and Lucasfilm while making the sequels (plus a bunch of other stuff about Disney right now) on his twitter page. It's well known that Pablo didn't like TFA or TROS. Does anyone know where to find it? I can't seem to find any of it, but maybe it's because I'm not looking hard enough.
This is so weird. Hidalgo has been doing nothing but dickriding the sequels and DisCanon for the last 7 years and blocking anyone who so much as said even the slightest negative thing about them on twitter, even shitting on pre-Disney content and fans to prove his point. Now all of a sudden and out of the blue he's saying all of this controversial anti-Disney shit at once which could have legal repercussions (although still deletes it). What the fuck is going on? Is this because of that brief MeToo drama where he got accused by a female co-worker of too many unwanted hugs and had some of his new gay guides cancelled? Or is there more going on?

Also those tweets from Furloni fans that Hidalgo's responding to will never stop bugging me. These fuckers keep acting as if Filoni literally invented SW, and the greater irony of it all is how they used to happily dismiss anything involving Boba in the past as fanfiction for not being directly written by George's own crazy hands, yet they'll happily slurp Disney's shit up despite not even having George's germs on it while treating Furloni & Friends as the sole authorities on SW despite that their entire vision of the setting constantly revolves around their OC characters and factions (Ahsoka, the clones and the Pike Syndicate etc).

Even the fags at TV Tropes is acting as if Furloni & Crew were the first to give tuskens any dimension while ignoring that these are supposed be xenophobic aliens influenced by american serials, not fucking literal representations of indian culture.
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I suspect that this has been edited down to avoid Content ID, but holy shit this is bad.

Edit: It’s already been made into a meme.
The goofy chase is bad enough, but what the hell is that thing? It looks like a goddamn furby with a giraffe neck. I guarantee that they're going to force-meme it like the stupid ball droid from the sequels, but this gangly freak isn't even that toyetic. Between this, Shadow the Wookiee from Dr Aphra and the garish speeders, it feels like they're deliberately cramming the show full of awful and inane crap to not just humiliate Boba TLJ-style, but taint everything associated with him, so that people will prefer Disney's OC knockoffs like Blandalorian instead.
 
The goofy chase is bad enough, but what the hell is that thing? It looks like a goddamn furby with a giraffe neck. I guarantee that they're going to force-meme it like the stupid ball droid from the sequels, but this gangly freak isn't even that toyetic.
Much like everything else Filoni makes, the droid is based on a rightfully rejected piece of concept art from The Phantom Menace which Filoni repurposed for The Clone Wars movie/pilot (naming it the "rabbit droid") and then kept using constantly for the rest of the show despite its abysmal design. Even making it the sidekick of several characters.

Knowing Filoni or Porgcuck, they'll probably claim via twitter that its the same droid from the Blue Shadow Virus episodes of Filoni Wars (despite that it was destroyed in said episodes).

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Unsurprisingly, reactions to it online seem to be "Is that... the rabbit droid from the episode starring... AHSOKA FROM THE CLONE WARS?!!! I remember that!! Its like I'm a kid again!"
Between this, Shadow the Wookiee from Dr Aphra and the garish speeders, it feels like they're deliberately cramming the show full of awful and inane crap to not just humiliate Boba TLJ-style, but taint everything associated with him, so that people will prefer Disney's OC knockoffs like Blandalorian instead.
That seems to be the plan since day 1.
 
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and then immediately in the next scene he almost gets eaten by the Sarlaac again
Also didn't Boba know he escaped in his armour? Considering what happened with the Tuskens shouldn't his first thought be to go after the Jawas or investigate that town where the guy wearing his armour is? Why not have it be a montage of Boba tracking down his armour to the guy who then tells him about Mando.
Much like everything else Filoni makes, the droid is based on a rightfully rejected piece of concept art from The Phantom Menace which Filoni repurposed for The Clone Wars movie/pilot (naming it the "rabbit droid") and then kept using constantly for the rest of the show despite its abysmal design. Even making it the sidekick of several characters.

Knowing Filoni or Leland Chee, they'll probably claim via twitter that its the same droid from the Blue Shadow Virus episodes of Filoni Wars (despite that it was destroyed in said episodes).
What are those things even for though? Droids are designed to serve a purpose but I cannot for the life of me figure what those thing are even meant to be aside from maybe being entertainment devices for young children which wouldn't explain them being anywhere near where they actually show up in the shows. I mean how hard is it to actually give a fuck about the setting you're writing for and making it consistant? Why do mods exist on Tatooine? What actually is the situation? What the hell is Boba's plan? How come there isn't a constant stream of trampers carrying loads of water into Mos Espa considering how much money can be made by undercutting the locals with imports from worlds that are actually liveable? This is bad comedy.
 
This is so weird. Hidalgo has been doing nothing but dickriding the sequels and DisCanon for the last 7 years and blocking anyone who so much as said even the slightest negative thing about them on twitter, even shitting on pre-Disney content and fans to prove his point. Now all of a sudden and out of the blue he's saying all of this controversial anti-Disney shit at once which could have legal repercussions (although still deletes it). What the fuck is going on? Is this because of that brief MeToo drama where he got accused by a female co-worker of too many unwanted hugs and had some of his new gay guides cancelled? Or is there more going on?

Also those tweets from Furloni fans that Hidalgo's responding to will never stop bugging me. These fuckers keep acting as if Filoni literally invented SW, and the greater irony of it all is how they used to happily dismiss anything involving Boba in the past as fanfiction for not being directly written by George's own crazy hands, yet they'll happily slurp Disney's shit up despite not even having George's germs on it while treating Furloni & Friends as the sole authorities on SW despite that their entire vision of the setting constantly revolves around their OC characters and factions (Ahsoka, the clones and the Pike Syndicate etc).

Even the fags at TV Tropes is acting as if Furloni & Crew were the first to give tuskens any dimension while ignoring that these are supposed be xenophobic aliens influenced by american serials, not fucking literal representations of indian culture.
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That's just....fucking stupid.

For starters, Mando isn't even original, it rips off, poorly KOTOR up to and including the Krayt dragon, feeding it an explosive via Bantha, and working with the Tuskens.

It was so blatant even Forbes noted it.

The portrayal of the Tuskens even liberally lifts bits from the EU. The rub comes in with the massive changes and omissions. The Filoni Tuskens are literally just space Indians. And not even one for one with actual American tribes; which are as different as individual people. They are simply generic space Indians, without the massive nuance that came with the Tuskens of the past.

The Gaffi stick, bantha relations, and the Tuskens ruthless culture are all far deeper than what Filoni portrays them as.
 
The EU already portrayed tuskens in a more sympathetic light in Darksaber. Han and Luke disguise themselves as tuskens and a join a group of them traveling across the desert on their way to Jabba's palace. Luke has to use the Force the whole time or the tuskens would find out and kill them but when Han starts bitching about how shitty the tuskens are Luke tells him the tuskens aren't so bad, they have to be harsh to survive and they're good and loyal to their own.
 
The EU already portrayed tuskens in a more sympathetic light in Darksaber. Han and Luke disguise themselves as tuskens and a join a group of them traveling across the desert on their way to Jabba's palace. Luke has to use the Force the whole time or the tuskens would find out and kill them but when Han starts bitching about how shitty the tuskens are Luke tells him the tuskens aren't so bad, they have to be harsh to survive and they're good and loyal to their own.
Also their depictions in kotor 1 and the second arc of the republic comic series. Hell the final boss of the expanded universe is a Tuskin raider and although he’s a pretty evil guy you understand how he got to that point.
 
You know, that whole three year long galactic war is something that I find hard to see happening in Filoni's Clone Wars. There are just so many conflicts happening that I'm surprised any of the characters have time to rest. Actually three years just feels too short in general. We are talking about a war that pushed the Galactic Republic to the point that they gave up their freedoms to become an empire, stretched the jedi out so much that they could be wiped out by Order 66, and stigmatize the use of droids that bartenders on Tatooine were banning them entry into their establishments.

Feels like it ought to be a decade at most.
I always felt that the Clone Wars as they were should've began in earnest in TPM's timeframe escalating from the more low-intensity proxy conflicts portrayed. Then the clones introduced as a highly mobile vanguard force that the Jedi employ to keep the Republic together against the sheer industrial might of the CIS while the Republic at large desperately tries to cobble together a galactic force of conscripts and volunteers for a grueling decade-long war. Instead of the clones being the galactic army of a few million at most against trillions of droids at least.
 
I always felt that the Clone Wars as they were should've began in earnest in TPM's timeframe escalating from the more low-intensity proxy conflicts portrayed. Then the clones introduced as a highly mobile vanguard force that the Jedi employ to keep the Republic together against the sheer industrial might of the CIS while the Republic at large desperately tries to cobble together a galactic force of conscripts and volunteers for a grueling decade-long war. Instead of the clones being the galactic army of a few million at most against trillions of droids at least.
It also implies that Old Republic was not worth fighting for if they couldn't muster up militias (except Rahm Kota) into a coherent fighting force. It's not, but characters in these movies don't know that.
 
I always felt that the Clone Wars as they were should've began in earnest in TPM's timeframe escalating from the more low-intensity proxy conflicts portrayed. Then the clones introduced as a highly mobile vanguard force that the Jedi employ to keep the Republic together against the sheer industrial might of the CIS while the Republic at large desperately tries to cobble together a galactic force of conscripts and volunteers for a grueling decade-long war. Instead of the clones being the galactic army of a few million at most against trillions of droids at least.
I think the short length is fine when you consider the facts that the war was always nothing more than a means for Palpatine to take total control of the galaxy and that the institutional rot of the Republic's democratic system had been there for a long time and Palpatine merely took advantage of it in order to create a situation by which he is able to take total control of the galaxy. The issue is that there's no real human element to the conflict since it's made up entirely of mass produced weapon systems led by the occasional proper sentient who, by nature of the limited cast, are almost entirely confirmed to survive until the very end of the conflict if not all the way into the GCW considering the amount of Clone Wars veterans in both sides' command staff.
 
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It also implies that Old Republic was not worth fighting for if they couldn't muster up militias (except Rahm Kota) into a coherent fighting force. It's not, but characters in these movies don't know that.
I think it'd also add to the theme of the corruption and decay of the Old Republic if it's having to essentially press-gang sentients into combat because far too few are actually signing up to fight for it, with the resulting force being a totally dysfunctional and demoralized clusterfuck that breaks and runs against droid assaults until the Jedi and the clones have to bail them out (except where they are actually motivated troops fighting on their home turf). Then Palpatine swoops in promising to deal with the dysfunction and chaos and turns it into the core of the (non-Stormtrooper) Imperial Army.

I think the short length is fine when you consider the facts that the war was always nothing more than a means for Palpatine to take total control of the galaxy and that the institutional rot of the Republic's democratic system had been there for a long time and Palpatine merely took advantage of it in order to create a situation by which he is able to take total control of the galaxy. The issue is that there's no real human element to the conflict since it's made up entirely of mass produced weapon systems led by the occasional proper sentient who, by nature of the limited cast, are almost entirely confirmed to survive until the very end of the conflict if not all the way into the GCW considering the amount of Clone Wars veterans in both sides' command staff.
That's why I think having a large non-clone Grand Army of the Republic would help the narrative. Instead of having the galactic populace at large being apathetic spectators to droids and for what are for all intents and purposes biological droids led by aloof space monks going at it they're also now being actively forced to participate in it and resenting the corrupt Republic even more for it. This of course gets worse the further from the Core you are.
 
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Alright guys..... I cant defend this shit. the most charitable thing I can say about episode 4 is thank god the flashbacks are over. The saddest thing is that with some tight editing you could probably make something halfway decent, but man..


First off the 40k mechanic dude looks terrible, and he's using a prop that looks like borg arm. (Resistance is futile nigga!) Very dumb, looked better in the concept art.

Time feels too slow. Certainly doesn't feel like it's been 5 years for boba.

The fucking hijinx Boba has with the Bantha and the annoying robot needed to be cut

So he gets his ship and goes back to the sarlac pit.... why? We established that you saw the Jawa's take your fucking armor off. That beginning shot needed to be cut so bad, for this scene to even make an ounce of sense. It would have been great if he just bombed or shot it outright like the biker gang.


Now we finally get the motivation for why he wants to be a crime lord. That was the best scene and actually made a lot of sense.

Present day setup was good, but it was only the last 10-15 mins.


They could still pull out a decent enough finale, but this is the worst one so far.
 
I always felt that the Clone Wars as they were should've began in earnest in TPM's timeframe escalating from the more low-intensity proxy conflicts portrayed. Then the clones introduced as a highly mobile vanguard force that the Jedi employ to keep the Republic together against the sheer industrial might of the CIS while the Republic at large desperately tries to cobble together a galactic force of conscripts and volunteers for a grueling decade-long war. Instead of the clones being the galactic army of a few million at most against trillions of droids at least.
In the OG continuity they did.

The Stark Hyperspace conflict, the Trade Wars in Luceno's cloak work all laid the ground work for the factions and conflict.

It also implies that Old Republic was not worth fighting for if they couldn't muster up militias (except Rahm Kota) into a coherent fighting force. It's not, but characters in these movies don't know that.
I think the short length is fine when you consider the facts that the war was always nothing more than a means for Palpatine to take total control of the galaxy and that the institutional rot of the Republic's democratic system had been there for a long time and Palpatine merely took advantage of it in order to create a situation by which he is able to take total control of the galaxy. The issue is that there's no real human element to the conflict since it's made up entirely of mass produced weapon systems led by the occasional proper sentient who, by nature of the limited cast, are almost entirely confirmed to survive until the very end of the conflict if not all the way into the GCW considering the amount of Clone Wars veterans in both sides' command staff.
I think it'd also add to the theme of the corruption and decay of the Old Republic if it's having to essentially press-gang sentients into combat because far too few are actually signing up to fight for it, with the resulting force being a totally dysfunctional and demoralized clusterfuck that breaks and runs against droid assaults until the Jedi and the clones have to bail them out (except where they are actually motivated troops fighting on their home turf). Then Palpatine swoops in promising to deal with the dysfunction and chaos and turns it into the core of the (non-Stormtrooper) Imperial Army.

This is the difference between the Clone Wars and Filoni Warz

In the 80s/90s George Lucas left Star Wars for dead. It was during that time a group of talented men and women expanded it into a beautiful cosmology.

With the prequels, another group of men and women expanded the conflict and universe. The Clone Wars did involve locals fighting. many of these groups existed before the Clone Wars such as Rendelli's fleets and the Trade Federation's Lucrehulk's armadas.

On the New Republics side were Judicials like Tarkin, Peallon, Jan Dodonna, and Dallin Jace while the Seps had men like Bomo GreenBark or Gil Decor

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The droids and Clones were the bulk of both armies with volunteers surrounding them. That had three advantages.

The first was Palpatine managed to use the actual Clone Wars to exhaust the galaxy and mark the people with rebellious spirit as malefactors in the eyes of the galaxy. Any rebellion led by...say Gil Dezor would instantly be hated by ordinary people for continuing the conflict.

The second was that with both armies core being under his control; he largely controlled the conflict. Sure, bioSeps could keep fighting, but without the droids they'd be vastly outnumbered against Clones and Republic forces.

Finally, it allowed for Palpatine to determine those he could corrupt into service and those who were noble. The smart ones like Dodona faked their death or retired. The dumb ones were heroic, spoke out, and got crushed.

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What are those things even for though? Droids are designed to serve a purpose but I cannot for the life of me figure what those thing are even meant to be aside from maybe being entertainment devices for young children which wouldn't explain them being anywhere near where they actually show up in the shows.
They very clearly establish that its a rat catcher droid. It even has a net when it first appears.
 
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