Star Wars Griefing Thread (SPOILERS) - Safety off

Daily reminder.

This asshole is the reason Star Wars is driven into the ground, hard.

I guarantee he never watch a second or frame of Episodes 1-6. Just saw the box office and merchandising profits George made.

Even wonder why he allowed Alan Horn to question what the Force and Jedi are without watching a second of those films or allow Kathleen to fuck around for three films? It’s because this turbo cunt never watched any of those movies, and we the fans are getting fucked hard because of it.

Just remember, fuck this clown.

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He's also the reason the second season of Twin Peaks went to shit after the reveal of Laura Palmer's killer. He's been fucking up shit since the fucking George HW Bush administration.
 
Space marines in 40k are their whole army. You got siege and AA forces and their own airforce, and even their own naval fleet that is all about planetary assault and taking obscene damage
Spacemarine Chapters are basically a navy with supersoldiers, not supersoldiers with a navy.
A battlebarge is roughly the match of a super star destroyer, and each chapter has three of them, along with a flotilla of other warships.
Unless a world is shielded, it'd take a matter of hours to vaporise the enemy, and just days wipe out all life, (Hours if they use the good stuff)
Who cares about the laughably small 1000 spacemarines. (except they ship alot of overpriced plastic.)

the enemy should already be largely shattered or they are only deploying to key locations.
Yep, they're for the surgical strikes mere humans can't handle.
Warhammer is for everyone"
You know that was in response to a tournament player going full nazi to cause other players to forfeit? For once I support the wokeshit.
 
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You know that was in response to a tournament player going full nazi to cause other players to forfeit? For once I support the wokeshit.
That was me reminding people here that GW, the makers and authors of 40K, never intended for it to be a "based" or "traditional" series. It was always woke, it always meant to be woke, and anyone who thought otherwise is either going off on fan interpretations and fooling themselves. And if that point wasn't driven hard enough, GW openly told the right-wingers that they won't be missed, if they left because they didn't want to work with GW's woke agenda.

I can close my eyes and pretend that Watchmen was about badass superheroes racing on the clock against the apocalypse, where the main right-wing hero is a principled man who doesn't give up on his code of honor, but at the end of the day, it's a work that wars against unelected dudes in tights while casting right-wingers as creepy weirdos.

Who cares about the laughably small 1000 spacemarines. (except they ship alot of overpriced plastic.)
The price tag never ceases to amaze me. At least Disney keeps their figures at an affordable $30 a pop. You get a 6-inch figure that you can pose and is already assembled and painted. GW's treatment of 40K fans makes Disney's treatment of SW fans seem tame by comparison.

And let's not even get into how Paramount treats Star Trek fans. Yikes.
 
Rick Worley, a YouTuber who made very in depth videos in defense of the PT and Special Editions (that I imagine will be controversial to anyone who has watched them), has made another video, this time covering George Lucas’s plans for a Sequel Trilogy and how it morphed throughout the years:
Rick did a follow up Live Stream to this video
 
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Lore wise marines aren't just fast, but can shoot/dodge in microseconds. Not milliseconds, and headshot in the kilometer range without sniping.
Which makes it ever more hilarious when they get killed by normal humans.
 
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Andor was one of the best shows I've ever had the pleasure of watching, but I've avoided rewatching them to stop it getting stale.
Since series 2 is coming out in a few weeks, I plan to do a rewatch beforehand.
This youtuber isn't me, but I wouldn't say anything different.
Which makes it ever more hilarious when they get killed by normal humans.
Pretty much.
Black Library authors have been trapped between needing humans to be relatable and not having the saga cut short by a single realistic space marine.
It actively surprises me that GW did not try to do a stupid lawsuit with Lucasfilms over this.
Games Workshop fears the mouse.
After the AoS/ToW reset, they renamed the leader of the Dark Elves from Malekith to Malerion because Disney's Marvel called the leader of their dark elves Malekith too.
 
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Which makes it ever more hilarious when they get killed by normal humans.
Black Library authors have been trapped between needing humans to be relatable and not having the saga cut short by a single realistic space marine.
That's one of my problems with 40K fandom. They would cherry-pick bits from the lore to make the Space Marines into these demigods of war, and some bits of the lore portray the Space Marines as demigods, but when you look at the lore as a whole, there's instances of marines getting decapitated by lasguns, there's marines who get killed by regular folks, some author who wants their special OC to be remembered has said character kill a Space Marine even though they're just a normie, and when you see Space Marines fight in GW's visual media, they fight well, but not that much better than a Jedi or a Sith.

Shit, the fucking Prequel Jedi make them look like paraplegic turtles, and those movies were shot with real actors doing those stunts! Somehow, real actors doing stunts captures the essence of augmented humans fighting better than CGI trailers and animations where you can make the characters do anything.

It kind of kills the hype when the fans over-hype the Space Marines too much, only for the actual thing that you can see to under-deliver. At best, they fight like Warcraft Paladins with guns, especially since Warcraft and Warhammer Fantasy have a lot in common, and 40K is just Warhammer Fantasy's sci-fi counterpart. But they're not the invincible gods of war that the fans hype them up as, especially when you actually see them fight.

At least when the odd Rebel or Clone Trooper kills a Dark Trooper or a Super Battle Droid, those were just souped-up killer robots. The space equivalent of the T-800 from the Terminator. They're not demigods of war; not even the Mandalorians or the Jedi have that status. If some Clone Trooper or Rebel agent kills a Dark Trooper or a Super Battle Droid in battle, they just killed a powerful enemy, but an enemy that's not invincible.

No Mandalorian or Force-user is invincible either; even before Order 66, many Jedi died fighting the CIS Battle Droids. Part of the reason Palpatine triggered Order 66 in the first place was because he feared that one of the Jedi might be strong enough to kill him, and wouldn't you know it, Mace Windu was one amongst those Jedi, so it's best to kill them all in a single surprise attack using their own troops, rather than face each Jedi man-to-man in a duel. Let Vader handle that shit.

In the Old Republic Era, the great Sith Emperor Darth Vitiate was struck down by some Jedi rando who graduated top of his class in the Tython Jedi Academy. And in the post-ROTJ era, Marka Ragnos, the most powerful Sith of the Old Republic Era, was defeated by Jaden Korr, some random Jedi minion of Luke Skywalker, who was training under Kyle Katarn. It goes to show that even the most powerful of the Sith can fall victim to some random Jedi.

And in the same way, no matter how much beskar the Mandalorians cover themselves with, they can still get killed by Republic troopers, random aliens, or even Stormtroopers. The Mandalorians lost on Dxun and Malachor 5 against Republic troops who were weaker than them, less heavily-armored than them, led by Jedi who were just pressing them forward like commissars forcing the Imperial Guard to charge forward. Some random natives that worked with the Death Watch kicked the shit out of Jaster Mereel's Mandalorian forces. The last major battle the Mandalorians partook in was the Battle of Botajef, where they lost hard against the Stormtroopers of the Galactic Empire.

The last battle the Mandalorians fought in the entire Star Wars timeline wasn't some glorious last stand against a superior foe; the Empire didn't send armies of Dark Troopers or Sith Warriors to take on the Mandos; fucking recruits in plastoid shells took them down, despite their beskar'gam and all their skills and training. It goes to show that no amount of power will allow you to dominate the battlefield when the other side has superior logistics and numbers against you.

Or as Mr. House from Fallout New Vegas put it, when he described the power-armored paladins of the Brotherhood of Steel: "Ideological purity and shiny power armor don't count for much when you're outnumbered 15:1."
 
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Andor was one of the best shows I've ever had the pleasure of watching, but I've avoided rewatching them to stop it getting stale.
Since series 2 is coming out in a few weeks, I plan to do a rewatch beforehand.
This youtuber isn't me, but I wouldn't say anything different.
Proveably false.

Andor is 837% gay and lame for the simple reason that it is a plodding indepth look at the empire but it matters even less than any other sort of overthought fiction because it was produced by the Rat who has made no secret that lore will be retconned, reinterpretted and straight up ignored if it will prevent them from cramming the next show or movie with as many fags and niggers as possible.
All your "deep complex characters" will be completely erased and reduced to a seal-clapping footnote the next time one of the prancing figuredykes on staff need a project to cram her current finger-puppet into so Disney can tick another box on their ESG ratings.[/i][/i]
 
Proveably false.

Andor is 837% gay and lame for the simple reason that it is a plodding indepth look at the empire but it matters even less than any other sort of overthought fiction because it was produced by the Rat who has made no secret that lore will be retconned, reinterpretted and straight up ignored if it will prevent them from cramming the next show or movie with as many fags and niggers as possible.
All your "deep complex characters" will be completely erased and reduced to a seal-clapping footnote the next time one of the prancing figuredykes on staff need a project to cram her current finger-puppet into so Disney can tick another box on their ESG ratings.[/i][/i]
I'm not so sure about Andor, though. It's the only thing the Disney Star Wars brand has going for it with any hype left. The Filoniverse hit a snag after the failures of S3 Mando and S1 Ahsoka; the rest of their plans with Star Wars are in shambles. If anything, Disney would try to build up on Andor and continue their Antifa-style messaging, especially with Donald Trump back in office.

They might contradict other pieces of Disney SW lore to keep Andor's story scot-free, so they can write whatever they want.
 
GW got reamed in the Chapterhouse lawsuit, where it had been proven they copyrighted and trademarked public domain and other people's IP as theirs. After the lawsuit was settled GW went and renamed everything so it will be their's. Coupled with the PR disaster they did attacking U.S. veteran M.C.A. Hogarth for writing and selling Spots the Space Marine: Defense of the Fiddleron on Amazon.

I am aware they're libtards but they did do the digging on who wrote the first "space marine."
 
GW got reamed in the Chapterhouse lawsuit, where it had been proven they copyrighted and trademarked public domain and other people's IP as theirs. After the lawsuit was settled GW went and renamed everything so it will be their's. Coupled with the PR disaster they did attacking U.S. veteran M.C.A. Hogarth for writing and selling Spots the Space Marine: Defense of the Fiddleron on Amazon.
There's no way they could win a legal battle with Lucasfilm under Lucas, let alone Disney Lucasfilm. Even back during his day, Lucas' company was always bigger and stronger than Games Workshop ever was. The latter had a niche company with a product that could best be described as moderately popular; if they went after Star Wars, which was so popular it influenced Gundam, Transformers, and many other mainstream works, they'd get squashed like a bug.

GW picks their fights well. Usually against freelance artists and fans who do things outside of their approval. They will not engage in a costly legal battle against a larger company with a more popular product. Not only would it bankrupt them, they would lose. Hard. So it's a legal battle not worth fighting, even if Disney comes out tomorrow and renames the Dark Troopers "Space Marines" and has Palpatine be given the title of "Emperor of Mankind". GW is litigious against the small fry, not the big fish that can easily swallow them whole.
 
I'm not so sure about Andor, though. It's the only thing the Disney Star Wars brand has going for it with any hype left. The Filoniverse hit a snag after the failures of S3 Mando and S1 Ahsoka; the rest of their plans with Star Wars are in shambles. If anything, Disney would try to build up on Andor and continue their Antifa-style messaging, especially with Donald Trump back in office.

They might contradict other pieces of Disney SW lore to keep Andor's story scot-free, so they can write whatever they want.
So remember how the Acolyte shit over everything from KOTR, SWOTR, Plagueis & Sideous novels... rendering all that moot and pointless so a group of nigresses could fail to count and lesbian could beanflick to her men-free dyke society? To say nothing of Furlonely fucking up mando-lore. That is coming for Andor unless the Rat decides to completely abandon the show. I don't even think season 2 is going to be safe, I'm pretty sure you'll get to enjoy plenty of Orange Moff Bad.

It only has hype because abused wives still cling to hope that he said he'd change and this time he meant he it.
 
So remember how the Acolyte shit over everything from KOTR, SWOTR, Plagueis & Sideous novels... rendering all that moot and pointless so a group of nigresses could fail to count and lesbian could beanflick to her men-free dyke society? To say nothing of Furlonely fucking up mando-lore. That is coming for Andor unless the Rat decides to completely abandon the show. I don't even think season 2 is going to be safe, I'm pretty sure you'll get to enjoy plenty of Orange Moff Bad.

It only has hype because abused wives still cling to hope that he said he'd change and this time he meant he it.
KOTOR, SWTOR, and the Plagueis and Sidious novels weren't made by the Mouse, and are, at most, loved by some random nerds. Andor, on the other hand, has the media and the normie web kissing its ass. If Tony Gilroy decided to stay for longer and write more seasons for Andor, they'd let him rewrite SW lore to fit his ideology.
 
It only has hype because abused wives still cling to hope that he said he'd change and this time he meant he it.
Allegedly this is going to be the second and last season since it only got revived due to word of mouth, and not due to its fucktastically bad numbers. Even though those 'books only nerds like' never reported numbers, they almost certainly got over 100k, which was around a tenth of what Andor got. That's fucking horrible for a TV show; there's a reason Disney got into legal trouble for putting it on their public channels to get people to watch.

It however might pull off the rare example of a Disney product not being shit if the director sticks the landing AND they stick to it being two seasons.

I expect production meddling from that shithole company to shoot it in the face though, thus having the toilet fentanyl addicts who consoom scream once more as rat poison induces a nightmare hallucination in their dying haze. Once more cope would occur as they justify shoving shards of glass in their eyes for over a half hour, and as pants are shat justifying a dead and gay IP.

But the possibility is certainly there; the first thing Ratmade that's solidly good throughout. If you ignore the unfocused mess that is the Rogue One movie.
 
Ack-tually, there was, in Space marine 1, when you aimed in after an upgrade you could target enemies at better speeds. But neither side has video games doing good justice to it.

Force Speed usually just buffs your run speed, not your attacks, which is... just done for game mechanics. It should make you faster in every way, not just running. But that's video game logic for you. Same bad implementation as other franchises.

I also know that the ISD has more guns, but that it wasn't that well implemented in games. That was the point. We see it is shooting at the Tantive IV with something, but its not its main weaponry. Most games don't model every small gun. Battlefleet Gothic didn't either. Almost all games also give such a small range to their ships that a WW1 battleship could shoot farther. You want to keep your ships and the enemy on the same screen, and you want them to be distinguishable as more than dots.

Writers just want their super special OCs to go Worf effect on the biggest threat they can find, be it Jedi, Sith, Space marine or Klingon. This should be considered bad writing, but people go: Oh hecking based underdogerino can kill anything with a good bit of grit and smartness! So new, so groundbreaking!
However as autistically smart as I am, I like it when elites are elites. That's why you pay for them. If Space Marines or Jedi didn't live up to their hype, why would the goverment they work for keep them so well funded?

If the Jedi were that easy to kill, they wouldn't have made for an effective Republic peacekeeper force for thousands of years. I know this will hurt the writer's super special OC Jedi Killer 9000, but HK-47 summed it up well, you really need a lot of things to go right to fight a Jedi. Just blasting at him is not going to work. Even if you say that Jedi are semi independent and can work as philosophers, the Republic would still need a good combat force.

GW still makes Warhammer +, and it wasn't any bigger success than Disney + Star Wars, if we discount the Mandalorian that actually was a success initally. Don't underestimate the mouse throwing shit at the wall out of desperation.
 
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Force Speed usually just buffs your run speed, not your attacks, which is... just done for game mechanics. It should make you faster in every way, not just running. But that's video game logic for you. Same bad implementation as other franchises.
Nope. In KOTOR, Force Speed gets you extra attacks because of how fast your character is. In Jedi Academy, the entire game world slows down, allowing you to get in more attacks, to show how fast you're attacking. It's implemented well enough, which is more than what any 40K game ever did.

And again, this doesn't excuse the fact that all the NON-video game visual media also has the Space Marines be slow, glacier-types instead of the fast-reaction fighters that even the Prequel movies were able to achieve with their Jedi.

I also know that the ISD has more guns, but that it wasn't that well implemented in games. That was the point. We see it is shooting at the Tantive IV with something, but its not its main weaponry. Most games don't model every small gun. Battlefleet Gothic didn't either. Almost all games also give such a small range to their ships that a WW1 battleship could shoot farther. You want to keep your ships and the enemy on the same screen, and you want them to be distinguishable as more than dots.
Maybe because they needed the Tantive IV intact? So they'll be using very low-powered guns in attacking the corvette that they just want to stop instead of destroy. If they use heavy turbolasers on the ship, it could vaporize the ship and the crew that Vader wants to interrogate.

Writers just want their super special OCs to go Worf effect on the biggest threat they can find, be it Jedi, Sith, Space marine or Klingon. This should be considered bad writing, but people go: Oh hecking based underdogerino can kill anything with a good bit of grit and smartness! So new, so groundbreaking!
However as autistically smart as I am, I like it when elites are elites. That's why you pay for them. If Space Marines or Jedi didn't live up to their hype, why would the goverment they work for keep them so well funded?
Good writers can make a regular person OC defeat a Space Marine/Jedi while making it work/make sense.

And I agree with you on elites. But the thing is, it's a cheap hype tool for bad writers for them to have their character kill an elite warrior despite the OC being a normie.

If the Jedi were that easy to kill, they wouldn't have made for an effective Republic peacekeeper force for thousands of years. I know this will hurt the writer's super special OC Jedi Killer 9000, but HK-47 summed it up well, you really need a lot of things to go right to fight a Jedi. Just blasting at him is not going to work. Even if you say that Jedi are semi independent and can work as philosophers, the Republic would still need a good combat force.
The Jedi have more of a variable. It's not like the Space Marines where they're all supermen. Some poorly-trained Jedi are barely above mook level, whereas well-trained Jedi can flatten entire armies of elites and supermen.

GW still makes Warhammer +, and it wasn't any bigger success than Disney + Star Wars, if we discount the Mandalorian that actually was a success initially. Don't underestimate the mouse throwing shit at the wall out of desperation.
Disney+ at least had a golden age when the Mandalorian succeeded. Can't say the same about Warhammer+, where it had to fight an uphill battle from the start because GW squashed several fan channels for it, only for it to be mid at best. So right off the bat, people hated their guts because shows like Text-To-Speech went away because of GW, only for their work to not be as good as the Mandalorian, Andor, Ahsoka, or even Kenobi.
 
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AMC is broadcasting the first four Indiana Jones films from Paramount now. I don’t think they ever air anything from Lucasfilm before.

Before, the first four Indiana Jones films were airing on all of Paramount’s channels like Showtime, Paramount channel, MTV, and probably Nickelodeon.

I’m not sure if AMC ever broadcast any of the six film saga, but funny enough, Paramount’s Spike channel had broadcasting rights to them before the Rat dump them on TNT since 2016.
 
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