Star Wars Griefing Thread (SPOILERS) - Safety off

[Fig Kommandant]

There's also Mandalorian and Grogu coming out next year. I'm expecting it to make $500 million total which will mean they'll lose hundreds of millions because Disney can't spend less than $400 million on a movie. And there's Ahsoka season 2 so get ready for more crossed arms and smirking. Star Wars as been dead for me since 1999 so I don't really care, I just want to watch it burn spectacularly.

Actually seems like they've learned at least one lesson when it comes to budgeting.

 

[Mr. Racewar1488]

Actually seems like they've learned at least one lesson when it comes to budgeting.
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We'll see if they can keep it at $166 million but there's always the extensive reshoots that Disney loves. Fantastic 4 has been reshooting their Act 3 as I post this.

 

[Rome's rightful successor]

I saw somebody got him to say faggot. I'm tempted to install Fortnite and try to get him to say nigger.

I now want to see that. I'm sure James Earl Jones is spinning in his grave but this is kinda fun.

 

[Michael Wade]

Im enjoying the vids of Vader giving everybody shit. He actually reacts to the characters you play as. There's one where it sounds like he's reacting with barely contained contempt for the concept of skipidy toilet

Legit want to ask him about EU stuff.

I now want to see that. I'm sure James Earl Jones is spinning in his grave but this is kinda fun.

I get the impression Jones was never felt like he really "owned" the role ( it literally took him two hours to do the first movie) He dug it, but was pretty modest about his contribution.

Apparently his family says he wanted people to have fun with the character forever soo... Go nuts

 

[Rome's rightful successor]

Apparently his family says he wanted people to have fun with the character forever soo... Go nuts

That's awesome, what a cool man he was.

 

[Spergichu]

This is the perfect opportunity for all the fags ranting about how Vader would never condone rape in the Empire to ask him what he thinks about it yet no one does. Curious!

 

[Clyde Cash's Left Teste]

That's awesome, what a cool man he was.

He did seem like the kind of guy to be fine with this

 

[Spergichu]

i want to hear Vader reciting crime statistics so fucking bad. lol

"Lord Vader, if there is an alien species who commit half of all violent crimes on a planet yet only make up 13% of the planet's population, how would the Empire respond to this issue?"
"Lord Vader, say that there's a particular alien species who have been exiled from 109 planets in the galaxy. Why would so many planets choose to exile these aliens? Could it be the alien's fault for being exiled?"

 

[LORD IMPERATOR]

I feel like Filoni's authority is going to be dependent on the box office of that Mandalorian movie since that is supposedly playing in theaters.

It's going to get compared to Andor, and I'm guessing it's going to be compared negatively, since Andor did so well in the normie reception space.

This is the perfect opportunity for all the fags ranting about how Vader would never condone rape in the Empire to ask him what he thinks about it yet no one does. Curious!

He'd probably be more angry at the fact that an Imperial officer was willing to overlook the fact that these people were clearly illegal immigrants/fugitives from Imperial justice, in exchange for sex. If he found out that officer had sex with that woman in exchange for him turning a blind eye, he'd probably lightsaber the dude's cock off.

"Lord Vader, if there is an alien species who commit half of all violent crimes on a planet yet only make up 13% of the planet's population, how would the Empire respond to this issue?"

I'm guessing by tossing them all into a factory world where they'll be making war materials day and night.

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"Lord Vader, say that there's a particular alien species who have been exiled from 109 planets in the galaxy. Why would so many planets choose to exile these aliens? Could it be the alien's fault for being exiled?"

The Empire would care based on how much they can make off said aliens. The Empire's treatment of them will be dependent on how much they contribute to the Imperial system.

 

[Drag-on Knight 91873]

"Lord Vader, if there is an alien species who commit half of all violent crimes on a planet yet only make up 13% of the planet's population, how would the Empire respond to this issue?"
"Lord Vader, say that there's a particular alien species who have been exiled from 109 planets in the galaxy. Why would so many planets choose to exile these aliens? Could it be the alien's fault for being exiled?"

I mean, if Thanos figured out he only needed to snap 13% of the population to reduce consumption by 50%, that'd be a bargain.

 

[LORD IMPERATOR]

The ironic thing about the Left getting mad at Empire-lovers is the fact that they ignore what Lucas said on the matter. Lucas not only based the Empire on Nazis, Romans, and the British, but he also based it on the USA, specifically Cold War USA under the Nixon era. He even compared the Rebels and Ewoks' victory over the Empire to the Vietcong fighting the USA forces in Vietnam. It's hard to fully hate the enemy when they're partially based on you. The Empire isn't just Space Nazi central; it was partially based on Cold War America, which many people still see as the good guys.

And it goes double for British people and Roman Empire fans; the Brits themselves played the Imperial March in one of the Queen's royal gatherings because they knew the Empire was partially based off them, especially when the entire Imperial officer class speaks with posh English accents. Roman Empire fans obviously admire an Empire that had quick coordination and near-endless reserves of soldiers for their legions. Not to mention the Emperor's Royal Guards were a dead ringer for the old Praetorian Guard.

Lucas further compounds the idea that Imperials can be empathized with when a kid asked him if the Stormtroopers were the bad guys. Lucas instead responded that the Stormtroopers were good people working for a bad man. (ie. Vader and Sidious) So it's practically Word of God that the Imperials are just as human as their Rebel counterparts, and the great tragedy is that them and the Rebels would be friends if it wasn't for their bosses. Hence why it's called the Galactic Civil War, because it's a society of people who would otherwise be like-minded, torn in half fighting each other, because of dueling allegiances.

There's also the fact that the Empire is the one faction that relies upon the great masses of enlisted people to fight for them; the Rebels just grab whatever dissidents they can grab, along with the minions of whatever rich prick joins them. The Republic used clone slave soldiers led by indoctrinated Jedi Janissaries. The Separatists used a few organic officers and mercenaries leading droid legions. The Empire provided for the populace a way to get paid and shared with them the power to enforce the law, in the form of making the recruits who came from the people into the Empire's metaphorical hands and fingers. You're not just fighting unfeeling zealots or Dark Side minions; you're fighting regular Joes who signed on the dotted line because they thought they were fighting for order and peace, and after centuries of a Republic government basically letting things slide into chaos while having the Jedi babysit them, it was a refreshing change of pace, the occasional war crimes notwithstanding.

Plus, it's not that hard to convince them to commit genocide, when the Republic basically did the same thing multiple times, even when the Jedi were watching over things. Most of the Empire's war criminals were former Republic officers who weren't that unfamiliar with the idea of bombing people back into the stone age. Base Delta Zero, the Empire's version of Warhammer 40K's Exterminatus, was originally a REPUBLIC protocol. The Empire just adapted that to their own systems.

So the Left getting mad at Empire fans and acting like the Imperials are a bunch of irredeemable, unfeeling monsters forget the fact that the Empire is, quite ironically enough, the most human out of all the factions. They provided the jobs to the most humans in the galaxy out of any faction, especially when in the SWEU, the New Republic provided less jobs, (their army, navy, and government was far smaller) and in the new canon, the New Republic uses droids for things like security and psychiatric help. The Republic's Jedi used clone troopers or whatever volunteers they can scrape off the streets, putting them under the command of religiously indoctrinated zealots who have been taught to subdue their own emotions. (You know, the things that make you human?) The Confederates used droid armies provided by shady corporations who were already doing the same evil things the Empire would later do, before they seceded from the Republic.

Is it any wonder that some people sympathize with the Empire, no matter what the authors from both the SWEU and Disney do?

 

[CyrusHowler]

I don't think Filoni will let anyone else challenge him after Gilroy leaves

Andor embarrassed him by making people care about literal nobody side characters from a nearly decade old movie whereas Filoni and the rest has fumbled beloved characters and given us mostly drivel.

this fortnite shit was to promote some new cartoon and you could watch the first two episodes in game before it came out on disney+

Tales of The Underworld was really good.
Most of the animated stuff is competently made, I believe Kennedy is hands off with those projects.

 

[Fig Kommandant]

Is it any wonder that some people sympathize with the Empire, no matter what the authors from both the SWEU and Disney do?

Beyond the lore, I think it has more to do with Leftists having no understand of how the Right thinks. Meanwhile for people on the Right, we've been inundated with leftist messaging in popular media for so long we have a vague to proper understanding of what they believe in.
Some people to prefer to sacrifice some freedom for order. In fact, every person in any civilization prefers that. I give up my natural freedom to take a human's life so others give it up and we can all live peaceful together, property rights are the same. But I think the Left forgets all the sacrifices we make in society. The natural order is "might makes right", we give that up to live in order. But the leftists seem to see human order, society and civilization as the baseline, rather than something that should be protected and respected.
Nemik's manifesto from Andor had similar echoes. For the lines:

The Imperial need for control is so desperate because it is so unnatural. Tyranny requires constant effort. It breaks, it leaks. Authority is brittle.

You can subsitute imperial control/tyranny for civilization, industry or even charity, and the words are as true. Any human endeavor requires constand effort, is unnatural and is brittle, that's why it should be protected.

 

[INDEED]

Then again, Ferrix proved that she isn't good at live-fire combat, so I suppose she won't make for a good meatshield for the Stormies and the army boys. I suppose having her work to make Death Star components would be more useful.

Partagaz mentions recruiting her from enforcement. Maybe they just wanted to get rid of her. Keeping her in factory prison means she could be rehabiliated by the Empire when the political situation changes, like in communist countries.

Interesting also how Dedra's last three episodes mirrored Syril's first three - botched raid followed by Imperial overreaction leading to their personal downfall. Except Dedra doesn't have an Uncle Harlo to know what's best

So the IP is just dead now right? Andor was a dead cat bounce, you don't hear shit about the jude law show or any of the other shit they have in the works

Except aesthetically, Andor was barely a Star Wars show. With minor tweaking it could be set in the Expanse.

 

[CyrusHowler]

I just stick to my EU novels and comics and the Hexology.

 

[Fig Kommandant]

Except aesthetically, Andor was barely a Star Wars show.

I really don't get this criticism. The central plot of the show are stuff directly taken from the prequels and OT. Imperial overreach from the prequels, building the Deathstar, kyber mining in season 2, mentions to obscure lore like the Rakatan Empire. Is Star Wars just Tattoine and light sabers? There's plenty of books and comics that deal with non-force/non-jedi stuff but I haven't seen them accused of not being Star Wars.

 

[Doctor of Autism]

I now want to imagine what a Dave Filoni Andor would be like

Mon Mothma's escape would consist of Stormtroopers slipping on banana peels while they run and shoot everywhere.

Dedra Meero would be revealed to be Captain Phasma down the line.

Andor and Bix's kid would be Poe Dameron.

Luthen would be a jedi who survived Order 66 and be Palpatine's cousin.

Kino Loy would be turned into the basis for Snoke because they have the same actor.

Inquisitors would keep bumbling around and get beat up by the Ferrix people.

I wonder what else would happen in this alternate timeline

 

[TrainWreckWatcher]

I have no idea how you get this game and I don't think its worth my time to try and figure out something that isn't steam.

But if anyone can get him to start reciting black crime statistics or sing kanye's latest hit I would be very grateful.

 

[DeadwastePrime]

I now want to imagine what a Dave Filoni Andor would be like

ive thought about what'd happen if he was directing andor (and rogue one while we're at it) and while im pretty sure it'd be similar to what we already have, but filoni is more focused on the star wars mythos state of things like the jedi, the force, sith, etc so there'd be more elements of that here. it'd likely be a bit more idealistic and direct with it's storytelling compared to the more grounded, subtle story with gilroy. things would be a lot less gray than how they are here. it would feel like a star wars thing, which andor is, but andor and rogue one are stories that could theoretically be removed from star wars all together and still work with minor tweaks. a filoni directed one less so.

 

[The greater a'tuin]

I really don't get this criticism. The central plot of the show are stuff directly taken from the prequels and OT. Imperial overreach from the prequels, building the Deathstar, kyber mining in season 2, mentions to obscure lore like the Rakatan Empire. Is Star Wars just Tattoine and light sabers? There's plenty of books and comics that deal with non-force/non-jedi stuff but I haven't seen them accused of not being Star Wars.

Star Wars is meant to have a fantastical pulpy tone. A self-contained melancholy drama about normal humans could be transposed into any other science fiction setting.