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Filoni tried to throw Thrawn, the Mandalorians, Darth Vader, Grand Moff Tarkin, Princess Leia, all to get our attention, yet the closest he got to the universal praise Andor got was when Luke Skywalker lightsabered a bunch of Dark Troopers in Moff Gus Fring's flagship. And that was mostly due to the fact that Luke's character had been horribly mismanaged for so long, a short instance of him being competent was like seeing the face of God.
Gilroy took a bunch of nobodies and a few side characters, and made a show that eclipsed even the Mandalorian in terms of critical appeal. To the point where people began to refer to the Filoniverse as Dave playing with action figures on the big screen.
Leftists have no understanding of history. Director Krennic's lines about lawless ineptitude are proven right, even by Disney canon's own shaky standards, with the New Republic being lawless and inept. There's the actual history of the world, where having an idealistic, small-government nation bereft of a large, powerful bureaucracy typically ends with a shitshow. (Holy Roman Empire, USA under the Articles of Confederation, Kingdom of Poland before the Partition)
At the end of the day, you do need something like the ISB in order to keep peace and order as well as keep would-be wrongdoers at bay. We have our version of the ISB; we call it the FBI. Sure, the Empire went overboard in certain aspects, but at the end of the day, that Imperial general in the Mandalorian who got shot by Bill Burr was correct.
"People think they want Freedom. But what they really want is Order."
Given all the crazy shit that's happened ever since the COOF, one would think people would understand where a line like this would come from, even though the person who spoke it is supposed to be an evil son of a bitch who doesn't care about casualties, friend or foe.
The Left is quick to scream "FASCISM!" when in reality, they just use that word to describe a powerful government that does things they don't like. If a powerful government starts tossing people into jail for offensive Facebook posts or for littering on the street, they'd be all for it.
All Palpatine would need to do in order to NOT be called a Fascist by the Left is fill his officer corps with "Strong Empowered Women" (ie. more people like Ysanne Isard, Mara Jade, Lumiya/Shira Brie, or Natasi Daala) and more aliens as DEI hires, (hey, Palpatine already has Sly Moore, Mas Amedda, and Thrawn with him) then have them talk about how they're empowering the lower classes by giving them guns, TIE Fighters, capital ships, and the right to enforce the law as Imperial soldiers, while taxing the rich in order to pay for it.
Add in some environmental edicts (like how they tried to clean up the junkworld of Raxus Prime in the original canon to make ships) as well as welfare programs up the ass, (Thrawn already states that the Empire provides food, clothing, and shelter to countless trillions who have never seen a TIE Fighter or a Stormtrooper) and voila! The Empire is now the tool of the proletariat; it eradicated the old bourgeoisie corporate states, (ie. what Anakin did on Mustafar with the Sep leaders) it got rid of the established religion of the Jedi, it uplifts common soldiers and officers who perform well at the expense of the old Senatorial Aristocracy, and if anyone abuses their privilege to the detriment of others, the Sith come in and strangle them or fry them with lightning.
If anything, it's the Empire that tried to revolutionize how things were run, and it's the Rebels who were the conservatives who want to preserve the power of the Jedi Religion and the old Senatorial Aristocracy.
That's the weirdest thing I've heard from the show. Casting the Empire as unnatural, when the Empire goes by the natural law of "Might Makes Right". It's the kind of government that a wild beast would create; one where it pisses on the ground to mark its turf, warning everyone else that if someone crosses that line, it would maul them to death, and even if they don't cross the line, if the beast takes a liking to something, they'll take it by force as well, just as the Empire did on Ghorman.
If anything, it's the Republic that's unnatural, given that it needed legions of psychic Space Templar Janissaries with unnatural powers and who cut themselves off from their natural emotions, to keep control of things. Without the Jedi, the Republican system collapses and falls apart. The fact that they need supernatural aid from emotionally-stunted warrior-cultists makes their government more unnatural than just a simple Imperial bureaucracy that rules as an absolute monarchy, an enlightened despot state, which is something we've had for centuries.
I suppose so. Maybe once they start running low on officers, they can drag her ass out of jail and give her a decent post. Or a task that's more like a suicide mission.
It goes to show that no matter her power, she is just a tool at the end, just like him.
Try the SW: Empire comics. Especially the ones about the Anti-Sith Conspiracy. That's just as good as Andor, if not better.
Let me add some other scenarios:
-Every time the good guys get away, Dedra shrugs it off and says "Just as planned". Then she inexplicably catches Luthen and says that she was allowing him to win in order to track him.
-That officer who tried to rape Bix instead tried to steal some money from her, and he slips up and falls on his head. He doesn't die, he just gets knocked out, and his troops are such complete goobers that the good guys manage to escape them without the aid of Andor and his TIE Avenger.
-The Ghorman Massacre isn't a massacre at all, just a gathering where the rebels commit some family-friendly terrorism and they get away with it because the Imperials are buffoons; they lean on the fact that the Imperial Army Troopers are inexperienced to have them slip up, fall on each other, and do other comedic hijinks for the kids to laugh at.
-The same thing goes for the Ferrix incident; the people riot against the Imperials, they blow up a few things, the Stormtroopers get ganged-up on and get the shit kicked out of them by pissed-off Ferrix workers, and the Ferrix workers leave in good order after kicking the shit out of the Stormies, taking their guns, and tying them up on the sidewalk.
-Director Krennic is a bombastic idiot who accomplishes nothing, isn't scary, and falls flat on his face more than once in order to keep the audience laughing.
-Colonel Yularen isn't intimidating at all, instead, he acts like a good guy among the bad guys, despite leading the fucking Space Gestapo.
-Luthen would be pure good; when he meets with his ISB mole Lonni Jung who has info on the Death Star, they both speed off right away to Yavin along with Luthen's female assistant Kleya; if anything, she'll lead their escape attempt against the ISB, taking out three squads of ISB tactical operators on her own, and piloting the ship that gets Luthen and his ISB mole to Yavin. Then the three of them present Dedra's Death Star files to the Alliance Council, who wholeheartedly believe them.
-You get a post-credits scene that takes place on Coruscant, several years after the Battle of Endor, with Luthen, Kleya, Bix, Lonni, and the other guys still alive, and Mon Mothma gives them posts within the New Republic; Luthen serves as the New Republic intelligence chief, with Kleya and Bix at his side. Andor's son by Bix is now grown-up, and is playing with X-Wing toys in the office, while Mon is a grandma who sees her daughter have children of her own as well. They didn't kill Tay, so he's also still alive, and Davos Sculdun is given a job managing the New Republic's finances.
They look out at the horizon of the bright Coruscant sky, with Luthen's ISB mole, Lonni Jung, telling him that hey, they did manage to see the morning that Luthen himself said he wouldn't live to see. Luthen laughs, punching Lonni on the arm and calling him a smartass, and they get to work, and we see some of Lonni's ISB friends now wearing New Republic uniforms, and they work together with genuine smiles on their faces, as opposed to the nervous attitude they had while working for the Empire.
We even have Major Partagaz showing up in a New Republic uniform, handing Mon Mothma and Luthen Rael an intelligence report about Grand Admiral Thrawn's activities, and the good guys spring into action, working together to manage this new threat. Major Partagaz brings in a few "specialists" who know a thing or two about dealing with Thrawn; he snaps his fingers twice, and in comes Ezra Bridger and Hera Syndulla, saluting Mon Mothma and getting ready for their assignment.
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