Starfield - Bethesda's new space IP: will probably be full of fun and easily trackable bugs

[The Early 2000s]

I have two buddies who really think this is the most amazing game that’s come out in a while and I honestly have no fucking clue why.

Do they happen to be Indian?

 

[Cpl. Long Dong Silver]

So the lost colony ship ECS has been through space for 190 years. Everyone is descended from the original monied elites who funded the program. Jobs are passed down by blood unless someone is so bad at it they need reassigned. By the time you find them the only Jew on board is a janitor married to a black guy.........what did Todd mean by this?

 

[Big Fat Frog]

Do they happen to be Indian?

No.

 

[Panoramic Overton Window]

The game not having gore is just retarded.

This and maybe I'm strange, but for me nothing is more immersion-breaking than non-gory violent death. It's fucking violent death, there SHOULD be bloody parts. It's a thing the Fallout series did really well but I have my doubts it will happen again in Fallout 5 should they ever get around to it.

Modern mainstream culture has really been overtaken by the worst faggotry of the left and right.

 

[scathefire]

New Patch is out

All it did was fix one quest and add the FOV slider.

Holy Shit. I think I'm done until mod tools come out and we get an unofficial patch now.

I don't know why they still haven't fixed the bug where the Mercury Tower penthouse will completely reset after completing High Price to Pay, it's probably one of the worst bugs I've learned about. Thankfully I already knew it was going to happen before I got to that point, so crisis averted.

 

[NPZCC]

 

[Miller]

This and maybe I'm strange, but for me nothing is more immersion-breaking than non-gory violent death. It's fucking violent death, there SHOULD be bloody parts. It's a thing the Fallout series did really well but I have my doubts it will happen again in Fallout 5 should they ever get around to it.

Modern mainstream culture has really been overtaken by the worst faggotry of the left and right.

Especially when you shoot the backpack of an enemy and they explode. Imagine the gore in those zero-G fights.

 

[xXx: State of the Union]

I'm starting to see some Starfield lore beards pop up and boy oh boy are the asspulls these guys are doing and the slapfights over it something else lmao

These dudes trying to make sense of Emil's lore will elevate Kirkbride and Kuhlmann to unprecedented levels, I'm sure.

 

[God of Nothing]

So the lost colony ship ECS has been through space for 190 years. Everyone is descended from the original monied elites who funded the program. Jobs are passed down by blood unless someone is so bad at it they need reassigned. By the time you find them the only Jew on board is a janitor married to a black guy.........what did Todd mean by this?

after so long, the long-nose mate with their own golem

 

[Hector Hamsteak]

I'm starting to see some Starfield lore beards pop up and boy oh boy are the asspulls these guys are doing and the slapfights over it something else lmao

These dudes trying to make sense of Emil's lore will elevate Kirkbride and Kuhlmann to unprecedented levels, I'm sure.

I've seen slapfights over whether Victor Aiza (the scientist that created the first grav drive) was The Hunter or not and whether the first Varuun guy was a Starborn. i don't know how you could get immersed in the lore of a multiverse story though. Nothing matters.

 

[xXx: State of the Union]

I've seen slapfights over whether Victor Aiza (the scientist that created the first grav drive) was The Hunter or not and whether the first Varuun guy was a Starborn. i don't know how you could get immersed in the lore of a multiverse story though. Nothing matters.

Victor is the big one with the most asspulls I've seen so far.

I just find it funny, because so many of these people are saying the game TELLS YOU that Victor Aiza (or some version of him) is The Hunter when it absolutely does fucking not. They're whole basis is that The Hunter says he was from Earth, and since Earth was destroyed he has to be Victor since...Victor touched an artifact?

In this day and age of multiverse fatigue, it's crazy seeing people failing to grasp the concept of an infinite multiverse to the point that only *a* Victor can be The Hunter since he touched an artifact in your universe. I've seen only one person so far bring up the fact that The Hunter (this Hunter? a Hunter?) could have just originated from an Earth that was never destroyed.

Of course, maybe I'm over thinking it. This is lore that I presume Emil wrote so maybe the infinite multiverse does in fact only follow a timeline where Earth was destroyed by inventing grav drives, and the only diviations are maybe some people turn evil, Sarah turns into a plant, and your other versions can meet up and fuck each other or whatever.

That isn't even getting into people trying to "make sense" of The Unity itself. It's obvious that they had no intention of this being a thing that could be made sense of, and even if they did have that intention you know Emil would have fucked it up.

 

[Epoch]

I've seen slapfights over whether Victor Aiza (the scientist that created the first grav drive) was The Hunter

I was under the impression he was but I can chalk that up to that entire sequence and story being an absolutely convoluted poorly written mess, and the voice actor sounded the same to me (the skyrim guy). I remember just being confused at the end of it, but it was so laid out and simplisticly written that I wasn't confused at the same time, I guess that's just Emil's genius.

The starborn motivations and whole system is just so vague and poorly thought out and explained for such a basic concept. Like what are they looking for the artifacts for? I thought they said the artifacts were used to become a starborn, but at the same time they were looking for all the artifacts in order to find some other thing, but they explained it as something different from what made them starborn, but then you get all the artifacts and go to 'unity' which is apparently the ultimate thing they were looking for but its actually the thing that makes you starborn but not the thing they did? The whole thing is probably just a first draft.

 

[Scale Smerch]

Bit the bullet, played for a good ~30 hours over the weekend, and seeing where a lot of the complaints are coming from. Biggest weakness IMO is the exploration: it's hyped up, it's the central feature, and it's effectively a mile wide and inch deep. It's fun for the first planet or so (particularly on Kreet when you first get the option to explore), but quickly loses any sense of interest or immersion once you realize the "ruins" are randomly generated from the same pool and it happens for every damn place you land. Why does a lifeless rock have the exact same refinery, robotics facility, and supply depot as the near-Earth planet you just visited? Why are there random pirates, Ecliptic mercs, and/or Va'ruun zealots every half klick in the middle of nowhere? And what makes every nameless moon worthy of dropping random ships right near yours? Once that sameness is revealed a lot of the fun disappears; I got more satisfaction just following the main quest line since it at least kept changing the environments.

That then gets into the ridiculous skill system which locks away key RPG actions you normally expect to have. Pickpocketing? Safe cracking? Most of the stealth system? Arbitrarily blocking those off doesn't improve the experience, it simply pisses me off, especially given how slow levelling up becomes later on. If the player wants to burn all the digipicks on a master level safe right away or piss off the entirety of New Atlantis attempting to steal from the spaceport clerk let them - it's a learning experience and is often where most of the fun in these games lies.

Will agree that mods are likely to make or break this one, though unlike Skyrim it's take some serious TLC given how shallow the core systems are. Would almost think it was deliberate so DLC could fill the holes, but this is Bethesda so very unlikely.

 

[Divine right to rule]

Goddammit, the companions in this game are bad. Compared to them, even the ones in Fallout 4 were great, and they had much less dialogue. They all have the same morals and react identically to every major choice, which is just embarrassingly poor writing.

Sarah is somewhat easy on the eyes and has a nice voice, but she is also a nagging, holier-than-thou hag who really finds soyence heckin awesome.

Sam is a fucking Space Cowboy, who couldn't act less like a cowboy. He is a single father of a mutt daughter, and his introduction is that he doesn't want his daughter to spend time with his father because he would infect her with his conservative views. Otherwise he is extremely bland.

Andreja is remarkably milquetoast for being a member of a secretive apocalypse-cult, she is as postmodern in her morals as all the others, she only likes violent solutions slightly more.

Worst of all is Barrett, who has to be the most insufferable piece of shit in any game ever. A snarky, unfunny, whiny "scientist", gay Nigger who either makes stupid comments or whines about his dead husband. His entire fucking quest is about some shit to clear his husband's name in an incredibly boring quest where you have to collect evidence for a random lawyer chick.

I fucking hate all of these shits, but Barrett is a league of his own. Nobody like him has ever existed in real life. You have to be a leftist retard who never leaves Twitter to believe people like this exist. I hate thiis cunt with every fibre of my being.

 

[Mr. Manchester]

Being a space pirate is pretty fun, I've enjoyed the couple of missions for the main pirate stuff so far. I assume there's a point where I turn on the UC feds but since it's a bethesda game I've been doing a primary quest then fucking off with other stuff so I'm not the leader of a faction in 3 days. Stealing spaceships is pretty fun too. Overall it's a lot better than I thought it would be. It's not 70 dollars good but it's definitely gamepass good.

 

[xXx: State of the Union]

The starborn motivations and whole system is just so vague and poorly thought out and explained for such a basic concept. Like what are they looking for the artifacts for? I thought they said the artifacts were used to become a starborn, but at the same time they were looking for all the artifacts in order to find some other thing, but they explained it as something different from what made them starborn, but then you get all the artifacts and go to 'unity' which is apparently the ultimate thing they were looking for but its actually the thing that makes you starborn but not the thing they did? The whole thing is probably just a first draft.

There's like a single dialog from the Emissary I think which is just like "Starborn are not a collective", and I think you're supposed to take from this that they have different motivations. The Emissary wants the artifacts to protect it from people destroying themselves/the universe, The Hunter wants it to continue to gain more power or simply because he thinks of everything as a game, The Pilgrim wanted it to discover the creators/it's origins (based on the "hidden" high res sketches strown about his home). Then you have the "Mysterious Captain" who is just living their life as a trader not really giving a shit. I've also run across a few random Starborn in the early game who are basically just like mascarading as normal people but imply that they know what you're going to do. (or maybe it was The Trader and that's just what happens if you're not Starborn yet?)

I think it's them rehashing the "who is actually a synth!?" thing from Fallout 4 on top of trying to create some sort of grand mystery like The Mount Chilliad and UFO stuff from GTA V and RDR2 by just throwing shit at a wall and letting autismos run with it.

 

[Hector Hamsteak]

Then you have the "Mysterious Captain" who is just living their life as a trader not really giving a shit. I've also run across a few random Starborn in the early game who are basically just like mascarading as normal people but imply that they know what you're going to do. (or maybe it was The Trader and that's just what happens if you're not Starborn yet?)

A lot of people believe that the Mysterious Trader is another Starborn Alejandra. But I do wonder if there are a lot more hidden starborn across the game that people haven't yet found, for example you do get a cryptic line from the old black woman who asks you to deliver the message to her penpal in Cydonia if you use the [Starborn] dialog option.

Isn't the Pilgrim the Hunter early in his cycle though? If you go with the Victor Aiza theory it goes, Victor Aiza > the Pilgrim > The Hunter > Keeper Aquilus

 

[xXx: State of the Union]

A lot of people believe that the Mysterious Trader is another Starborn Alejandra. But I do wonder if there are a lot more hidden starborn across the game that people haven't yet found, for example you do get a cryptic line from the old black woman who asks you to deliver the message to her penpal in Cydonia if you use the [Starborn] dialog option.

Isn't the Pilgrim the Hunter early in his cycle though? If you go with the Victor Aiza theory it goes, Victor Aiza > the Pilgrim > The Hunter > Keeper Aquilus

Oh yeah, it definitely sounds like her. I've seen people bring up the idea that Bayu could be a Starborn but I haven't even touched Neon quests to know anything about it.

I took it more like The Hunter is a version of The Pilgrim that either didn't or hasn't come to his final conclusion yet. It isn't really a time travel thing so much as it's just alternate versions thing. (although I'm pretty sure that Keeper Aquilus IS The Pilgrim of the Universe you are in, and The Hunter is always an invader version from an outside Universe...if that makes sense?)

As far as the whole Victor thing goes, I'm not against the idea and I see why people would believe it, it's just funny cause I'm seeing the same shit that happened with Skyrim and Fallout 4 where people are treating shit like it's stated by the game when it isnt.

 

[Hector Hamsteak]

I've seen people bring up the idea that Bayu could be a Starborn but I haven't even touched Neon quests to know anything about it.

I took it more like The Hunter is a version of The Pilgrim that either didn't or hasn't come to his final conclusion yet. It isn't really a time travel thing so much as it's just alternate versions thing. (although I'm pretty sure that Keeper Aquilus IS The Pilgrim of the Universe you are in, and The Hunter is always an invader version from an outside Universe...if that makes sense?)

As far as the whole Victor thing goes, I'm not against the idea and I see why people would believe it, it's just funny cause I'm seeing the same shit that happened with Skyrim and Fallout 4 where people are treating shit like it's stated by the game when it isnt.

I've heard the Bayu thing too but I think the only thing that hints at it is his club having the same circle markings that are on a lot of Starborn stuff and the fact he seems to have a pretty big amount of power and might know things before they happen. People are starting to suspect every big character is a Starborn though, even Vae Victis.

That makes sense about the Hunter and I think he actually gives more detail if you side with him and chat to him. Even gets you to kill Aquilus on his behalf iirc.

I personally hate the Victor shit because of that. Multiple people are treating it as gospel truth when all the "evidence" is just conjecture, to the point they think you're a fucking idiot for not agreeing with them.

 

[Tom Nook's Gloryhole]

You basically have to do this to avoid being forced into the SysDef undercover plot after the one mission in the main quest. So instead of going straight to The Lodge, you have to take a detour to either Hopetown or Akila and pay the bounty off there first.

I feel like it's a common theme with people who have played this who were shooting at the Starman through the streets before having this happening and expected the cutscene to be story related.

It's just a really stupid forced thing that makes no sense. After 3 or 4 jail stints then sure, that'd check out because you're a hardened criminal by then... but it has a chance of happening after ONE bounty? And then there's no way to proceed to any UC system without paying off the bounty once the mark has been ticked that you're to be recruited?

Oh and by the way I just need to interject about how fucking pozzed even the fucking Crimson Fleet missions are, turns out the most feared pirate that runs the evil piracy ring is a fucking negress and the second person you encounter is a tiny asian engineer who belittles her, before you go into a marketplace with a bunch of trannycoded women. The entire fucking storyline is choosing between a nigger who abducts you and forces you to work for him or go work for some fucking saints row tier edgy fucktards.

There isn't a single powerful white man in this entire fucking universe? Even the fucking Russians are niggers. Normally I don't give a shit about a little colour to my games but this is just fucking ridiculous.