Starfield - Bethesda's new space IP: will probably be full of fun and easily trackable bugs

How do you think Starfield will turn out?

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I don't even know if this is intentional imagery or just random debris anymore. This game is so pretentious its hard to tell.
 
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Epoch said:
The grav drive they created from the relic found on mars destroyed the magnetic field of the Earth, giving humanity wings but destroying paradise. Knowing the writing so far the painfully obvious Biblical allusions are intentional and the writer probably thought he was clever.

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I could kinda see some of the redditness coming out of the game even before it launching
 
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Epoch said:
The grav drive they created from the relic found on mars destroyed the magnetic field of the Earth, giving humanity wings but destroying paradise. Knowing the writing so far the painfully obvious Biblical allusions are intentional and the writer probably thought he was clever.

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LMAO that is literally just the story of eden but without an intelligent creator planning out the universe. instead it's just replaced by muh science. I known people say this a lot but science has literally replaced religion for these people. same way democracy has replaced religion for others. BRAVO TODD!
 
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Epoch said:
So far the story has now turned into Reddit Atheism and religion being fake or something and my hecking science. I assume this is Emil's doing.
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There's an old interview of Emil talking about the Oblivion dark brotherhood and his inspirations for it. He talks about how he was raised a good Catholic boy and how the Oblivion DB was supposed to be an edgy reddit athiest's inversion of the Catholic church. Double funny because he used to be FAT.

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edit 2: this isn't as old as i thought and he's less fat than he was in 2009
 
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Breadbassket said:
To anyone who has played Starfield so far, does the game deserve its $70 on release price tag?
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I'd argue no game, regardless of how good it is, is worth 70 fucking dollars. And that's coming from someone who pre-ordered FO4 despite predicting the "twist" in the story during the E3 reveal. When you've got millions of people who are going to buy your game, 70 dollars is retarded. 35-50 bucks at most is what I'd consider reasonable. Plus it would allow more people to buy it. The closer you get to 100 bucks the more people you're alienating imo.
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Don't hold your breath. Part of the decline in modding between Skyrim and Fallout4 was the introduction of paid mods, people who previously would share modding materials freely now had to worry about others monetizing their work, there were even problems with people stealing mods and reuploading them for consoles (I can't remember if they directly monetizing them or solicited donations but it was a big shitshow). Quite a few good modders called it quits, and those that remained have rapidly developed a habit of wearing striped programmer socks, so on top of everything we now have troon drama and coomer work ethic.

The days of modders fixing the broken slop that Beth shits out is over, what you have now is the final product.
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I really feel like the paid mods thing was completely overblown in hindsight. It was nothing more than a way to allow modders, at least the good one, a way to profit off their glorified tweaking of someone else's IP. The issue is, none of the worthwhile modders ever did anything for it. You just get a bunch of that cunt elianoras mediocre house mods and some mid armor.

What should have been a way to let people have some sort of Immersive Armour type mods or whatever, turned into "let's shit out some mid tier mod that isn't even half as in depth as what I've done for free". Especially considering the CC was a way to get around Sonys retarded "no external assests" rule.

And this idea of "stealing mods" is fucking dumb. Coming from someone who used make public mods, however shit they may have been, the idea that someone could "steal" work that wouldn't exist without someone else's IP is mind boggling. It's like a Star Wars fan film getting mad that LucasFilm used their ideas. No matter how "original" you think your work is, it wouldn't exist without the source material. Plus if you look at the console mod pages of popular PC mods, they're always crediting the OG author and in most cases they've been given explicit person to port their mods. Some have even asked people to do the work of making their mods console friendly. But those modders aren't the type to cry foul in the first place, because this is supposed to be a community where we all share and build off eachother work
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Asian tech support said:
There's an old interview of Emil talking about the Oblivion dark brotherhood and his inspirations for it. He talks about how he was raised a good Catholic boy and how the Oblivion DB was supposed to be an edgy reddit athiest's inversion of the Catholic church. Double funny because he used to be FAT.
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I first learned of Emil Pagliarulo through this video where he goes into morbid detail about how he can live out his darkest fantasies through video games “I can be talking to someone…and then I can KILL him..and, and ..really feel like I KILLED A PERSON. Then I can pick up his head, put it on a shelf, and be like ‘I was talking to that person just a minute ago, and now he’s dead’ “

the video came out at the time Fallout 3 released but I only found it some time in the early 2010s. It’s been over 10 years now. I recall being flamed on GameFAQs as a creepy psycho for quoting Emil (I linked the video, but started out with the quote to show how weird the guy was), a prominent designer for one of the most popular video games
 
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Epoch said:
They discovered a new element on Mars (Arrakis) that lead to the development of FTL, where have I heard that exact backstory before, oh wait,
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Dune. Everything steals from fucking DUNE!!!! LMAO! IT JUST KEEPS HAPPENING!

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Bless the Manlet, and his gamebryo.
Bless the bugging and patching of Him.
May His skyrim port cleanse the industry.
May He keep the gamebryo for His people.
 
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Rick The Stick said:
, 70 dollars is retarded. 35-50 bucks at most is what I'd consider reasonable. Plus it would allow more people to buy it. The closer you get to 100 bucks the more people you're alienating imo.
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Especially considering how incomplete AAA games are at release. At this point you have to be a fucking retard to not wait for the Steam Summer Sale a year later and get the game 50% off list price.

You get the finished product, at half price. Buy a AAA game at release is retarded and it's amazing to me so many people not only do it, they pre-order it. My brother's in christ, why do you keep going to the well of Satan, get burned by the fires of hell and yet still keep going back?
 
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I'm liking the game okay, it's right about Fallout 4 level so far, and has the potential to go higher if it doesn't get retarded like FO4's plot got later in the game. It really boils down to a person's tolerance to Bethesda games; if you had a good time with their other stuff, Starfield is more of the same. If you didn't like their other stuff, you're gonna hate this too.
 
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Wodanaz said:
Dune. Everything steals from fucking DUNE!!!! LMAO! IT JUST KEEPS HAPPENING!
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I read the first book of Dune and it was mind numbingly boring to me, I don't get why everything copies it recently. But to be entirely fair the whole finding an alien artifact to get FTL isn't new. 2001 did it as well, and I'm sure countless other sci-fi stories. I just think the whole Mars thing specifically and the new element that affects gravity is suspiciously close to Mass Effect's version of events.

In Starfield they use Helium-3 to power it or control it or something. It's been years since I played Mass Effect but that specific point seems familiar to me and I'm not sure why, did they do the same in Mass Effect or something?
 
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While the whole paid mods thing was overblown the damage was done, The shift in attitude towards sharing materials changed overnight, some mods that were advertised in the original launch even used assets from other modders without permission which only worsened the response. As for "stealing" you had people reposting mods without credit and profiting from it in some ways, again a bit overblown but it pissed off modders.
Regardless of our feelings or opinions on the matter there has been a noticeable decrease in both quantity and quality of mods for Beth games after the paid mod drama, and with how Starfield has turned out, I can't imagine the herculean effort needed to polish this turd, and since this is a new IP you won't have as many people from previous games coming back to try and work on mods.
 
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My Earnest Opinions said:
SPOILER ALERT FOR THE ENDING, DON’T CLICK UNLESS YOU FINISHED THE MAIN QUEST OR ARE WILLING TO BE SPOILED

concerning screenshots I saw on /v/

Please tell me that the screenshots I saw which show that your character ends up being known as the Dragonborn Starborn are all fake

Please

source for spoilers from the /v/ archive: https://arch.b4k.co/v/thread/649391650/#649400737
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Judging from the articles on the game, Starborn is the name of some kind of special group of humans apparently.

It may also feed into some idea of a power fantasy plot point.

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Epoch said:
In Starfield they use Helium-3 to power it or control it or something. It's been years since I played Mass Effect but that specific point seems familiar to me and I'm not sure why, did they do the same in Mass Effect or something?
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From what I remember, helium-3's one of the proposed isotopes necessary for a form of fusion power, which could be used for rocket engines, but it's so scarce on earth that you'd need to setup space mining operations for it. So I think it's a fairly common thing in sci-fi settings. I think Mass Effect has it as basically "fuel" for ships, but not used in the mass relays/FTL stuff.
 
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noticeable decrease in both quantity and quality of mods for Beth games
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dk about Beth games as a whole seeing a decrease. I'd definitely day Fallout is a victim of that though. For whatever reason, Fallout is severely lacking in the kind of lobe that TES experiences. Maybe it's just not as popular, maybe its just too grounded, or maybe(IMO) it's too good of a setting and doesn't facilitate as many mod options as TES games do; but it definitely is lacking in both quality and quantity compared to it's sibling. That said, I think this might be a game thats actually tailored to modders. If all these planets are as barren as people are saying, that to me is an indication that Beth wants to give modders a bunch of different sandboxes to play around with. And if the mod tools are as simple as they've been in the past, that's just begging people to experiment and have fun
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