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Makes the whole originator question even louder than before.
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Not until she met Greg 'Thundercock'
Oooooohhhhhhhh!
Becky will just shit out some bargain bin Quintessons.
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Except there’s two flashbacks that contradict this "no life was harmed in the making of this empire" nonsense. One in which Yellow is giving explicit orders to eradicate all the organic (with Yellows responses implying that her forces are dealing with some sort of organized resistance that would indicate intelligence) and another where Pink brought organic life from a planet that was destroyed. And even then, it’s pretty clear that the Diamonds don‘t make any distinction between different types of organic life, so any intelligent species would get the same treatment.
I’m sure Ian would backpedal and say that, sure, the Diamonds destroyed planets that had some clearly sentient life, but that’s not intelligent life so it’s totally different, with absolutely no sense of irony. Nevermind that same logic was used to justify many genocides, but by this same logic humans shouldn’t try to preserve endangered species either. SU being pro-animal abuse confirmed I guess.
They also don’t seem to understand that the reason people don’t accept the Diamonds being redeemed (or "redeemed" even though there’s no indication in-show that we’re meant to see the Diamonds as anything other than quirky aunts who just made a few mistakes) is because they treat everything they did so dismissively. First they show shattering as being the worst thing that can happen to a Gem, and were telling completely okay with people calling the Franken-Fusions a rape metaphor when it got them praise, but now that people are going "hey you know maybe the planet-destroying tyrants just bumming around and hand-waving all the messed up shit they did in the name of control isn’t a satisfying conclusion" is being met with " they step in with this "OMG stop being so edgy! We showed that they can reverse literally everything they did to free them from all consequences in a throwaway scene, that should be enough! Besides we told you they aren’t really redeemed anyways!"
Sometimes I do seriously wonder what sort of skeletons are lurking in their closets that they get this defensive when people point out that their already clunky "everyone deserves a second chance uwu" gets really muddled when you decide to include planet-wide destruction and horrific inhumane experimentation into the mix.
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My personal theory is that it’s saving face to protect their egos; it seems they really into the hype that they were greatest show on earth. So naturally, they’re not going to stand for any criticism and are doing damage control to make it look planned, even if these retcons nullify all stakes in the show and render the plot pointless and meaningless. As seen on the bottom post, they’re right, everyone else is wrong.
I just find it funny; they once prided themselves on kids figuring out and understanding dark and difficult plot points but when another person points the fucked up plot points they themselves put in, you suddenly can’t notice things.
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As awful as future was, I'm happy it ended, instead of trying to milk it until it runs dry. The movie was a high note we can remember. Of course, until in a few years we get Steven Universe: Gem Wars, or Steven Universe: TRANSitioning or something awful like that.
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(ooh I've seen fanart of that and didn't know the name.) Well SU is infamous for confusing "paying homage" with "ripping off" from anime so it wouldn't surprise me if they're still doing it long after the fact with newer anime.
Agreed. If they do revisit SU in ten or so years, pray they get actual japanese studios involved instead of the same team of koreans doing the bare minimum. And let Pearl say one swear.
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yeah, the fuzzy worm thing babbled with intonation indicating it was trying to say something at least half meaningful, meaning it was at least sapient as a dog if not a person, then it hugged PD which indicated it understood affection. The Diamonds are murders. Genocidal murderers. But yeah. Okay becky.
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It's been less than a week and something's happening in the SU fandom sphere again. This time it involves some merchandise, Kickstarter, and the pandemic.
It seems that Cryptozoic, the company behind a bunch of pop culture collectibles (including a set of SU trading cards) and card games, has decided to put up a Steven Universe-themed card game onto a Kickstarter campaign and make the game exclusive to said campaign after Corona-chan fucked up their retail releases and production.
As of 4:13 AM PST it's currently 41% funded but one of its major reward tiers ($25 with the guarantee of being in the initial shipment) is set to expire in 5 hours.
I have a hard time seeing this getting funding in the current climate but I could be wrong. All I know is that making it a Kickstarter-exclusive isn't doing it any favors.
It seems that Cryptozoic, the company behind a bunch of pop culture collectibles (including a set of SU trading cards) and card games, has decided to put up a Steven Universe-themed card game onto a Kickstarter campaign and make the game exclusive to said campaign after Corona-chan fucked up their retail releases and production.
As of 4:13 AM PST it's currently 41% funded but one of its major reward tiers ($25 with the guarantee of being in the initial shipment) is set to expire in 5 hours.
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HBO's Watchmen is nominated 26 times. The praise you've received means nothing.
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I'm ok with this.
Because this was my favorite SU episode and I don't like a lot of SU episodes...at all.
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The story and characters were badly designed, but I have to give credit to the creators for the animation style and the music. Really sets it up to be an ethereal experience, and the thing I enjoyed most about watching the show. If they carried this over into a different non-SJW pandering show about space travel or a Man vs. Self story about a main characters introspection, then I think it would do pretty well. Not sure how well it would compliment a darker, more serious story, but maybe a fusion between this style and something like Samurai Jack (Edgier, less "poppy" with a more dull color-palette) would be promising.
This scene is the one of the most memorable in terms of animation IMO: https://youtu.be/9SgDZhu9LvM?t=7. Only problem I have with it is that some of the timings are uncomfortable and there is no smooth acceleration when they zoom into the diamond design at :32 seconds.
This scene is the one of the most memorable in terms of animation IMO: https://youtu.be/9SgDZhu9LvM?t=7. Only problem I have with it is that some of the timings are uncomfortable and there is no smooth acceleration when they zoom into the diamond design at :32 seconds.
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Haha the show's so bad they're doing post-show retcons.
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Maybe my memory is fucking with me, but i remember that Sugar had an audio interview ( it was on soundcloud ) recently after Trump's victory, and she talked about that she read the study about that bullies will stop bully if they will be educated that bulling is bad ( something like this ). Would be great if someone will find it.
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I dunno if they'll even try to revisit Steven Universe given it's one of the cartoons that is the all-time epitome of woke culture and the fandom is notorious even among SJW's.
If we see the big backlash against woke culture, I could definitely see Steven Universe and the wider CalArts trend being viewed with the same disdain as the old Synchro-Vox cartoons from the late 1950's or the local access kid shows from the 60's and 70's that were the inspiration for Candle Cove.
Now, I can see Steven Universe maybe coming back as part of some 2010's nostalgia thing in the 2030's or something. We're talking reruns and streaming on something like Boomerang or a spot on some kind of "VH1's I Love The 2010's" type of show. At most, a live-action movie reboot.
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You really think there's gonna be a 2030's at this rate?
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The Cluster is indeed made up of countless victims of the same trauma - bodily violation. That's why it's fucking stupid when the show later reuses it as nothing but a funny giant floating arm gag. They could've really shone here if they implied the Cluster healed itself because it's millions of traumatized strangers managing to bond together and choosing not to lash out (i.e destroy Earth) at the horrible past they all share, but the way it was portrayed as aggressively wanting to 'become whole' and then soothed by Steven's friendship speech makes it look like a problem of 'weh i have no friends i'm so lonely'. It just doesn't work imo in the same way a young child might warm a war vet's heart for being sad at his missing arm and leg but that's not gonna put a dent in his PTSD or teach him anything he doesn't already know about coping without limbs.
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The show made it pretty clear that the Diamonds were depriving planets of life and that's a pretty bad thing for the things living on it. However that's no different from deforestation and the Diamonds don't even consider humans more than animals so I'd be surprised if they catalogued and kept a list of the sentient life that was living on those planets before colonisation happened. It's tragic yes, but not genocide or murder. It fits neither textbook description. For your second point, Gems have always shown elements of being AI or tech (most notably with Pearl interfacing with the hand ship in Jailbreak and Amethyst's form corrupting like a faulty monitor when her gem was cracked). Lastly, Steven really did never forgive the Diamonds. I don't know where the idea of working with the other side to fix a problem was "forgiving someone" but Steven couldn't get away from the Diamonds fast enough in the movie and less said about his stint with White Diamond in Future the better. He knows they're his family, but unlike Andy he really does not want to spend more time with them (to work on fixing THEIR mistakes) than is physically possible. This is backed up by Spinel saying "you never call, you never write" in Homeworld Bound.