Steven Universe - Now a Griefing Thread

[Yamma Damma]

Haha, the fuck even is this thing

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A faggy negro version of this:

 

[Archeops]

my brain cant tell if this is a woman or a man and my brain is having big ow energy because of it

It's because a good portion of the torso is missing from that pic, the one I posted earlier along with face shots indicates that they have the meat and potatoes special between their thighs. As for Shep's "feminine" voice it's because the crew got that NB troon from Pose to voice it. @FluffyTehFennekin also pointed out this only makes Emerald, a character voiced by Jinx Monsoon of Ru Paul's Drag Race fame, look better by comparison even when taking how Jinx got the role (IIRC they begged Sugar for one on Twitter or some other form of social media) into consideration.

 

[FluffyTehFennekin]

Heck, I’d even say Fluorite looks prettier then that Shep freak!

Shep is a living nightmare.

 

[Muttnik]

I just love how they wasted all those Lars/Sadie filler eps only to have it end on a wet fart. I didn't even LIKE the pairing and yet I'm baffled at how flat and pandering this all feels just for extra diversity points.

I hope Spinel comes back and, since characters seem to be regressing YET AGAIN, nukes the whole damn town.

 

[AverageAnimeWatcher]

I just love how they wasted all those Lars/Sadie filler eps only to have it end on a wet fart. I didn't even LIKE the pairing and yet I'm baffled at how flat and pandering this all feels just for extra diversity points.

I still remember how the SU fandom always said that "there are no filler episodes". Yeah turns out it was all BS.

I truly feel sorry for everyone that was invested in that ship. The whole show they were trying to ship them together, one now they broke up off-screen.

Which I wouldn't mind... if this wasn't the last season and just made for woke points.

 

[friedshrimp]

The series is getting boring, imo. any potential for new stories is squandered for more filler, wokeness or just dumb stuff the crew thinks it's clever. (naming a character volleyball, really?)

If this doesn't go the Game of Thrones ending route where Steven inherits his mom's psychotic tendencies and blows the whole city away, then wasted.

 

[Archeops]

Looks like the Shep thing MAY have gotten worse, Animal Control resident SonicFox has shown his faggy-ass support for La Creatura.

SonicFox on Twitter

“I love them...”

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[Celandine]

Idk the only reason Shep was created is to be a plot device character so there ain't much to talk about (except for the dumb name and confusing character design). The character is basically non-existent since they have no personality to speak of and their only purpose is to give answers to Steven. After watching the episode I can't say anything about them and without this character the episode would be the exact same, so it's weird how many people like them solely because they are non-binary.

 

[The handsome tard]

so it's weird how many people like them solely because they are non-binary.

Isnt it still weird how this show and the whole entertainment industry keeps appealing to extremely small minorities in society? And there are two types of Non-binary. The ones with actual genetic mistakes and the ones with mental/emotional problems.
Either way, the former wouldnt want to have its non binary existence paraded around and the latter loves the shit out of it, while acting like a cunt about it.

The series is getting boring, imo. any potential for new stories is squandered for more filler, wokeness or just dumb stuff the crew thinks it's clever. (naming a character volleyball, really?)

If this doesn't go the Game of Thrones ending route where Steven inherits his mom's psychotic tendencies and blows the whole city away, then wasted.

This series always was boring, the issue is that it tried to be something it could never be. If it was more like S1 where stuff happens and then gets solved, then it could been accepted as it was...but they keep trying trying to have these grander stories when they lacked both the format and the creativity to do so. The show tried to be more mature but its made by inmature people, acting like they know these things when they really really dont. The toxic relationship shit gets so awful you start to wonder if Sugar doesnt have a kink about abusive lesbian relationships. It also doesnt help that most of the CGs at this point have become arrogant and unlikable, especially Pearl but Amy and Garnet arent that far behind, they even managed to ruin Paradot to me (who was always my favorite). And if you dare to have an issue with, well, you are racist and yada yada yada.

Oh and trust me, this show wont end on a high note, it will be some cookie cutter safe crap as per usual...with maybe some hints of Sugar's kinks here and there.

 

[Celandine]

Isnt it still weird how this show and the whole entertainment industry keeps appealing to extremely small minorities in society? And there are two types of Non-binary. The ones with actual genetic mistakes and the ones with mental/emotional problems.
Either way, the former wouldnt want to have its non binary existence paraded around and the latter loves the shit out of it, while acting like a cunt about it.

I do agree that it's really weird that so many people in this minor, yet vocal, community live for the idea that their gender identity and sexuality being represented in every medium under the sun, especially in kids shows...yikes. But lately my mentality with tv-shows, cartoons and movies is that: if it's from the USA it'll have at least one character whose sole purpose is to be an LGBT representation and usually I'm never disappointed (not that I necessarily want any, it's cool as long as I like those LGBT characters although it's not the case most of the time). What I'm trying to say that this stuff is unavoidable at this point and I just try to look for the good parts of it all...although there is nothing really good about Shep they are a one not character that's all.

Oh and trust me, this show wont end on a high note, it will be some cookie cutter safe crap as per usual...with maybe some hints of Sugar's kinks here and there.

I'm gonna call it: It'll end with a where-are-they-now scene accompanied with a song (like Adventure Time).

 

[Private Pyle]

I just love how they wasted all those Lars/Sadie filler eps only to have it end on a wet fart. I didn't even LIKE the pairing and yet I'm baffled at how flat and pandering this all feels just for extra diversity points.

I hope Spinel comes back and, since characters seem to be regressing YET AGAIN, nukes the whole damn town.

To repeat what I said earlier, it’s like Regular Show; you don’t care who ends up with who, but after the romance takes up so much time from the main show, you’re naturally disappointed when it was all pointless. At least something like Ross and Rachel ended with them together so there was some resolution.
The show teased it for five seasons and the characters seemed to enjoy each other’s company. Then the final season comes along and it’s all gone off screen. If I didn’t know any better, I swore I missed some episodes.

I still remember how the SU fandom always said that "there are no filler episodes". Yeah turns out it was all BS.

I truly feel sorry for everyone that was invested in that ship. The whole show they were trying to ship them together, one now they broke up off-screen.

Which I wouldn't mind... if this wasn't the last season and just made for woke points.

That’s the sad part of it all; people defended the episodes as not filler and poured their love into them, only for the crew “LOL nope, it meant nothing”.

Sadie forming her own band and getting more confident, with the band growing in success? She broke it up and everyone went their separate ways.

Lars settling down on Earth and finally chasing his passion of baking? He went back into space where he died to begin with.

The human townies being an important part of Steven’s human life and the show? Ended up getting replaced by equally bland Gem townies.

Steven accepting that people change and this is a good thing, while understanding not everything has a happy ending? Is currently having a mental breakdown over people moving on without him, while no one helps.

It’s funny; like Static Cling, SU Future pushes the “change is good/natural” moral so hard it hurts. Yet it ignores or undoes all the development that the characters went through just to push a tired moral they’ve already covered before.

Idk the only reason Shep was created is to be a plot device character so there ain't much to talk about (except for the dumb name and confusing character design). The character is basically non-existent since they have no personality to speak of and their only purpose is to give answers to Steven. After watching the episode I can't say anything about them and without this character the episode would be the exact same, so it's weird how many people like them solely because they are non-binary.

As people like Lily Orchard have shown, you don’t need to have well written characters with personality traits, flaws, and chemistry with others. Just slap a LGBT label on them, use they/them and people will eat out of the palm of your hand.
The weird thing is SU actually has dynamic LGBT characters like Pearl, so it’s a bit disappointing to see them pander to the woke crowd this way. Guess they wanted to make sure they stayed the most “diverse” show after She Ra hit the scene.

 

[Yamma Damma]

That’s the sad part of it all; people defended the episodes as not filler and poured their love into them, only for the crew “LOL nope, it meant nothing”.

Sadie forming her own band and getting more confident, with the band growing in success? She broke it up and everyone went their separate ways.

Lars settling down on Earth and finally chasing his passion of baking? He went back into space where he died to begin with.

The human townies being an important part of Steven’s human life and the show? Ended up getting replaced by equally bland Gem townies.

Steven accepting that people change and this is a good thing, while understanding not everything has a happy ending? Is currently having a mental breakdown over people moving on without him, while no one helps.

It’s funny; like Static Cling, SU Future pushes the “change is good/natural” moral so hard it hurts. Yet it ignores or undoes all the development that the characters went through just to push a tired moral they’ve already covered before.

Agreed. Mainstream creators today are such moronic cowards, I swear to God. They make their stories with the theme of change without having the changes stick. (Adventure time did this like crazy.) And any changes that DO stick either dont make any sense or go against what they themselves established! All for the sake of die-verse-itty! (Legend of korra anyone?)

As people like Lily Orchard have shown, you don’t need to have well written characters with personality traits, flaws, and chemistry with others. Just slap a LGBT label on them, use they/them and people will eat out of the palm of your hand.
The weird thing is SU actually has dynamic LGBT characters like Pearl, so it’s a bit disappointing to see them pander to the woke crowd this way. Guess they wanted to make sure they stayed the most “diverse” show after She Ra hit the scene.

SU's crewniverse is made of 85% Tumblrinas and YOU'RE SHOCKED they pander to the lowest common denominator? They could say Lion is a metaphor for gender fluidity and these seals will still bark about it for a week. SU is ironically turning into TTG in that regard: do whatever it takes to garner buzz about your crapaloni toon show, no matter how shameless it is.

 

[Racist Trash]

remember when I watched the episode where the gems come in a hand shaped ship and thinking to myself, "Yeah, the american military would rain nukes on that thing by now". The goverment and military doesnt seem to exist for some odd reason. And its not like this is addressed in the show like the CGs have a deal with the goverment or something. I know that they say the world isnt like ours but you can tell its just an excuse for them to get away with shit they would never in a "somewhat realistic setting" that the show goes for. It seems that outside of the obviously white corrupt mayor, there isnt any major signs of goverment structure. Or media for that matter. You would think after the water of the ocean began disappearing SOMEONE would fucking investigate that shit, but no, that interesting plot point never happens

Yep much like the gem empire all the potentially interesting background lore is ignored in favour of just terrible filler episodes about some town person, if I remember right from a world map most of Russia doesn't exist and is just a big sea crater. Also the fact that for some reason people have ignored all that gem tech laying around... Oh and a potentially interesting plot point that was brought up by a townsperson was that there was another town like beach city that was just gone one day. BUT APPARENTLY NO ONE CARES THAT A FUCKING TOWN VANISHES AND GIANT HANDS COME FROM THE FUCKING SKY.

 

[Private Pyle]

Agreed. Mainstream creators today are such moronic cowards, I swear to God. They make their stories with the theme of change without having the changes stick. (Adventure time did this like crazy.) And any changes that DO stick either dont make any sense or go against what they themselves established! All for the sake of die-verse-itty! (Legend of korra anyone?)

I used to think that SU was one of the better shows about this; most of the changes actually made sense and they stuck with them for the show’s run. Future just feels like every other show, making changes for the sake of change (in this case, to push Steven over the edge) rather than actually be meaningful. Makes me think season 5 and the movie were the actual end and Future was forced upon them by executives, hence throwing shit at the walls and seeing what sticks.

SU's crewniverse is made of 85% Tumblrinas and YOU'RE SHOCKED they pander to the lowest common denominator? They could say Lion is a metaphor for gender fluidity and these seals will still bark about it for a week. SU is ironically turning into TTG in that regard: do whatever it takes to garner buzz about your crapaloni toon show, no matter how shameless it is.

I guess it’s because I thought SU was one of the shows that had legit LGBT rep rather than be performative. Despite what the fanbase would have you believe, Pearl actually has a personality beyond being gay and her romance is played for equal parts tragedy and redemption. The wedding wasn’t just plopped into our laps, you actually saw Ruby and Sapphire’s relationship develop throughout the show. But instead of actually focusing on preexisting LGBT characters with depth, they took the Tite Kubo route and introduced a bland new character made to pander to the worst parts of the fanbase. At this point, it wouldn’t surprise me if Steven came out as trans or if Connie became a lesbian off screen.

 

[Elpizo]

I guess it’s because I thought SU was one of the shows that had legit LGBT rep rather than be performative. Despite what the fanbase would have you believe, Pearl actually has a personality beyond being gay and her romance is played for equal parts tragedy and redemption. The wedding wasn’t just plopped into our laps, you actually saw Ruby and Sapphire’s relationship develop throughout the show. But instead of actually focusing on preexisting LGBT characters with depth, they took the Tite Kubo route and introduced a bland new character made to pander to the worst parts of the fanbase. At this point, it wouldn’t surprise me if Steven came out as trans or if Connie became a lesbian off screen.

And it came from a show that started out with our main character finding out that his power came from eating ice cream.

Let that sink in.

 

[BroccoliBrain]

I binged Future yesterday and it was mediocre like the rest of the show. Watching Steven 'help' the Gems by basically forcing them to behave like humans is always frustrating, they're fundamentally different on a behavioral level. They're clearly happiest and healthiest doing the roles they're made for, the vast majority of them are fine with that. It's only a minority of Gems who come out 'defective' and are unfairly shattered for it (or would be), like Amethyst, but she is an example of a 'wrong' Gem who is still capable of achieving fulfilling and happy life. This is the most positive message I can take away from SU and it's not even the one they wrote because they're too busy pushing I-don't-even-know and then bungling the execution with millenial ~it's ironic~ humour. Steven forcing his very human ways of thinking on these Gems reads like a shitty therapist forcing their solution on a patient. I'm darkly amused at how those episodes shows how it all goes wrong when you let everyone do whatever they want. By his own advice Amethyst should still be a gluttonous shapeshifting hedonist forever because those things make her happy, but even she found herself wanting to do something productive instead of sitting on her ass like most of the drooling fans of this show. I'm glad Jasper isn't open to Steven's shit and just punches his face in (who worked on that episode? I like how she's drawn with her manly jaw again like her debut appearance, feels more on model for once).

Speaking of Steven, yeah he's a cunt these days. His problem's not just being a bleeding heart with no one to bleed for and he'll ~miss~ his friends, it's that he's got a bad case of Hero Syndrome and can't understand the universe doesn't revolve around him. He is a 16 year old boy. Not only does he misunderstand Lars and Sadie's situation, he outright fabricates a scenario for himself to fix (them not "talking" to each other) and then can't comprehend that the two have resolved things outside his awareness. SU could do something interesting here with a teenaged hero who's already finished his quest, coming to terms with the fact his heroism isn't needed and realising how stunted he is in all other areas, it's a good chance to bring back his dad with the townie setting to do some much needed parenting now that his human side is the one he needs to develop more.

I find that a lot of the woke crowd have creepy obsessions with toxic relationships. They say they're deconstructing them and exploring why they're bad, but when it gets to the point where they can't or don't write healthy relationships, it starts to seem like a fetish. The recent Volleyball episode sticks out in that regard. They could have written a Pearl who was genuinely over Rose and her own person, but she spends the entire time being jealous and insecure, and the conclusion was about her relationship with Rose again. Plus they really didn't have to do the infatuated angle with Volleyball too. It's been done and just felt gross.

That episode was terrible for Pearl's character (both of them). I can't believe they actually went ahead and hooked them up with each other at the end, their relationship literally only exists around the fact "we're both Rose's broken Pearls". I can't imagine either of them would be attracted to each other otherwise. I don't know why Pink Pearl exists as a character when Our Pearl already exists and could have filled the same story role, it's just unnecessary. I'm guessing it was a design they really wanted to use and in the end they went "fuck it, it's our show".
And Mystery Girl's gone to waste because of it. Personally I wouldn't include Pink Pearl at all and use Future to build up between Pearl and Mystery Girl, who's got the same curvy pink bombshell vibe as Rose but a lot of potential to show she's completely different. Then Pearl can move on as she realises she feels attraction to someone (a human no less) that has nothing to do with her Diamond and she can finally enjoy something separate from her trauma. I get how addicting it is to make every relationship 'beautifully sad', Sugar fucking loves them Utena references, but she is no Ikuhara.

 

[The handsome tard]

Yep much like the gem empire all the potentially interesting background lore is ignored in favour of just terrible filler episodes about some town person, if I remember right from a world map most of Russia doesn't exist and is just a big sea crater. Also the fact that for some reason people have ignored all that gem tech laying around... Oh and a potentially interesting plot point that was brought up by a townsperson was that there was another town like beach city that was just gone one day. BUT APPARENTLY NO ONE CARES THAT A FUCKING TOWN VANISHES AND GIANT HANDS COME FROM THE FUCKING SKY.

SO you mean tô tell me that the gems were going Saiyan Invasion Arc and the show never bothered with it? Jesus Christ, this show keeps getting worse and worse, am I suppose to believe humans are utterly incapable doing jack without the Crystal Gems? Way to make your universe feel smaller than a peanut. I kind of wished that there was a version where the invading gems get annihilated GATE style by special forces since we did see that both the Crystal gems and Gem Empire are comprised of incompetent morons who seem to be on top simply because the writers want them to.

 

[Private Pyle]

I binged Future yesterday and it was mediocre like the rest of the show. Watching Steven 'help' the Gems by basically forcing them to behave like humans is always frustrating, they're fundamentally different on a behavioral level. They're clearly happiest and healthiest doing the roles they're made for, the vast majority of them are fine with that. It's only a minority of Gems who come out 'defective' and are unfairly shattered for it (or would be), like Amethyst, but she is an example of a 'wrong' Gem who is still capable of achieving fulfilling and happy life. This is the most positive message I can take away from SU and it's not even the one they wrote because they're too busy pushing I-don't-even-know and then bungling the execution with millenial ~it's ironic~ humour. Steven forcing his very human ways of thinking on these Gems reads like a shitty therapist forcing their solution on a patient. I'm darkly amused at how those episodes shows how it all goes wrong when you let everyone do whatever they want. By his own advice Amethyst should still be a gluttonous shapeshifting hedonist forever because those things make her happy, but even she found herself wanting to do something productive instead of sitting on her ass like most of the drooling fans of this show. I'm glad Jasper isn't open to Steven's shit and just punches his face in (who worked on that episode? I like how she's drawn with her manly jaw again like her debut appearance, feels more on model for once).

Speaking of Steven, yeah he's a cunt these days. His problem's not just being a bleeding heart with no one to bleed for and he'll ~miss~ his friends, it's that he's got a bad case of Hero Syndrome and can't understand the universe doesn't revolve around him. He is a 16 year old boy. Not only does he misunderstand Lars and Sadie's situation, he outright fabricates a scenario for himself to fix (them not "talking" to each other) and then can't comprehend that the two have resolved things outside his awareness. SU could do something interesting here with a teenaged hero who's already finished his quest, coming to terms with the fact his heroism isn't needed and realising how stunted he is in all other areas, it's a good chance to bring back his dad with the townie setting to do some much needed parenting now that his human side is the one he needs to develop more.


That episode was terrible for Pearl's character (both of them). I can't believe they actually went ahead and hooked them up with each other at the end, their relationship literally only exists around the fact "we're both Rose's broken Pearls". I can't imagine either of them would be attracted to each other otherwise. I don't know why Pink Pearl exists as a character when Our Pearl already exists and could have filled the same story role, it's just unnecessary. I'm guessing it was a design they really wanted to use and in the end they went "fuck it, it's our show".
And Mystery Girl's gone to waste because of it. Personally I wouldn't include Pink Pearl at all and use Future to build up between Pearl and Mystery Girl, who's got the same curvy pink bombshell vibe as Rose but a lot of potential to show she's completely different. Then Pearl can move on as she realises she feels attraction to someone (a human no less) that has nothing to do with her Diamond and she can finally enjoy something separate from her trauma. I get how addicting it is to make every relationship 'beautifully sad', Sugar fucking loves them Utena references, but she is no Ikuhara.

It’s clear that they’re trying to do the whole “what now for our hero after the end?” angle with Steven. The problem is the Steven is written so angsty and up his ass, while actually doing nothing about actually finding a purpose in his life. Doesn’t help the characters are suddenly ignorant to his problems, characters that should be around are absent, development once again happens off screen and there’s still filler detracting from the main issue.

and in the end they went "fuck it, it's our show".

Sums up Future so far.

 

[Yamma Damma]

Speaking of Steven, yeah he's a cunt these days. His problem's not just being a bleeding heart with no one to bleed for and he'll ~miss~ his friends, it's that he's got a bad case of Hero Syndrome and can't understand the universe doesn't revolve around him.

Ironically, it DOES revolve around him.

A common criticism by some kiwis up-thread (and Youtuber ScottFalco) is that Steven is present for EVERY SINGLE SCENE that occurs throughout the show. There's not one, NOT ONE episode of SU that happens without Steven there. It's either some off-screen stuff that we'd love to see but don't because Steven isn't there, or something cool that would love to be explored in its own episode arc but that would take hard work and these people are allergic to hard work.

Remember when Steven and Lars went to Homeworld for the first time? We never saw how Gems functioned and thrived when on their key planet. We only saw the vagabonds that crawled around the underground. Fantasy worldbuilding is the bees knees for me so to be denied seeing "A Day In The Life Of" type episodes was bullshit.

Remember Avatar The Last Airbender? In S3, the main cast went to the Fire Nation and saw what life was like on the other side. Firebenders were no longer the war-hungry race of evil, they were everyday people with feelings and flaws just like the main cast. (They also had some cool outfits)

SU should've taken inspiration from Hey Arnold!. There were many episodes that either only had Arnold cameo for some advice or he wasn't there at all and the side characters had their time in the spotlight. SU is so afraid if Steven isn't there, he'll be forgotten about or become unpopular. And that made the rest of the show's plot and characters suffer. More than any conflict ever could. Shouldn't have based him off your brother, Becky.

 

[Granola Grenadine]

Christ, I can barely look at Shep without cringing. What an ugly-ass character design. And I feel the "non-binary" nonsense actually kind of makes it worse, making the character feel more awkward to watch than s/he/it/they already are. But you're TOTALLY TRANSPHOBIC GUIZ if you say so outside of KF.

It reminds me of the intersex shit from a month or so back. IMO, it just feels ham-fisted, insincere, and in some ways outright ignorant.