Stop Killing Games (EU edition) - Moldman vs. Publishers

[Max Free]

Nah dude, fuck gamers. They are the worst consumers and deserve everything bad coming to them. The whole thing was a massive waste of time and effort for no real goal. Getting the EU or UK to legislate anything via populace goal is just hopeless, better to find some autistic Minister to push it instead.

I concur. What the drooling car enthusiast and sports fan was in the past is the Gamer today. Nothing in his skull, and a religious zeal about his favorite "team" and brands. They deserve to get exploited into the grave because that's all what they are worth for. The 300k subscribers Ross has compared to the millions a voice modulated manchild has, who only has his nepotistic parents to thank for his gigs in the video game industry tells you that this sector of entertainment has been overrun by un-supervised children and teenagers vandalizing through the net.
The modern video game enthusiast sits at his chair at home, buys a bug-ridden shitfest of an half-ass-effort for $80 from a multi-billion dollar company, mods and fixes it for free and white knights it's creators against any criticism like a basement dwelling loser a Damsel in Distress.

Hopefully Ross stays the way he is. He is one of the few remaining tolerable YouTubers making content not designed to poke holes in your brain. The old guard really should only enjoy the better games of days long past, and the occasional good one we get every other blue moon.

 

[whatever I feel like]

I did what I could… which was absolutely nothing, given that I don’t live in the UK. Would’ve loved to support this.

I just wanna play Mario 35 again, man. It died way, way before its time for no reason.

As a freebie that people didn't "buy", it wouldn't have been covered even if this won.

 

[SlipNHonkMach2]

The only games I want saved are the MMO's, primarily the ones in the 2000's, many of which have communities that have already created or begun efforts to keep faltering ones afloat via community servers over the years. But should I care about Lawbreakers, Concord, or Madden NFL 2005? I mean I get Ross wants you to think of the little guy, hence why The Crew was chosen as a mascot of this initiative, but I also know that there's countless car games still up that come off as all too similar to the common person, unless you're a hardcore car videogame enthusiast who can differentiate the most autistic of minor details.

And looking at that the dead game list, some of which I played (preordered Vanguard Saga of Heroes in Jan 2007, put in 80+ hours in Gundam Evolution), all I remember for games like Lawbreakers is that during the F2P promo weekends when I tried it out, finding matches was virtually impossible most of the time. Nobody cared for it outside of maybe 20 people who you'd find nonstop in the forums or matches you managed to get, coping and bitching for why so called 'plebs' didn't enjoy Lawbreakers. And this is the major issue - with the exception of the MMO communities that are relatively sizable - these one off obscure titles just do not have a fanbase outside a cluster to speak of to care for it to be around.

Anyways, I get it, it should be about preserving regardless if anyone plays them. But it should come as no surprise that it didn't hit even half of 1 million, because nothing supposedly at stake is worth preserving to the common masses, and if by chance it was, the community would be using every trick in the book to revive it like they do with MMOs. Even Everquest Online Adventures for the PS2 saw a community server launch last year.

 

[GhastlyGhost]

The only games I want saved are the MMO's, and many of which have communities that have already created or begun efforts to keep faltering ones afloat via community servers over the years. But should I care about Lawbreakers, Concord, or Madden NFL 2005? I mean I get Ross wants you to think of the little guy, hence why The Crew was chosen as a mascot of this initiative, but I also know that there's countless car games still up that come off as all too similar to the common person, unleess you're a hardcore car videogame enthusiast who can differentiate the most autistic of minor details.

The fact of the matter, is that as few as they are, people did in fact pay for Concord and Lawbreakers, and deserve the opportunity to continue to use their property.

 

[30+GameOvers]

The fact of the matter, is that as few as they are, people did in fact pay for Concord and Lawbreakers, and deserve the opportunity to continue to use their property.

People meme on Lawbreakers, but I legit wanted to at least try the game in an offline mode, if it had one, to see how an oldschool shooter with classes and advanced movement of the newer games would work. From what I have seen, the environments are also beautiful but we will never see them again, aside from what is there in a handful of Youtube videos. Concord, I don't think anyone will ever miss, but it is the principle that counts.
There should never be an instance where a game just goes poof, gone, can never be played again. I can still find and play obscure games you have never seen or heard before, even if they're awful I can still go thru the process of installing them and trying them out. Who knows, maybe they will even be good. You can't do that with a game that has been killed. I don't see how anyone supports this, they must be quite a charmer to talk to if they just casually mention in passing conversations they're pro-book burning, which this is a video game equivalent of.

 

[That Other Dude's Persona]

I legit wanted to at least try the game in an offline mode, if it had one

I don't think it had one, the lack of even some basic bitch bots to play against was pretty crazy at the time. Battleborn is another wild case I can think, so many characters and solo story missions that didn't need to be online-only to begin with, all gone for no reason.

And it's only getting worse. Try arguing with a Destiny 2 faggot about how Bungie deleting purchased content, story missions and planets is maybe possibly a bad thing and watch them become corporate shills doing mental gymnastics about how that's a good thing actually.

 

[30+GameOvers]

I don't think it had one, the lack of even some basic bitch bots to play against was pretty crazy at the time. Battleborn is another wild case I can think, so many characters and solo story missions that didn't need to be online-only to begin with, all gone for no reason.

The real loss here is that Rick and Morty football game mode that maybe 60 people total ever played

And it's only getting worse. Try arguing with a Destiny 2 faggot about how Bungie deleting purchased content, story missions and planets is maybe possibly a bad thing and watch them become corporate shills doing mental gymnastics about how that's a good thing actually.

I kind of wanted to try Destiny 2 just for the sheer amount of content it must have up until this point. Then I found out that there is content regularly just deleted, gone, even weapons and armor taken out of your inventory for no reason. You're not even renting the game at this point, only individual pieces of content within it like an Asian F2P P2W MMO. Bungie gets everything it deserves with the nu-Marathon slopmake.

 

[That Other Dude's Persona]

The real loss here is that Rick and Morty football game mode that maybe 60 people total ever played

I was one of the dozens of people that bought it, but I barely remember anything about the game. It had some cool verticality, I guess.

 

[#lurker]

The real loss here is that Rick and Morty football game mode that maybe 60 people total ever played

I kind of wanted to try Destiny 2 just for the sheer amount of content it must have up until this point. Then I found out that there is content regularly just deleted, gone, even weapons and armor taken out of your inventory for no reason. You're not even renting the game at this point, only individual pieces of content within it like an Asian F2P P2W MMO. Bungie gets everything it deserves with the nu-Marathon slopmake.

I love old school FPS as much as the next guy, but it's still really shocking that ANYONE at that company thought that game was going to be big seller. So out of touch.

 

[SlipNHonkMach2]

Lawbreakers had a hideous artstyle for its characters. But that goes without saying. It was ok as a hero shooter, but I was saying to myself "You know, I rather play Unreal Tournament 2k4 as one of those goofy characters instead with a bunch of bots"
And god damn did CliffyB purposely try to make the most ear grating trailer with that Blitzball update? He once was almost as egotistical and tryhard 'how do you do fellow kids' as Randy Pitchford was before he was humbled by Lawbreakers catastrophic failure.

 

[Hermiöne Granger]

Lawbreakers is gone forever and that is a good thing. No one wants to see trans toilets in their video game.

 

[Squawking Macaw]

Things aren't looking good. It's sad but not surprising, asking gamers not to be cattle is like arguing with a wall and expecting to win, not helped by the fact that shit practices like GaaS, microtransactions and day 1 DLC are becoming normalized. We fight against them because we played games in an age where they didn't exist, but for younger zoomers or gen alpha? It's normal to them.

Not to mention that Ross didn't choose the best platform to petition. I mentioned it in this thread before, but a petition about vidya would not survive in the ECI. There are currently 8 active initiatives, here they are from most successful to least:

1. A petition that wants to ban the slaughter of all animals for food. Period. (link)
2. A petition about including a food's origins on its label. (link)
3. Stop Killing Games (link)
4. A petition in favor of therapy with psychedelic drugs. (link)
5. A petition about renovating homes instead of demolishing them. (link)
6. Something about decreasing carbon emissions in air travel? (link)
7. A petition about defending farmers' rights and food production. (link)
8. A petition about increasing water efficiency and reducing waste, I guess? (link)

The success rate is pathetically low, only 10 out of 120 petitions got an answer and the last one was in 2022. And once you finally get through all the painfully slow EU bureaucracy you might just be told no because the EU is staffed by boomers who are too busy making native Europeans' lives miserable to care about vidya.

 

[Mike Matei's Penis]

Good fucking god those clips of Pirate Software purposely misinterpreting everything to be about "single player games" were unfucking sufferable in the Ross video. What a cunt

 

[wtfNeedSignUp]

I think one of the big mistakes in the campaign is not really having a good game to point at. It would have really helped to pass the word around and prevented misinformation.

Every movement needs a martyr.

Of course gaming quality today is so dogshit it's hard to find a good example, even gacha which gets killed all the time seemingly has people proud at how disposable it is.

 

[Ser Prize]

I think one of the big mistakes in the campaign is not really having a good game to point at. It would have really helped to pass the word around and prevented misinformation.

Every movement needs a martyr.

Of course gaming quality today is so dogshit it's hard to find a good example, even gacha which gets killed all the time seemingly has people proud at how disposable it is.

I thought The Crew was a perfect example.

 

[Miller]

I love old school FPS as much as the next guy, but it's still really shocking that ANYONE at that company thought that game was going to be big seller. So out of touch.

Also the absence of art direction made it look like a UE4 asset flip.

 

[#lurker]

The current momentum is good, but it will be all for nothing if it goes right back to a crawl again. Hopefully all the sloptubers get on board and it stays in the spotlight right up until the deadline.

 

[Aesthetic Liminal Pool]

I'm murrican but passed the links along to some yookay-ians that I know. 32k sigs +3-4.

 

[Chuck 'n Geck]

1. A petition that wants to ban the slaughter of all animals for food. Period. (link)

4. A petition in favor of therapy with psychedelic drugs. (link)

...god, the very same lemmings that keep saying that "you will own nothing and be happy" is a conspiracy theory are actually, literally backing the Reichstag's talking points.

I mean...

[probably the only remaining "clean" sauce]

It is very tangentially related, but I'm not gonna spoil it because the question of ownership is very much on topic. Also, Big Faggotry must die.

 

[Hermiöne Granger]

Looks like it is still going, so far its 575,791 signatures towards 1,000,000 goal. The deadline is 31/07/2025.

https://citizens-initiative.europa.eu/initiatives/details/2024/000007_en