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SteelPlatedHeart said:
You really can please no one. You put in a stage with hazards and such, people complain about it not being “legal” or how hazards are stupid. You make tournament legal stage, people complain about it being too boring and not exciting enough.
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Imagine trying to appeal to competitive smash players.

I play the game to have fun
 
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SteelPlatedHeart said:
You really can please no one. You put in a stage with hazards and such, people complain about it not being “legal” or how hazards are stupid. You make tournament legal stage, people complain about it being too boring and not exciting enough.
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Competitive Smashfags are worse than Smogonites. At least Smogonites will adapt around something that is polarizing, to the best of their ability of course. Smashfags just slam the hammer on everything without adapting.
 
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SteelPlatedHeart said:
You really can please no one. You put in a stage with hazards and such, people complain about it not being “legal” or how hazards are stupid. You make tournament legal stage, people complain about it being too boring and not exciting enough.
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If you're a tourneyfag and complaining about a stage not being legal you're just a dumbass and I think even the top players will agree on that. The game isn't made for the compfags and in addition to that fact theres already a niggton of legal stages so much so that a decent chunk of them don't even make it to most stagelists.
 
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SteelPlatedHeart said:
You really can please no one. You put in a stage with hazards and such, people complain about it not being “legal” or how hazards are stupid. You make tournament legal stage, people complain about it being too boring and not exciting enough.
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From experience playing along side this very autistic group of people they don't need to be pleased. They're all mentally broken soon to be troons that can't accept that their game is nothing more than easy to recognize icons that you can bust out at a party or get together for fun once in awhile. They can't separate comp time to fun time and will go over mechanics when nobody clearly gives a shit.

If they wanted a competitive game play anything else made for competitive play since smash inspired tons of better offshoots, but it always gets shot down cause they can't cope with the fact that it doesn't have their autistic icons in it.

Go nuts on temple with 8 people like the game is designed for.
 
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I would have more respect for the people trying to play Smash competitively if they had a genuine love for the game, but most of the people you see drowning in pools and getting tiny splashes of fame here and there in local scenes are all lazy faggots who are constantly complaining about how dumb the game is.

Like, seriously, they'll bitch and moan about every single mechanic and character and tier-whore the fuck out of the game while simultaneously bashing other players for being carried. And at the end of the day, I've never met a "good player" who's ever said they wanted to try hard in the game. It's always "Oh I just want to do this because it's easier." Never about the game or the community, I swear most of the people join the scene to score an easy $20 at some kid's local tournament and jack-off to the *idea* of being a good player rather than do anything even remotely resembling a healthy competitive scene.

Maybe Melee is full of try-hard neckbeards, but at least they actually LIKE the game they play.
 
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Sandraker said:
From experience playing along side this very autistic group of people they don't need to be pleased. They're all mentally broken soon to be troons that can't accept that their game is nothing more than easy to recognize icons that you can bust out at a party or get together for fun once in awhile. They can't separate comp time to fun time and will go over mechanics when nobody clearly gives a shit.

If they wanted a competitive game play anything else made for competitive play since smash inspired tons of better offshoots, but it always gets shot down cause they can't cope with the fact that it doesn't have their autistic icons in it.

Go nuts on temple with 8 people like the game is designed for.
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X-Shaped Weeaboo said:
I would have more respect for the people trying to play Smash competitively if they had a genuine love for the game, but most of the people you see drowning in pools and getting tiny splashes of fame here and there in local scenes are all lazy faggots who are constantly complaining about how dumb the game is.

Like, seriously, they'll bitch and moan about every single mechanic and character and tier-whore the fuck out of the game while simultaneously bashing other players for being carried. And at the end of the day, I've never met a "good player" who's ever said they wanted to try hard in the game. It's always "Oh I just want to do this because it's easier." Never about the game or the community, I swear most of the people join the scene to score an easy $20 at some kid's local tournament and jack-off to the *idea* of being a good player rather than do anything even remotely resembling a healthy competitive scene.

Maybe Melee is full of try-hard neckbeards, but at least they actually LIKE the game they play.
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Stagebuider beign added back is the best shit and comp players will NOT use anything from it unless forced to. A few years back when stage builder came out I made some neat shit where the floor falls out and fighters have to fight solely in a wind current using arial attacks. A number of guys I've played against on the stage that are into comp smash fucking hate it and don't want to learn how smash bros. wind gimmick physics work. Even when I give an explanation on how I figured out it works through testing stuff they just don't absorb the info and flail about aimlessly compared to players that play more than just comp smash. If you press down you start going down indefinitely but if you attack or jump while it's happening you fly back upwards.

I bring this kinda stage up because it turns out the stages I made with that gimmick are fucking perfect for sora's arial advantage thing. It's always funny watching comp guys turn into braindead spammers when taken out of their element and rant about how they "understand it but it's not fun" while clearly failing to grasp the actual strategies one could take from a stage. I reccomend you make a stage like this for yourself and try that shit out. Just make sure there's SOME stable ground so a small button press fucky doesn't result in an instant die moment, but also make sure it's constantly moving and gyrating so the compfags can't camp it like it's a ledge. A lot of modern Comp smash players literally CAN NOT learn on the fly like other players can it's fucking wild.
 
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The Lawgiver said:
constantly moving and gyrating so the compfags can't camp it like it's a ledge
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See, I get what you're saying, but the fact that you want the stage to be moving at all already presents the problem you're trying to prevent at a much worse scale, as most stages with moving parts give an insurmountable advantage to mobile characters and thus are the reason why the vast majority of them aren't' played.

Just stick a Little Mac vs a Diddy Kong on a stage even as simple as Kongo Jungle 64 and you'll instantly see what I mean.
 
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X-Shaped Weeaboo said:
See, I get what you're saying, but the fact that you want the stage to be moving at all already presents the problem you're trying to prevent at a much worse scale, as most stages with moving parts give an insurmountable advantage to mobile characters and thus are the reason why the vast majority of them aren't' played.

Just stick a Little Mac vs a Diddy Kong on a stage even as simple as Kongo Jungle 64 and you'll instantly see what I mean.
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Kongo jungle 64 is a fun stage. DK's smash stages are top notch quality stuff. Mostly stable, but with some small factors off to the side you gotta keep aware of on top of enemy players. if something as simple as a slightly moving platform is a problem for people it really shows how fucking far smash players have fallen due to comp-standards rot lmao.
Generally I've played smash on pretty much all stages with items off since forever with occasional items matches. I'm not the best at smash but I'm also not the worst at smash. Never entered a longform tournament due to them all being in inaccessible locations or areas I wasn't really in at the times when I actually felt like trying that sort of thing but I'm confident enough with my skills from how close matches have been between me and people actually in comp shit. Not 100% wins every time but not 100% losses either Fun times all around.

On the topic of DK, I fucking hate the fact they butchered the DK rap even further in smash ultimate. It doesnt even loop correctly and a bunch of lyrics are omitted. It was originally just a funky weird remix of the original that was generally considered inferior to the source but now it's literally un-listenable. God damn shame is what it is.
 
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Computer Guardian said:
can't wait to see the final view count, as if it's at a low count, then it would again prove how little smash has in the competitive scene.
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Well that random smash stream got twice as many viewers as the most recent Capcom pro-tour stream for Niche Fighter V, so I guess competitive smash has a pretty decently sized fan base.
 
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If you told me 3 years ago that there would be a top player more cringe, socially oblivious and up their own ass than hbox I wouldn't have believed you, yet here we are.
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