Just as a contrast: earlier this year I backed a different campaign for the new edition of a TTRPG I was interested in. That company had done this before and had their shit together. They kept their backers updated, were up-front about delays and production issues, paid attention to the feedback from the beta release of the rules, and delivered their product in a reasonable time frame that was more or less what they'd quoted at the outset. Everything I ordered showed up all together and in excellent condition, and before I'd gotten my TC models. That company has earned my trust as a consumer and I'll happily support their future releases. Compared to them, TC can eat shit.
No one should ever give money to kickstarters. But when you do, look at what the team behind it have put out previously.
If no one on the team has shipped product before, stay the fuck away.
And I don't just mean "used to work at Blizzard" or some shit. I mean someone on the leadership of the team was like a Project Manager For Gamesworkshop or something - someone who has ACTUALLY shipped a project and knows what is coming down the pipe.
Chris Roberts, the Star Shitizen guy, had worked on videogames for like 30 years, but was always a "Programmer" or "Creative". I very nearly Kickstarted that game until I did some digging on Roberts and then noped the fuck out.
Also if a project goes over triple its funding, cancel your pledge. It will be cheaper and less stressful to either buy someone else's wholly intact shipment from Ebay, wait till it hits retail, or buy the overstock. Because scope creep will utterly fuck the project.
"But muh EARLY ADOPTER".
I just want to point out in Trench Crusade's case how utterly retarded that argument is.
You want to give the Frostgrave guys $400 so you get early access to the S&M Elves faction, ok. Presumably you already play the game and have people to play with, and you can plop down your BDSM Elves and be King Shit lording over the normies for 8 months until the store gets their retail boxes.
But no one is playing Trench Crusade becasue its never been released. There is no Trench Crusade leagues or tourneys. All getting your minis early means is you get a 6 month head start on everyone else when it comes to Not Painting Your Minis.
You are signing up to evangelize a game
THAT DOESN'T EVEN EXIST, hope its good, and hope you can get more than one other person to play.
GamesWorkshop is the 8-million pound gorilla of the wargame space and even if you bring your extra armies (because every GW cuck has at least 2 and usually 3) you can't always find another GW player.
The book is now a glorified artbook, which is what it should have been from the start considering their decision to have the rules be a free, living document.
No one understands what Errata is for anymore.
wtf? That makes no sense, their rules team have an entire fucking campaign system and possible expansion factions to write. I was referring to a 1.1, and they did a 1.01? That's the opposite of making sure that the updates are meaningful and substantial. Wanting to make sure you're playing the same version of the game doesn't necessarily have anything to do with being a sweaty try-hard if all you want to do is just make sure you're all using the same fucking rules. Who the hell wants to be playing 1.0 of a game vs 10 versions later at 1.3.12 or whatever unless it's the old 1.0 having some broken shit that gives an advantage?
See making rules requires playtesting and boring stuff. They just want to put out more edgelord art and write about how Islam is the only protection against evil or w/t/f ever.
Probably sucking off trannies as well.
From what I can gather, they let their game be in playable beta for quite some time and the fanbase rules lawyered and broke it in some ways, found genuine oversights in others, factions were janky.
I might be off base, but the current state of the internet seems to end up giving a lot of leeway to retarded rules churns and tweaks, its happened to 40k, to OPR, I've heard Warcrow got hit with that too. Etc. So TC thought they could get away with it, even though their LARP of being a totally reel published game necisitated a hefty printed book, where atleast some games admit to being PDF first and foremost. They should've just sold worldbooks with no rules and just told the fanbase to print them at the risk of constant update, but they seemingly can't do shit right
The fact retards gave them this much money for a game that didn't exist is just lol.
