Tabletop Roleplaying Games (D&D, Pathfinder, CoC, ETC.)

[Adamska]

Drow Druid, troon, left the Underdark because the females don't recognize the troon as a female and muh oppreshun!!!!!

If you can make a divine magical item or arcane magical item, then you sure as fuck can make the body you deem yourself as being trapped in.

Holy shit this is not hard.

Adding to this, I hatehatehatehate their result descriptions except one. "Some success" "some failure" - go fuck yourself. Qualify that shit, don't put out some half-baked story game shit. The spur things I sort of like, which is dice from the pool you reroll if you have a talent that applies to the roll.

Faggots are just aping PBTA with that shit and pretending they didn't. "Success but complication" is literally them just taking the basics and then filing the numbers off with tweaks and demanding you pay for that shit.

Apparently just rolling dicepools where only 5s and 6s, or just plain 6s are too hard to fucking do. It's all the same reinvention of a wheel, but they fucked it up and made it a crooked oval.

At least with gimmick dice like in Edge of Empires, you had separate ones for successes and advantages, which made more sense. Still ass though since it makes it harder to play in virtual.

 

[Ghostse]

Apparently just rolling dicepools where only 5s and 6s, or just plain 6s are too hard to fucking do. It's all the same reinvention of a wheel, but they fucked it up and made it a crooked oval.

That's my issue. They have two kinds of die, and It looks like the result on a normal die is
1-2: Kill yourself loser
3-4: Reroll if you have a talent, otherwise kill yourself.
5: You won a little
6: You won! Maybe you win enough something cool happened.

And on the "better" die its kill yourself on a 1 and either little win or reroll is expanded. Or just say when its better die "Roll D6+1, only count natural 6's as Ace's or whatever they're calling their Exploding Die system.
Just have a fucking table, use numbers not your gay symbols.It looks like they're using metal die too, which makes the fact you can't use your fancy dive for any other game all the more galling.


I have some friends who this firefighter game that uses "custom" D8s; the its a normal 1-8 die but the opposing faces don't add up to 9. This is because some events require that you "flip" the die to read the opposing face. So THAT I get. (Though I wish the game just had a table of "IF this number, that number" on a card, but ) and unless you playing with a real vegas sperg, you can use that D8 in other games.

 

[Senwosret III]

Serious suggestion is to just boot them now. They are just testing the waters and will continue dancing around the edges to inject their troon faggotry. Though I will say a drow trooning out makes a degree of sense, the gender special nonsense is now beyond parody - 15 years ago Grogmor the half-orc PRETTY PRINCESS demanding to use the Ladys' would have been funny. Now its the sad reality of clownworld.

Had the conversation with the players. Probably could've handled it better, but eh. Two players called me a bigot, asked me to "do better" and be all inclusive, then left. One even claimed to extend an olive branch when he asked for me to bend over an beg for an excuse. Nigger it isn't my job to coddle your sensibilities, it is my hobby and I will run my games how I want.

Quite surprisingly, the player who wanted to play the troon apologized and backtracked, but eventually quit without saying a word. Game's dead, but no game is better than a bad game. I've probably been banned or blacklisted from the 4e discord server, but oh well. I prefer older editions, and troons infest that server anyway. It was just a question of time.

The two other players are the ones I'm genuinely sorry for. They apologized if they ever did something wrong, one seemed to agree and thanked me for drawing the line in the sand. Worse yet, they were the only players that never posed a problem, were always on time, didn't pull dumb stuff or try to abuse my goodwill. Hell, one's a great rules lawyer, keeping both DM and player in line with rulings. I will miss these two.

Fuck the clown world we live in, I want to go back when this type of stuff didn't permeate our hobbies. I think my hatred for tranny shit has peaked since a long while.

How would that even work the Drow just let a male not only leave without permission though also just not outright kill him for pretending to be his betters. Any Drow would have just killed the troon as I assume it's a male that somehow got polyformed into a female.

If you can make a divine magical item or arcane magical item, then you sure as fuck can make the body you deem yourself as being trapped in.

Holy shit this is not hard.

That is the problem I keep finding. Belts that change sex exist, Remove Affliction and similar spells cure handicaps. Logically there is no reason to have such character concepts. But no, it is evil to suggest these solutions. You really can't win when people want to be their super special snowflake: the world has to bend to their whim. I really wonder if this type of people ever have met a real human being outside and had a conversation. They think people are a hivemind and cannot fathom someone has a dissenting opinion. This has taught me the valuable lesson of gatekeeping harder, and to abandon games if they ever go online for any reason.

 

[Catch The Rainbow]

I'd need to see if there's a quickstart or playtest somewhere.

https://runefoundry.com/products/wild-imaginary-west-rpg-quickstart-guide

Quick start is here. Would post PDF but I don't know if rune foundry watermarks.

I'm confused what Spur does. It seems to do nothing unless you happen to have a special relevant talent that lets you reroll. If someone rolls spur without it, they are kinda just stuck but you can't just go nothing happened to a skill check.

Don't see the point of it but I'm probably heavily misunderstanding it

 

[#1 Hot Sauce of Kiwi Farm]

That is the problem I keep finding. Belts that change sex exist, Remove Affliction and similar spells cure handicaps. Logically there is no reason to have such character concepts. But no, it is evil to suggest these solutions. You really can't win when people want to be their super special snowflake: the world has to bend to their whim. I really wonder if this type of people ever have met a real human being outside and had a conversation. They think people are a hivemind and cannot fathom someone has a dissenting opinion. This has taught me the valuable lesson of gatekeeping harder, and to abandon games if they ever go online for any reason.

As a Drow player I will try to hold back my disdain for those who attempt to make special snowflake Drows and keep my rant brief. Drow are arrogant and think they are above others especially anything that is not Drow. However excluding Drizzt who only lived because the writer said so. Drow children are not treated kindly. Anyone who acted out of line or showed any kind of weakness would have been culled by either their family or students who want to gain a advantage over the rest.

It is nothing short of a miracle that Drizzt happened to be born into a Drow family that cared for and spoiled him. I am not saying you can not make Good Drow far from it though having you special little princess walk away unscathed and not near death or betrayed in a raid or plan to rid their house/family from such a worthless member is frankly next to impossible.

It would have been better to simply make a female character surface Drow that worships Eilistraee. However they won't do that as that does not fit these freaks MO. They always say they want to be women however they always make sure to tell you that they are Trans. The reality is, is that this person character should be a Male Vhaeraun worshiper that pretends to be a women to trick and kill Drow females as not only do they hate women, but want they want to show that they are better than them.

 

[Tom Bombodildo]

The two other players are the ones I'm genuinely sorry for. They apologized if they ever did something wrong, one seemed to agree and thanked me for drawing the line in the sand. Worse yet, they were the only players that never posed a problem, were always on time, didn't pull dumb stuff or try to abuse my goodwill. Hell, one's a great rules lawyer, keeping both DM and player in line with rulings. I will miss these two.

Why don't you just send them a message or a friend request to keep up with them and then invite them to the next game you run? The elites don't want you to know this but players are free you can take them into new games I have over a dozen good players.

 

[Snekposter]

You can really tell who in the party cut their teeth on older editions by looking at how many weapons/tools/useful equipment they have listed on their sheet.

I've never done those, but since I've heard stories I still try and make sure I have a nice collection of random stuff that might possibly be useful. Hell, I have a character who explicitly refuses to smoke because he doesn't want to risk lung cancer cutting his elven lifespan short (being an adventurer is dangerous enough for him) and he still carries a pack of cigs around since there's no better way to make a friend in the bad part of town than by having a cig and a lighter handy, on top of cigs themselves being a handy barter good in remote areas.

 

[Senwosret III]

Why don't you just send them a message or a friend request to keep up with them and then invite them to the next game you run? The elites don't want you to know this but players are free you can take them into new games I have over a dozen good players.

Done that, one of them I know in person, so it makes things a bit easier. At least this fiasco served to separate the wheat from the chaff.

 

[Judge Dredd]

ACKS fleshes out economics, population, henchmen, base construction, and more. The econ stuff is detailed enough to change the game without being cumbersome to run. Basically, each town has a class, and the class affects the availability of goods. You won't be buying plate armor or fencing a magical amulet in a fishing village. It affects the game nontrivially, because your party actually does need to travel major cities to get things done.

I will have to look into this. Thanks.

Do any of you niggers actually play and/or run games that you enjoy? Do you always hit your players up with this kek or cringe inquisition instead of trying to enjoy the hobby or find people to enjoy the hobby with? I hate theater kid tourists as much as the next guy, but damn, it seems like some of you guys are just incapable of having fun with a game.

Me.

I find a lot of the TTRPG negativity online to be overblown and largely dumb. For me, the issue is always finding and keeping players. I have no problem with freakshit, I have no problem with most rule systems provided they're functional. However, I guess you call me a filthy casual because I have no loyalty to old editions, tolkien purity, or any of the other stuff online communities and grognards complain about.

In 5e, people can play any race in any way they 'feel.' It’s often a fetishistic, superficial, and idiosyncratic way of playing. I’ve seen many Tabaxi monks chosen simply because they move fast, all of them played like a person in a furry costume—burping up hairballs, grooming with their tongues, that sort of degeneracy. They never look at the books, and even if they do, there isn’t much there beyond "Oh, they are hunters, killers," etc.

Beyond aesthetic and build value, race doesn’t matter.

Then you look at Dark Sun’s Thri-Kreen. There are 60 pages of lore behind them: their habits, culture, behavior, psychological and physiological traits, their speech abilities, their written and spoken languages, their behavior toward others, and so on. In 5e, they are just there for their traits and maybe for some quirky degenerate to have fun with.

You completely lost me. Character race being an aesthetic or build value is the whole point, isn't it? Lore is a factor of that aesthetic appeal. I like the look and warrior/honour culture of Dragonborn. I like the northern England personality and craftman philosophy of dwarfs. This even applies to classes. I enjoy the Warlock class because of their gifted power or power-for-a-price backstory even though they're a bit crap mechanically. I like Paladins as an avatar of justice or vengeance.

Then you immediately talk about Dark Sun (take a shot) and that settings freakshit race. "I'm a sick lizard man!" vs "I'm a sick beetle mantis man!" is the exact same to me.

This also raises my problem with the purists, because to me, players can lean into or away from their races stock traits, and that's a good thing. Otherwise you run into the Klingon problem, where if everyone is a warrior searching for honour, how are they technologically advanced, since someone would have to be a nerd inventing computer systems and the like.

 

[King Dead]

You completely lost me. Character race being an aesthetic or build value is the whole point, isn't it? Lore is a factor of that aesthetic appeal. I like the look and warrior/honour culture of Dragonborn. I like the northern England personality and craftman philosophy of dwarfs. This even applies to classes. I enjoy the Warlock class because of their gifted power or power-for-a-price backstory even though they're a bit crap mechanically. I like Paladins as an avatar of justice or vengeance.

Then you immediately talk about Dark Sun (take a shot) and that settings freakshit race. "I'm a sick lizard man!" vs "I'm a sick beetle mantis man!" is the exact same to me.

This also raises my problem with the purists, because to me, players can lean into or away from their races stock traits, and that's a good thing. Otherwise you run into the Klingon problem, where if everyone is a warrior searching for honour, how are they technologically advanced, since someone would have to be a nerd inventing computer systems and the like.

I think there's a balance that can be struck, one that WotC basically refused to do, whether it's because they've gone woke or are simply lazy.

The TCE rule about changing racial ability scores, verbatim, is:

The Ability Score Increase trait in a race reflects an archetypal bit of excellence in the adventurers of this kind in D&D's past. For example, if you're a dwarf, your Constitution increases by 2, because dwarf heroes in D&D are often exceptionally tough. This increase doesn't apply to every dwarf, just to dwarf adventurers, and it exists to reinforce an archetype. That reinforcement is appropriate if you want to lean into the archetype, but it's unhelpful if your character doesn't conform to the archetype.

Put another way, racial ability scores reflect a tendency of that race towards certain traits, but not every member of that race is going to be exactly the same. The average example does not preclude extraordinary examples. Thus, if you want to play a particularly intelligent dwarf, you should be allowed to. This extends to other aspects like languages and proficiencies as well.

The problem is that WotC basically gave up on actually providing any kind of baseline for new races they released, instead operating under the assumption that players would just be using the TCE rule anyway so there was no point. They could have given players an idea of what the typical example of a race is like, but no, easier to just shrug and tell you to do whatever you want because it'd be racist to imply that most orcs are strong, or most elves are dexterous, or most halflings are abominations unto God and man. And hey, it's less work not to bother writing this stuff down, so two birds with one stone.

So yeah, I don't really have a problem with players taking their characters in a different direction from the norm, but without a defined norm in the first place, how are they supposed to know how to do that?

 

[The Ugly One]

they could also just not be fucking gay and not put an actual blue-haired faggot in charge of the brand

 

[Mr. Manchester]

First post here, so I'm sorry if the formatting's wrong.
One of the players for my regular saturday 4e game I DM online (since we live on different countries now, we had to make the switch to Roll20, greatest mistake of my life), asked if she(?) could switch characters. "She" wasn't on the original roster of players, but came recommended to me by one of them after another had to drop out. I have the habit of interviewing any potential players to avoid gay retarded shit, but I must've had an off-day, because this is the garbage I was sent as a concept:

Drow Druid, troon, left the Underdark because the females don't recognize the troon as a female and muh oppreshun!!!!!

Seing these red flags, I said no, please don't inject alphabet garbage in my game. This is the first time as a DM that this happened to me. Does anyone know of better ways to dissuade the player from this retardation, or should I just boot the troon fetishist out of my game?

I tend to be pretty forgiving of people acting like idiots when I run unless it's really disruptive. That being said troons have a habit of being incredibly disruptive. I guess I would ask if you're going to lose friends or something over it? You already told him not to inject that sort of thing so I don't think that would be an issue. He could be funny though, troons are funny to observe sometimes.

I figure that Drow would get really pissed if some male decided that he wasn't anymore, I figure the knee jerk response is to huck him in the drider pit and let Lolth make him something else if he wants to change so bad. So at least you can toss up random encounters of Drow patrols that want to help him transition.

 

[The Ugly One]

That being said troons have a habit of being incredibly disruptive.

They're also pedophiles.

 

[Gingervitis]

Have I mentioned how much I hate this hobby? The whole summer, I’ve been dealing with the shitflinging from my parents divorce, on top of my life having fallen apart since the unconstitutional lockdowns, not to mention having several friendships falling apart due to “being annoying” and “le heckin problematic opinions”. So I figure this summer I should get a couple friends together- the only two who havent moved away or lost their minds- and try OSE.

Well, it seems like every weekend people have summer plans. Even this weekend (summer’s over in this part of the country, thank god I don’t have to deal with seasonal depression anymore), for some reason. Well, last night (Wednesday) I finally got one player for a one on one oneshot. I just gave him the rules and told him, “pick whatever class you want, or give me something and I’ll find some homebrew for it. Just give it to me quick, because I need to actually make/choose an adventure for Saturday.” So I obviously sent several messages over discord to get something out of him until noon today, when he cancels last minute.

I don’t even know why I even attempt to engage in any hobbies anymore, much less tabletop rpgs. I’m a political outsider everywhere I go (no room for apolitical, free market conservatives anymore), every attempt to learn a new skill leaves me stressed and confused, and every new thing reminds me that every hobby I have, save consuming jazz of all things, will be consumed by radicals and flakes.

 

[The Ugly One]

Have I mentioned how much I hate this hobby? The whole summer, I’ve been dealing with the shitflinging from my parents divorce, on top of my life having fallen apart since the unconstitutional lockdowns, not to mention having several friendships falling apart due to “being annoying” and “le heckin problematic opinions”. So I figure this summer I should get a couple friends together- the only two who havent moved away or lost their minds- and try OSE.

Well, it seems like every weekend people have summer plans. Even this weekend (summer’s over in this part of the country, thank god I don’t have to deal with seasonal depression anymore), for some reason. Well, last night (Wednesday) I finally got one player for a one on one oneshot. I just gave him the rules and told him, “pick whatever class you want, or give me something and I’ll find some homebrew for it. Just give it to me quick, because I need to actually make/choose an adventure for Saturday.” So I obviously sent several messages over discord to get something out of him until noon today, when he cancels last minute.

I don’t even know why I even attempt to engage in any hobbies anymore, much less tabletop rpgs. I’m a political outsider everywhere I go (no room for apolitical, free market conservatives anymore), every attempt to learn a new skill leaves me stressed and confused, and every new thing reminds me that every hobby I have, save consuming jazz of all things, will be consumed by radicals and flakes.

Put up an ad on Craigslist or Meetup or whatever that reads like this. I guarantee this will work to filter out hysterical faggots:

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I'll be running a gritty, old-school D&D campaign where your backstory doesn't matter because one unlucky roll, and you're dead. Not for the faint of heart or weak of spirit, but full of endless treasure, wine, women, and song for those who dare to strike out against the slave lords and liberate the denizens of the Undercity.

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You may think this is not a big deal. But this ad is full of triggers that will make the Problematic Police throw a hissy fit and refuse to come to your game. They may even send you some hateful emails. But the people who do respond are the kinds who you're likely to play with for years.

 

[Gingervitis]

Put up an ad on Craigslist or Meetup or whatever that reads like this. I guarantee this will work to filter out hysterical faggots:

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I'll be running a gritty, old-school D&D campaign where your backstory doesn't matter because one unlucky roll, and you're dead. Not for the faint of heart or weak of spirit, but full of endless treasure, wine, women, and song for those who dare to strike out against the slave lords and liberate the denizens of the Undercity.

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You may think this is not a big deal. But this ad is full of triggers that will make the Problematic Police throw a hissy fit and refuse to come to your game. They may even send you some hateful emails. But the people who do respond are the kinds who you're likely to play with for years.

You know what? That could work. I had avoided Meetup for the longest time since I live 20 minutes away from the GWB, meaning practically every event on there was either 5e related, in NYC, or both. I want to avoid 5e players for a while, and I’m not paying 15 dollars a week and fighting for parking space just to play wizard games. Now I need to try and find a public space to meet up.

 

[Atypical Dog]

I'll be running a gritty, old-school D&D campaign where your backstory doesn't matter because one unlucky roll, and you're dead. Not for the faint of heart or weak of spirit, but full of endless treasure, wine, women, and song for those who dare to strike out against the slave lords and liberate the denizens of the Undercity.

You had me at "one unlucky roll and you're dead". I've always liked that kind of minimalist, no-setup gaming, where characters plug into a system, rather than being a major part of them (see how many features are tied to class and class levels now compared to being just the ruleset).

The problem is that WotC basically gave up on actually providing any kind of baseline for new races they released, instead operating under the assumption that players would just be using the TCE rule anyway so there was no point. They could have given players an idea of what the typical example of a race is like, but no, easier to just shrug and tell you to do whatever you want because it'd be racist to imply that most orcs are strong, or most elves are dexterous, or most halflings are abominations unto God and man. And hey, it's less work not to bother writing this stuff down, so two birds with one stone.

So yeah, I don't really have a problem with players taking their characters in a different direction from the norm, but without a defined norm in the first place, how are they supposed to know how to do that?

I think that would be a good idea. Strict RAW-reading tables might end up like the original 5e where they characteristic boosts are set in stone, which is probably why Custom Lineage was invented, which does this job but becomes the optimizer's first choice because you can tailor to your planned build.

I do like that they gave each individual racial trait more oomph now that there's no characteristic bonus though.

 

[#1 Hot Sauce of Kiwi Farm]

I figure that Drow would get really pissed if some male decided that he wasn't anymore, I figure the knee jerk response is to huck him in the drider pit and let Lolth make him something else if he wants to change so bad. So at least you can toss up random encounters of Drow patrols that want to help him transition.

Hope the patrol is offering to help in transiting to were and was though if a Drow is offering to help you and you do not know how it benefits them should be the biggest red flag.

Though if you really, really wanted to have a Underdark Drow that Transitioned from male to female have it happen at birth and it be because the family wanted a female. Pretty much reverse China with the one child policy. Have it be a secret that eventually gets found it which leads to his entire family getting killed than them barely escaping with their life. I can accept that I can totally see Drow families attempting to try to turn boys into girls.

 

[Scream Aim Fire]

Is there any official race or group that's even really evil in current year DND these days? Genuine question, as it seems that the fags in charge of the game really can't seem to grasp the idea of conflict.

 

[Mr. Manchester]

Is there any official race or group that's even really evil in current year DND these days? Genuine question, as it seems that the fags in charge of the game really can't seem to grasp the idea of conflict.

I think they specifically said there isn't, which is why if you do pick up the new edition for whatever reason, just ignore that shit. Or make halflings evil instead. Tell no one until their army of darkness shows up.