Terror Trouble in Orlando

Shugo said:
I'm not sure. This guy alone killed 50 and wounded 53 others. In the Paris attacks, it took 9 people to kill 130 and wound 368. On a per-martyr basis, this attack was much more effective.

In the Paris attacks as well, the biggest hit target was an inside venue with music and dancing, some theater hosting a band. 89 people died inside there. It looks like the deadliness of the attack comes from the targets they choose, with small crowded club/music venue places being very deadly.

You also don't need to "plan" to get armed like you do in Paris if you live in the US. As long as you have a clean criminal record, you're set. If you don't, it's not that hard to buy a gun from a private individual.

This was close to the level of the Paris attacks, I believe, and it does not take much planning or direct support from ISIS.
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I was not talking so much in planning how to get guns but how they coordinate with each other and having different targets around the city (including one close to the french president) I agree this is close to Paris attacks at least in body count and impact is going to have in the US.

At this point, even if not exactly pro gun, I also think Obama speech was pretty spinless. Blaming guns getting as tired as "lolmuslims".

kobebyarlant said:
"Hmm, I wonder if it's suspicious a Muslim guy wants to buy all these guns even if he does have a clean background? Well, I don't wanna be accused of racism so I won't try to push it."
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The guy was alredy investigated, being fair. that should have raised some eyebrows specially since his ex-wife accused him of domestic violence.
 
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FlamingPie said:
It wouldn't surprise me if, in the off-chance, the feds raid his house, they find he not only funded terrorists, but has a massive stash of gay porn on his computer.
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Interesting thing is, in most Middle Eastern countries they only consider the one receiving the fucking to be gay and not the one doing the fucking. It's mostly to do with being manly.
 
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Ntwadumela said:
Interesting thing is, in most Middle Eastern countries they only consider the one receiving the fucking to be gay and not the one doing the fucking. It's mostly to do with being manly.
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I also heard that in latin countries, it is only gay if you actively don't seek sex with women. If you want to have sex with women, you are not considered gay.
Seems like a good appreciation of bisexuality to me, though this also applies to prisons and such areas. If there is no women, men got to do what they got to do :tomgirl: .

As for fascism, like racism, it is simply one of the USA's big no no meanie words they always plaster over their enemies. It is a buzzword that lost all meaning and definition.
 
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Gym Leader Elesa said:
I have to admit that that list really doesn't sound anything like political fascism, and leaves out all mentions of authoritarian ultra-nationalism, the economic "third alternative", etc. It sounds like it is being equated to "dumb populists who are violent" which could literally be the Sons of Liberty.
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Of course it is. Trying to separate "dumb, violent populists" from fascism is like trying to separate the Sun from the Solar System.

Fascism's never been about ideas. If anything, it's an outright assault against thinking.

Gym Leader Elesa said:
Ethnicity and race played a strong role in Nazism, but almost none in fascism as a core ideology. Fascism is shitty, but not all fascist = nazis and not all enemies of the United States = fascists. A religious fascist organization especially is almost a contradiction in terms. Putting a religion above the state would be unthinkable to a fascist.
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Fascism is incapable of existing if it can't contradict itself. That's why the "secularist" governments of Mussolini, Hussein, and even the Reich Itself adopted the garb of defenders of the faith to rally people at their side.

That's not even getting into the fascist rulers who actually were true believers like Gen. Franco, Fr. Tiso, and Pk. Pavelić. They never let the contradictions stop their evil.

Gym Leader Elesa said:
This attack was perpetrated by religious fanatics, whose only ideology is sharia and the caliphate. Fascism would be the first in line to destroy such a thing. Be grateful that fascists don't exist as a coherent ideology anymore, they were a lot more organized and intelligent. Just hate the Wahabbists for what they are.
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When the fuck has this ever happened?

Demented religious fanatics are extremely quick to side with blackshirts. They did so in Croatia, Slovakia, Spain, Italy, Germany, and countless other places. Even Hajj Amin al-Husseini locked his Muslim brethren in arms with those Christendom infidels for the chance to butcher Jews in the name of goose-stepping.
 
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We're gonna need this
 
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Ntwadumela said:
Interesting thing is, in most Middle Eastern countries they only consider the one receiving the fucking to be gay and not the one doing the fucking. It's mostly to do with being manly.
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Wait, really?

We should probably look into exploiting that loophole. Someone get Quantico on the horn.

With a team of strategically-located faggots we could bring Islam to its knees.
 
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