Tesla Hate Thread - oh and come seethe about EVs in general with me

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Tesla 'yokes' have been falling off (routinely)

https://twitter.com/TrueAnonPod/status/1620105109324828674

 

[Car Won't Crank]

And it looks like another EV startup may bite the dust soon, as the operating company of the Dutch EV Lightyear (not the Disney film), has declared bankruptcy. Although to be fair, no one is going to be able to make a solar-powered car with today's technology, as Hyundai (I think) showed on some of their hybrid cars with solar panels on them, and the solar panels provide a miniscule amount of battery charging, compared to the cost of them.

I don't understand how these startup EV companies can't learn from others' failures. Fisker already tried the solar panel thing as did some other manufacturers and at most all they can do is power the accessories on a good day.

 

[teriyakiburns]

Normie UK car reviewer points out a few uncomfortable truths about electric cars.

tl;dw he likes EVs, but he thinks they're too expensive, government shouldn't be forcing people to have them, and lots of EV drivers are arrogant cunts.

 

[The Mass Shooter Ron Soye]

https://www.insider.com/rick-ross-fears-tesla-would-take-him-places-against-will-2023-1

https://archive.ph/PVM0y

Null and Rick Ross both fear the autonomous vehicle.

 

[Markass the Worst]

The Daily Rake put out a good article on how shit the Tesla semi is.

https://dailyrake.ca/2023/02/21/the-tesla-semi-truck-is-larping-on-wheels/

(archive)

 

[teriyakiburns]

An unfortunately-named UK youtuber (who looks like sean lock) performs a realistic EV towing test with a caravan. It doesn't go well.

 

[teriyakiburns]

JayEmm on electric cars again.

I'm liking this channel, incidentally. He's like old-school top gear. Kind of reminds me of Tiff Needel, or embryonic Clarkson before he blossomed into basedness.

 

[Thiletonomics]

Someone managed to unlock someone else's Tesla with the Tesla app, by accident.

And the NHTSA is investigating into Tesla Model Y steering wheels falling off.

 

[Dell Conagher]

Shit like any single link in this thread and the phantom breaking crap is why my car is going to be dumb until the gubmint outlaws traditional combustion sources.
but then again the oil companies basically owns every single government, so i doubt itll happen in my life time

 

[teriyakiburns]

And the NHTSA is investigating into Tesla Model Y steering wheels falling off.

There's at least one instance of a brand new Tesla being delivered without brake pads. Tesla build quality is godawful.

 

[Thiletonomics]

Tesla has been sued by customers, and is accused of monopolizing spare parts and repairs, to intentionally jack up the prices of those services. So Right-To-Repair is still an issue with EVs, and it's hard to say when that will be fixed, namely with Teslas.

And Butty McButtButt actually makes a good point, calling out Tesla's Autopilot, for not being that.

 

[teriyakiburns]

tl;dw If you don't have your own off-street parking and your own charger (which is most people), running an EV in the UK is more expensive that running a diesel. The only other monetary advantage - zero rated car tax - is gone as well.

It's also an explanation of how all the numbers work for EVs, but the important part - IMO, at least - is the costs and time required. You're still looking at 20 or 30 minutes minimum to charge, assuming you can even find an ultra fast charger.

 

[wtfNeedSignUp]

Shit like any single link in this thread and the phantom breaking crap is why my car is going to be dumb until the gubmint outlaws traditional combustion sources.
but then again the oil companies basically owns every single government, so i doubt itll happen in my life time

Big oil likes EVs, it makes a shitload in transportation those monstrosities and still consumes fuel in power stations since green energy is a myth.

So Right-To-Repair is still an issue with EVs, and it's hard to say when that will be fixed, namely with Teslas.

Is it even designed to be repaired? From what I gathered once enough batteries go bust they just chuck the whole thing into a landfill.

 

[Car Won't Crank]

tl;dw If you don't have your own off-street parking and your own charger (which is most people), running an EV in the UK is more expensive that running a diesel. The only other monetary advantage - zero rated car tax - is gone as well.

It's also an explanation of how all the numbers work for EVs, but the important part - IMO, at least - is the costs and time required. You're still looking at 20 or 30 minutes minimum to charge, assuming you can even find an ultra fast charger.

It's like that in certain states in the US to a lesser extent. I believe Indiana and some other states have an increased registration fee that's almost twice the normal for ICE cars. Apparently it's done to offset the lack of gas tax that will be received from using an EV.

 

[The Ugly One]

Big oil likes EVs, it makes a shitload in transportation those monstrosities and still consumes fuel in power stations since green energy is a myth.

Is it even designed to be repaired? From what I gathered once enough batteries go bust they just chuck the whole thing into a landfill.

Big Oil doesn't give a shit about EVs one way or another. Even if the entire planet switched to a purely unicorn-fart-based energy economy, petroleum is the single most versatile mineral we can pull out of the ground. Anyone got a plan to stop using organic chemicals? No? Guess Big Oil's going nowhere, then.

 

[Lichen Bark]

I watched their investor day presentation and they we bragging about how they had reduced weight in the wiring harness, they said for the Cybertruck the CAN busses would be partially wireless. Meaning they'd communicate with each other without pesky wires. They are switching to 48 volts instead of 12V for in car stuff (thinner wires). They said that the "next gen" car for the everyman will have 100% wireless CAN busses. Wireless stuff isnt exactly known for it's reliability, is that really a good idea?

 

[George Floyd Sneed]

You’d be surprised, Big Oil has a lot of investment wrapped up in renewable energy, energy trading including instruments like renewable energy credits, and electric vehicle charging stations, to name a couple examples. They’ve effectively hedged their bets on multiple outcomes. They are generally quiet about their renewable investments because libtards would get buttblasted if they found out Royal Dutch Shell or Koch Industries own major stakes in electric vehicle battery plants. To leftists, much of the whole transition to renewable energy is feeling like they’re getting one over on Big Oil.

 

[Thiletonomics]

The Vietnamese car maker VinFast, has delivered their first set of VF8s to US customers. Unfortunately, the range of the cars is very mediocre, at 207 miles and 191 miles. Given that the cars have the same tacked on middle giant ass touchscreen that Tesla uses, the lack of range, and the cars can only be leased right now, on 2 year leases, at $399 per month, with $5174 due at signing, or $513 with $5413 due at signing, is there any takers on how long VinFast will last before they give up on the US?

 

[God's drunkest driver]

tl;dw If you don't have your own off-street parking and your own charger (which is most people), running an EV in the UK is more expensive that running a diesel. The only other monetary advantage - zero rated car tax - is gone as well.

It's also an explanation of how all the numbers work for EVs, but the important part - IMO, at least - is the costs and time required. You're still looking at 20 or 30 minutes minimum to charge, assuming you can even find an ultra fast charger.

Unfortunately in the US, non truck diesels are probably going to stay dead, if any diesel cars are even available now. There's no reason for most to own one anymore, as in most of the country the price delta between diesel and gasoline close to or greater than the fuel economy delta between the two, with new stop-start direct injection gasoline engines. It varies, but as of today's national average according to AAA, diesel is 1.25x the cost of gasoline. For trucks it still makes sense in most cases as the fuel economy difference usually 30%+.

I watched their investor day presentation and they we bragging about how they had reduced weight in the wiring harness, they said for the Cybertruck the CAN busses would be partially wireless. Meaning they'd communicate with each other without pesky wires. They are switching to 48 volts instead of 12V for in car stuff (thinner wires). They said that the "next gen" car for the everyman will have 100% wireless CAN busses. Wireless stuff isnt exactly known for it's reliability, is that really a good idea?

An idiotic idea but perfect for modern techbros. Why run a wire when we can use a low-power RF connection? Certainly we can afford to pollute the UHF spectrum with more pointless garbage. Surely this won't pose a security or interference risk. Now sure they're inside of a metal shell and probably very low-power, but just imagine looking at a spectrum analyzer sitting in traffic before and after the implementation of such crap. Talk about a noisy environment. As for switching to 48V I wonder how many physical switches are left in a car now, probably not many. You'll need more robust switch designs at 48V than 12V due to arcing.

 

[Lichen Bark]

but just imagine looking at a spectrum analyzer sitting in traffic before and after the implementation of such crap.

I'm not Chuck McGill levels of electronic avoidance, but do I really want to sit in a car with the CANbusses wirelessly pinging each other 1000 times a second? How will my testicles fare in this environment?

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