Tesla Hate Thread - oh and come seethe about EVs in general with me

[Get the rope Macaulay!]

People are well aware of the numerous accidents and deaths involving Tesla's FSD, but now Ford's BlueCruise for the Mustang Mach-E is under investigation after two fatal crashes, and 3 deaths. Note that in those two accidents, the Ford driver was not the one killed by it.

I mean its bound to happen, anyone using "hands free" cruise control will naturally push the limits and end up dying eventually. There's literally videos of people fucking in Teslas while going 100mph on the high way. If i was a PR guy i'd spin it as a death per mile ratio and show off how its still super higher than with humans.

That was more of a marketing issue then a technical issue, the car itself was good

people were saying that about EVs in general before Tesla made them cool.

I think I've heard stories from years ago where people like engineers who were working at Tesla said it was a shit and stressful job, but they were too caught up in the energy to care. I think the energy ran out

from what i've heard thats pretty much it. it was an auto company trying to act like a tech company. I think a big reason Tesla is failing is the economy means their prime consumer base doesn't have the cash to pony up for an EV anymore, Tesla is still the majority of EV sales and up until a few years ago was like 90% of EV sales in the US. it lives and dies on the industry.

Im just butthurt my S&P500 bucks and tax dollars are getting vacuumed up into that clown show.

if my tax dollars will be spend by some retarded african that can't shut the fuck up or keep his dick in his pants. I'd prefer it to go to Elon Musk rather than George Floyd jr.

 

[indomitable snowman]

Electric hypercar manufacturer Rimac, which is owned by Bugatti, has decided not to make another electric car after only selling 50 out of 150 Neveras:

https://kiwifarms.st/threads/rimac-unlikely-to-make-another-electric-hypercar.190983/

Isn't that the car Richard Hammond crashed and set on fire a couple years ago?

 

[Stalphos Johnson]

Isn't that the car Richard Hammond crashed and set on fire a couple years ago?

Same company, different model.

 

[wtfNeedSignUp]

Isn't that the car Richard Hammond crashed and set on fire a couple years ago?

Probably it didn't help their bottom lines. Funny how the episode is still relevant today with how EV s are short range death traps. Can you even make their acceleration mechanical in any way?

 

[teriyakiburns]

The Tesla Cybertruck is such a piece of shit the plastics inside are breaking apart on first inspection for some people.

It's funny going from a year or so ago, when the wizard was declaring that he'd have to retire because of EVs and Tyler was confidently stating that they were the inevitable future, to whatever the hell this is. Maybe if Tesla spent less time making the car fart on command, they'd have better build quality.

 

[The Evil Midnight Bomber]

It's funny going from a year or so ago, when the wizard was declaring that he'd have to retire because of EVs and Tyler was confidently stating that they were the inevitable future, to whatever the hell this is. Maybe if Tesla spent less time making the car fart on command, they'd have better build quality.

Now he's just worried he'll have to retire because even gas cars are irreparably shit now.

 

[The Ugly One]

If i was a PR guy i'd spin it as a death per mile ratio and show off how its still super higher than with humans.

That's what they do. Of course, Tesla gets to their safety number because FSD disables right before impact, and they count that accident as happening under human control.

The Tesla Cybertruck is such a piece of shit the plastics inside are breaking apart on first inspection for some people.

"Teslas don't need to be repaired because batteries don't have moving parts."

On one hand it's not as outwardly evil as other companies

I think having customers signining NDAs to not tell law enforcement (which is what NHTSA is) about faults is pretty evil. So is scamming customers out of $10K by selling them a fake self-driving system that does nothing by tricking them into thinking it's 6 months away from completion when, in fact, nobody at the company has solved core technology problems yet (and still hasn't).

 

[wtfNeedSignUp]

Maybe if Tesla spent less time making the car fart on command, they'd have better build quality.

I actually googled it out of morbid curiosity to see if it's just an exaggeration or not.

It's not.

I think having customers signining NDAs to not tell law enforcement (which is what NHTSA is) about faults is pretty evil. So is scamming customers out of $10K by selling them a fake self-driving system that does nothing by tricking them into thinking it's 6 months away from completion when, in fact, nobody at the company has solved core technology problems yet (and still hasn't).

Like I said, outwardly evil. You need to search for the horrible shit.

 

[Thiletonomics]

And the forced EV pushes in China are still resulting the same expected disastrous results, as in fires, not enough places to charge them, and shoddy build quality:

And there are also Mercedes and Tesla EVs catching fire as well.

 

[TruthSeekingDaimon]

EVs are too expensive and the batteries are not good enough for middle classes to start buying.
There are better batteries being manufactured, but it will take time for volume manufacturing.

 

[Susanna]

EVs are too expensive and the batteries are not good enough for middle classes to start buying.
There are better batteries being manufactured, but it will take time for volume manufacturing.

Frankly, batteries aren’t going to get better. Everything being developed is cheaper, sometimes more durable, but always less efficient than lithium. Most likely, once dual carbon batteries become practical, we’ll see those in standard cars, while the lithium batteries we have today becoming exclusive to the luxury brands, because there’s only so much lithium to go around and prices will rocket away as electric cars become more common. For the middle class, electric cars are already as good as they’re going to get.

Whether you get a standard or a luxury car, you’re looking at a downgrade from a combustion engine car unless you exclusively use it for commuting and only very rarely need more than an hour or two worth of range.

 

[Betonhaus]

Batteries are good for a buffer, but there really needs to be an alternative source of some sort.

 

[DeadwastePrime]

Batteries are good for a buffer, but there really needs to be an alternative source of some sort.

cum powered cars when?

 

[DavidS877]

Batteries are good for a buffer, but there really needs to be an alternative source of some sort.

alternatively

 

[Betonhaus]

I really wonder how powerful a steam engine assembly that's eight cubic feet in size would be. It would be very high torque which would be great for an electric generator

 

[Car Won't Crank]

Frankly, batteries aren’t going to get better. Everything being developed is cheaper, sometimes more durable, but always less efficient than lithium. Most likely, once dual carbon batteries become practical, we’ll see those in standard cars, while the lithium batteries we have today becoming exclusive to the luxury brands, because there’s only so much lithium to go around and prices will rocket away as electric cars become more common. For the middle class, electric cars are already as good as they’re going to get.

Whether you get a standard or a luxury car, you’re looking at a downgrade from a combustion engine car unless you exclusively use it for commuting and only very rarely need more than an hour or two worth of range.

LiFePO4 batteries are starting to become more popular. They're not more energy dense than liion but they're apparently less volatile. I think many of the more recent EVs are using them for safety reasons. That said, they are still more expensive than comparable lithium cells. Power source is still indeed the limiting factor.

 

[Miller]

And the forced EV pushes in China are still resulting the same expected disastrous results, as in fires, not enough places to charge them, and shoddy build quality:

And there are also Mercedes and Tesla EVs catching fire as well.

The scary thing is that the chinese are trying to export their shitty EV cars to other countries. I've seen several french EV/tech Youtube channels shill for their chinese cars.

 

[Thiletonomics]

The scary thing is that the chinese are trying to export their shitty EV cars to other countries. I've seen several french EV/tech Youtube channels shill for their chinese cars.

The sheer amount of Chinese EVs being dumped in other countries, in addition to Chinese automakers opening up factories in places like Mexico, has gotten to the point that Europe started filing lawsuits against Chinese EV automakers for dumping (which won't do a damn thing to fix the issue), in addition to Biden raising the tariffs on Chinese EVs. At what point will Chinese automakers just go "Fuck it", and mass dump Chinese EVs in the US, despite the increased tariffs?

 

[Betonhaus]

Tbh I don't see how chink EVs will be dramatically worse then American ones, aside from being more affordable and possibly easier to mod

 

[teriyakiburns]

Tbh I don't see how chink EVs will be dramatically worse then American ones, aside from being more affordable and possibly easier to mod

They're made using cable crimps that can't crimp and fuses that don't blow at their specified failure current.