Tesla Hate Thread - oh and come seethe about EVs in general with me

[wtfNeedSignUp]

From @BNODesk: "China opens investigation after Tesla car runs off at high speed while trying to park, killing 2 people and injuring several others"
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Note that the brake lights were on the entire time yet the Tesla continued to accelerate. If that doesn't encapsulate how much control you have in a "car" that's an Internet-connected shitbox little more than a glorified computer on wheels, I don't know what does.

The tweet was deleted within a couple hours and I had to archive it from the Wayback Machine (thankfully someone downloaded the video and reposted it). Many speculate it was deleted due to Musk owning twitter.

Wasn't there a driver inside with some kill switch to regain control?

 

[TheDarknessGrows]

From @BNODesk: "China opens investigation after Tesla car runs off at high speed while trying to park, killing 2 people and injuring several others"
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Note that the brake lights were on the entire time yet the Tesla continued to accelerate. If that doesn't encapsulate how much control you have in a "car" that's an Internet-connected shitbox little more than a glorified computer on wheels, I don't know what does.

That video was FUCKING AWESOME!! Post it in the Watch People Die thread!

 

[teriyakiburns]

Louis Rossman on VW forcibly linking the motors of their electric cars to the VIN.

(Electric vehicles are an excuse to implement this shit, I guess)

 

[Markass the Worst]

Good video from Donut on why EV fires (not just Tesla) are much worse than ICE fires:

The lithium ion batteries are made up of extremely flammable materials so if the battery is punctured (either physically or from expanding from being heated up too much) then the solvent will just react with the oxygen in the air starting a fire, this can easily cause a thermal runaway where all the neighbor cells in turn get heated up and explode and start a fire in the same way. Stopping a fire means cooling it down enough but the thermal runaway can still happen even when there's no fire, this is why EV fires routinely reignite themselves days later. In addition EV fires burn at much higher temperatures so the fire department needs a lot more time and a lot more water to put out the fire, it takes 5 minutes for a ICE car but 2 hours for a EV.

You get to save the environment while putting yourself at risk of dying in a horrible toxic fire more flammable than regular cars, sure sounds like a good deal why don't you sign me up for that.

 

[The Great Milenko]

Good video from Donut on why EV fires (not just Tesla) are much worse than ICE fires:

The lithium ion batteries are made up of extremely flammable materials so if the battery is punctured (either physically or from expanding from being heated up too much) then the solvent will just react with the oxygen in the air starting a fire, this can easily cause a thermal runaway where all the neighbor cells in turn get heated up and explode and start a fire in the same way.

I mean, remember when the Samsung Galaxy Note 7's were blowing up? It was the battery.

 

[Kosher Dill]

The lithium ion batteries are made up of extremely flammable materials so if the battery is punctured (either physically or from expanding from being heated up too much) then the solvent will just react with the oxygen in the air starting a fire

This can happen frighteningly easily if you have the misfortune of running over some metal debris in the road. In an ICE car that might be "Oh no, there goes my power steering", but in an EV it's "Oh no, I am now at the center of a supernova".

 

[Krokodil Overdose]

Good video from Donut on why EV fires (not just Tesla) are much worse than ICE fires:

The lithium ion batteries are made up of extremely flammable materials so if the battery is punctured (either physically or from expanding from being heated up too much) then the solvent will just react with the oxygen in the air starting a fire, this can easily cause a thermal runaway where all the neighbor cells in turn get heated up and explode and start a fire in the same way. Stopping a fire means cooling it down enough but the thermal runaway can still happen even when there's no fire, this is why EV fires routinely reignite themselves days later. In addition EV fires burn at much higher temperatures so the fire department needs a lot more time and a lot more water to put out the fire, it takes 5 minutes for a ICE car but 2 hours for a EV.

If memory serves, the definition of thermite is "anything that makes metal burn." If so, the battery ignition is a thermite reaction, and I don't think it can be extinguished with water- at those temperatures water should be electrolyzing into hydrogen and oxygen, which is just more fuel. The 2 hours may be the time it takes to burn itself out.

 

[Uber driver reviewer]

From @BNODesk: "China opens investigation after Tesla car runs off at high speed while trying to park, killing 2 people and injuring several others"
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Note that the brake lights were on the entire time yet the Tesla continued to accelerate. If that doesn't encapsulate how much control you have in a "car" that's an Internet-connected shitbox little more than a glorified computer on wheels, I don't know what does.

The tweet was deleted within a couple hours and I had to archive it from the Wayback Machine (thankfully someone downloaded the video and reposted it). Many speculate it was deleted due to Musk owning twitter.

Note the lack of brake lights….

Tesla brakes are independent from any other system in the car. Ergo, the bug behind the wheel has their foot flooring the accelerator the entire time, because bugs do not get really have generational car ownership and have new wealth so they have brand new drivers buying hellaciously powerful vehicles and having absolutely no frame of reference for vehicle ownership other than the brand is extremely important to them.

But I thought electric vehicles were supposed to be more reliable and less maintenance!

1. It’s GM garbage

2. It’s pretty much their first swing at “modern” EV’s.

3. It’s an early production model (basically a prototype).

It’s not really fair to apply this argument to this specific case. Give GM a few years to get their shit together. They will still be junk, but at least then it would be a more fair comparison against other EV’s (which with the exception of Teslas, leaf, and bolt, are still essentially low volume functional prototypes )

That's funny because it's another EV utility vehicle fail that TFL group has tested/reviewed. First it was that Ford F150 Lightning towing test and now this Hummer. Oddly enough, Hoovie is now stirring up drama because his towing "test" with the Ford Lightning is the video that caught the attention of Infowars. It really makes no sense because both Hoovie and Alex Jones are saying the same thing about EV pickups and their lack of towing utility. Hoovie just seems to be kvetching over the fact he was mentioned by controversial figure Alex Jones despite it bringing more publicity and revenue for his channel. Maybe it's all an act and Hoovie is just faking it for the drama. Can never tell these days with these youtubers.

The Frozen yogurt scion is a faggot. I agree he’s being an obtuse drama bitch on purpose for clicks

 

[Nabeshin]

Good video from Donut on why EV fires (not just Tesla) are much worse than ICE fires:

IIRC the proper way to stop lithium fire is to bury the battery into sand or to use high specialized extinguishers made for lithium, so yeah it's way harder to put out

You get to save the environment

It's funny that a lot of soy uses this argument but most people who have full EV's lives in areas where coal/gas power powers a good part of their grid, the lithium is from companies that mines it from Africa where they don't have any eco-safety laws and lithium mining uses a lot of harmful materials that they dump in the environment instead of cleaning it and due to the lack of easy repair it makes that most of the cars will be thrown away instead of repaired and reselled

 

[teriyakiburns]

Engineering Explained copes mightly about the deficiencies of electric cars, in the form of a sponsored video for a specialist tyre manufacturer.

Some of the clever details in the tyre are definitely interesting, but he gives away the fact that an EV would need a 10-12% increase in battery size (over 45kg of weight) to overcome a fractional difference in the coefficient of rolling resistance.

 

[Markass the Worst]

Engineering Explained copes mightly about the deficiencies of electric cars, in the form of a sponsored video for a specialist tyre manufacturer.

Some of the clever details in the tyre are definitely interesting, but he gives away the fact that an EV would need a 10-12% increase in battery size (over 45kg of weight) to overcome a fractional difference in the coefficient of rolling resistance.

Not surprising. Didn't he make a video about the Tesla semi where he did the math and found that it "made sense"?

 

[teriyakiburns]

Not surprising. Didn't he make a video about the Tesla semi where he did the math and found that it "made sense"?

I don't know. He did a video a couple of years back, explaining why EVs are so terrible at towing, so he can be realistic when he wants to be. He just doesn't want to be.

 

[Cavalier Cipolla]

LMAO, at 260 miles (About 400 km in normal people units) of range for a Model 3, you might as well get a Nissan GTR. It will have longer range, be faster and accelerate faster. And since it is built by the Japs, it's gonna be more reliable as well!

Alternatively, if you're not into sports cars, but something more comfortable for even other people in the car, a BMW 330d will cost just as much, have a range of 600+ miles (1000+ km in normal people units) and be about as fast. Now, since that isn't made by Japs or Swedes, the question mark stays on the reliability. I guess it's best to buy one used or new from the time when most if not all of the bugs were figured out.

You know, I really hope that some Chink with a good sense of humor makes an EV company that rips off Tesla and that is called Edison. Because a stolen Tesla is an Edison, after all.

 

[Car Won't Crank]

Engineering Explained copes mightly about the deficiencies of electric cars, in the form of a sponsored video for a specialist tyre manufacturer.

Some of the clever details in the tyre are definitely interesting, but he gives away the fact that an EV would need a 10-12% increase in battery size (over 45kg of weight) to overcome a fractional difference in the coefficient of rolling resistance.

That guy rubs me the wrong way. He's just another car youtuber like all the others. There's something about him and his videos that make him less than genuine to me.

 

[LinkinParkxNaruto[AMV]]

From what i gather Tesla cars are way overpriced, kinda crappy and inconvenient and don't actually polute less at all, might polute worse in fact considering some of their components and what it takes to mine the materials and switching to electric seems hilarious to be mentioned in the middle of an energy crisis.

Definitely the kind of company that deserves to be valued more than all other major car manufacturers because the market is really rational like that.

 

[FiddleAFox]

From what i gather Tesla cars are way overpriced, kinda crappy and inconvenient and don't actually polute less at all, might polute worse in fact considering some of their components and what it takes to mine the materials and switching to electric seems hilarious to be mentioned in the middle of an energy crisis.

Definitely the kind of company that deserves to be valued more than all other major car manufacturers because the market is really rational like that.

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A lot of companies shill for Government gibs because they tend to work together as a team to an extent. Pretty sure in some circumstances they would rather have smaller governments when examples like Zucc exist getting constantly shat on by big govt. In this case, Elon is just riding the gravy train until it either gets adopted or completely fails because of the impracticality of EVs in general. Especially considering the fact in the USA at least, EVs make little to no sense in a practical manner at all. Some ofurbanites and suburbanites occasionally make the argument like TechnologyConnections enjoying the adoption of EVs, but when taxes begin to pile up in a similar fashion the same way California is taxing the hell out of EVs, the electricity will wind up costing the same amount as an ICE.

By the way, apparently there's a video of a guy that runs an ICE vehicle (Jeep iirc) on literal water. So if environmentalists gave that much of a shit about the environment itself, we'd be seeing aftermarket/factory built ICE water compatibility.

 

[Cavalier Cipolla]

A lot of companies shill for Government gibs because they tend to work together as a team to an extent. Pretty sure in some circumstances they would rather have smaller governments when examples like Zucc exist getting constantly shat on by big govt. In this case, Elon is just riding the gravy train until it either gets adopted or completely fails because of the impracticality of EVs in general. Especially considering the fact in the USA at least, EVs make little to no sense in a practical manner at all. Some ofurbanites and suburbanites occasionally make the argument like TechnologyConnections enjoying the adoption of EVs, but when taxes begin to pile up in a similar fashion the same way California is taxing the hell out of EVs, the electricity will wind up costing the same amount as an ICE.

By the way, apparently there's a video of a guy that runs an ICE vehicle (Jeep iirc) on literal water. So if environmentalists gave that much of a shit about the environment itself, we'd be seeing aftermarket/factory built ICE water compatibility.

I call BS on the Jeep running on literal water. Are you sure you're not confusing it with hydrogen fuel cell (but that's not ICE anymore) powered vehicle? They don't run on water, but their only emission IS water. Otherwise, the only thing that comes to my mind is that the car runs on water and sodium, which react and produce hydrogen. But that doesn't sound practical at all.

Here's one thing that was popular in Nazi Germany and is popular in North Korea today, tho! Wood burning cars! Yes, I'm not making this up. Now, the way this works is possibly not what you might expect. The wood is burned with an abysmal air to fuel ratio ON PURPOSE to produce CO and some other gasses which are flammable. And then these gasses are fed into the engine.

 

[teriyakiburns]

I call BS on the Jeep running on literal water. Are you sure you're not confusing it with hydrogen fuel cell (but that's not ICE anymore) powered vehicle?

There's a persistent conspiracy theory that Big Car or Big Oil is suppressing the existence of an engine that literally runs on water. It's based on the claims of people who have used the 12 volt battery to electrolyse water into hydrogen and oxygen, which would power the engine for a short while, but is obviously not going to be able to sustain itself.

 

[Cavalier Cipolla]

There's a persistent conspiracy theory that Big Car or Big Oil is suppressing the existence of an engine that literally runs on water. It's based on the claims of people who have used the 12 volt battery to electrolyse water into hydrogen and oxygen, which would power the engine for a short while, but is obviously not going to be able to sustain itself.

Yeah. Funny thing is, if you have enough electricity to be able to perform electrolysis in sufficient amounts to supply an ICE, you might as well just use an electric motor.

 

[Larry Potterfield]

Something about Teslas just screams soulless to me, like the cars have no personality. I got to drive a friend's model 3 and it definitely has all these neat features but everything about the car seems empty. Even doing a 0-60 run seemed underwhelming. Like, pure acceleration and instant torque is cool as shit, but the car makes it seem lame. I also gotta say, it really irks me when EV peeps make it seem like getting gas on a road trip is somehow not easier than charging nontop. I can drive 5 states and stopping at gas stations would add like an hour to my trip if I grab a snack, charging on a road trip is not in the same ballpark.