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Tesla Hate Thread - oh and come seethe about EVs in general with me
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MarvinTheParanoidAndroid
This will all end in tears, I just know it.
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Yeah Teslas are so anti-repair that I'm surprised I don't hear Louis Rossman shit on them as often as John Deer.
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Tesla isn't throwing money at lobbyists and lawyers like John Deere.
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Yeah, Tesla is just the least anti-repair car company, which really shows just how low the bar is for not being anti-repair. Louis still calls them out whenever they do anti-repair shit.
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You mean most?
John Deere equipment is repairable. Good parts availability, better than average part prices, access to repair manuals, etc. What they really don't want to do is give access to their software. They would much rather their dealers were billing out $150-180/hr for diagnostics and repairs. It doesn't help that the difference between a 410hp tractor and 620hp tractor is a few lines of code.
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Some Chinese auto makers, i.e. BYD, are deciding to open up factories in Mexico to build EVs there. And the EVs themselves, while people are cheering for them because they're cheap, have a lot of issues with them as well.
Motor Trend reviewed the BYD Yuan Plus, in Mexico. (Archived) It tests for 298 miles of range, on the VERY optimistic and outdated European NEDC testing cycle, compared to the more accurate WLTP and EPA testing cycles used in Europe and the US respectively. The interior isn't much better either:
The infotainment screen absolutely screams "COST CUTTING", in terms of how cheap it looks, and the instrument cluster, while it isn't as tiny as the infamous designed-for-ants one on the VW ID.7 prototype, also is small and screams CHEAP as well. And the estimated $45k price tag, isn't any better either.
MT also reviewed the JAC E10X, while at first looks like it would be the cheap EV that people are begging for, also has significant issues as well. (Archived)
The interior looks just as cheap, and even more tacky, but the bigger issue is that the car scored a whopping ZERO stars on the Latin NCAP crash tests. (Archived) That means that a GMC Hummer EV colliding into this head-on, would crush it like a literal tin can.
Motor Trend reviewed the BYD Yuan Plus, in Mexico. (Archived) It tests for 298 miles of range, on the VERY optimistic and outdated European NEDC testing cycle, compared to the more accurate WLTP and EPA testing cycles used in Europe and the US respectively. The interior isn't much better either:
The infotainment screen absolutely screams "COST CUTTING", in terms of how cheap it looks, and the instrument cluster, while it isn't as tiny as the infamous designed-for-ants one on the VW ID.7 prototype, also is small and screams CHEAP as well. And the estimated $45k price tag, isn't any better either.
MT also reviewed the JAC E10X, while at first looks like it would be the cheap EV that people are begging for, also has significant issues as well. (Archived)
The interior looks just as cheap, and even more tacky, but the bigger issue is that the car scored a whopping ZERO stars on the Latin NCAP crash tests. (Archived) That means that a GMC Hummer EV colliding into this head-on, would crush it like a literal tin can.
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How often do electric cars burst into flames because battery?
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Ironic how electric cars suck compared to petrol cars. Corporate media tries to condition people to think that nuclear fusion will "happen soon" (and is "more advanced"), a "one world government" is "the way to utopia", and electric cars are "the future" of cars.
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We'd probably have fusion by now, if the Russians hadn't faked their tokamak results, to appear better than the west, and sent the entire world down a dead-end research path.
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News were trying to spin it as a diesel Range Rover that caught fire, despite how completely unlikely it would be that a diesel vehicle would spontaneously combust.
It turns out it was a diesel hybrid (and the battery pack is what caught fire)
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A Tesla owner in Scotland was charged £17K (~$21K USD) to replace a water-damaged battery. (Archived) I don't even recall the most expensive of ICE car repairs, i.e. Nissan CVT replacements, which cost ~$4-5k, since they're design to grenade themselves intentionally, to be this much.
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That's crazy. My old German luxo sedan is known to have a failing transmission and to rebuild that is rarely over 4k USD.
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Transmission rebuilds and engine rebuilds can get close to $10k. Unless you're working on a large Diesel, engine rebuilds will never be as much as replacing a battery pack for an EV. It's pretty crazy.
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It's only going to get crazier. Despite the claims, there's pretty much no lithium cell recycling happening at the moment, due to both the cost and regulatory hurdles that limit the use of the toxic chemicals required to extract the lithium from dead cells. Lots of acids and lovely, environmentally hazardous by-products.
Point being, there's a already a bottleneck in the extraction of raw lithium, as well as another bottleneck on the supply of completed cells, both because of environmental and working environment regulations in western nations that get in the way of every step of the process and because of the stranglehold China has on the supply. Recycling was meant to be mitigate the lithium supply problem by allowing the re-use of existing supplies, rather than relying on new extraction. Without that supply of recycled lithium, combined with the projected increase in demand for cells for new cars, the cost of replacement cells is only going to rise.
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I know nothing of the technology or specification.
The car seems fine. The owners of teslas? Yeah burn them all with the 10000 degree fires these cars create.
The car seems fine. The owners of teslas? Yeah burn them all with the 10000 degree fires these cars create.
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Supposedly RAM is going to come out with a burgerized version of the Ram 1200 in the USA and call it the Rampage.
That will fit in with the Mavrick and Santa Cruz. If they can actually keep it cheap I think they will sell a ton of them. With car loan interest rates being what they are now alot of people wont be able to swing payments on $75K fullsize pickup anymore.
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In electric truck news, Edison Motors has completed their prototype, named it Topsy after the Elephant Edison abused to death to sell his product, and is now putting it through extreme testing to see what it's limits are. Over the next two years they will slowly prepare for mass production while remaining completely privately owned.
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