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How many tard babies have you adopted?
The Abortion Debate Containment Thread - Put abortion sperging here.
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None, because he's a male incel.
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Just don’t let it near a school then. Never late for anything.
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How is he using a fallacious argument exactly?
Can you explain logically why it shouldn't, or rather, why that even matters? It's like saying "does a baby count as a toddler". Maybe not, but that's not a justification to kill them just because they haven't yet reached a particular stage of development. And sure, maybe the baby won't ever reach the point where it's a toddler, maybe it'll die naturally of SIDS before that, but that's nature.
That's a relatively high bar to clear, you realize that, right?
Not only would newborns not count as sapient, even walking, babbling toddlers arguably wouldn't. Disabled people wouldn't either.
Setting arbitrary criteria for which innocent human lives are allowed to continue to exist and which are ended, especially when it's usually only a matter of time until said arbitrary criteria will inevitably be met anyway, is merely a component of the mental gymnastics necessary to justify atrocities like abortion.
NYT blatantly misrepresented the statistic then, I shouldn't be surprised since it is a liberal rag after all.
These terms aren't as rigid as you'd be led to believe. "Fetus" is largely used to sterilize the language around what "abortion" really is (killing a human). They call a baby a fetus from 8 weeks up until birth, despite there being no significant biologically distinction between the baby just before birth and the baby immediately upon birth.
Fetus literally just means "offspring" in Latin but it's used to dehumanize the developing human, which is what it is from conception (its DNA is the same from then until death).
So yes, a fetus is effectively an infant/baby, it's just not "viable" up until a certain point (at which point it's still referred to as a fetus anyway).
Only one of those things is absurd. Arguably animal life has value, but you can't argue all animal life has value but not human life. Vegans won't even drink milk and will cry if you crush the eggs of an endangered species, yet cheer to kill babies, especially less developed ones.
At least meat eating pro-lifers are consistent in their view that human life is valuable, whereas pro-abortion vegans are walking contradictions.
One could try to shift the argument to the death penalty to try to frame pro-lifers as equally inconsistent, but that falls apart under scrutiny too (pro-life =/= "all life should be protected"; there's an obvious difference between an innocent baby and a criminal arguably deserving death, even if you disagree with the death penalty).
Yeah, because the baby wasn't alive 2 seconds prior to the time printed on a certificate, only boomer incels retards think that.
Here, I'll reply for you because you're a repetitious, unoriginal retard: "hAvE sEx".
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You're too fixated on babiesHow is he using a fallacious argument exactly?
Can you explain logically why it shouldn't, or rather, why that even matters? It's like saying "does a baby count as a toddler". Maybe not, but that's not a justification to kill them just because they haven't yet reached a particular stage of development. And sure, maybe the baby won't ever reach the point where it's a toddler, maybe it'll die naturally of SIDS before that, but that's nature.
That's a relatively high bar to clear, you realize that, right?
Not only would newborns not count as sapient, even walking, babbling toddlers arguably wouldn't. Disabled people wouldn't either.
Setting arbitrary criteria for which innocent human lives are allowed to continue to exist and which are ended, especially when it's usually only a matter of time until said arbitrary criteria will inevitably be met anyway, is merely a component of the mental gymnastics necessary to justify atrocities like abortion.
NYT blatantly misrepresented the statistic then, I shouldn't be surprised since it is a liberal rag after all.
These terms aren't as rigid as you'd be led to believe. "Fetus" is largely used to sterilize the language around what "abortion" really is (killing a human). They call a baby a fetus from 8 weeks up until birth, despite there being no significant biologically distinction between the baby just before birth and the baby immediately upon birth.
Fetus literally just means "offspring" in Latin but it's used to dehumanize the developing human, which is what it is from conception (its DNA is the same from then until death).
So yes, a fetus is effectively an infant/baby, it's just not "viable" up until a certain point (at which point it's still referred to as a fetus anyway).
Only one of those things is absurd. Arguably animal life has value, but you can't argue all animal life has value but not human life. Vegans won't even drink milk and will cry if you crush the eggs of an endangered species, yet cheer to kill babies, especially less developed ones.
At least meat eating pro-lifers are consistent in their view that human life is valuable, whereas pro-abortion vegans are walking contradictions.
One could try to shift the argument to the death penalty to try to frame pro-lifers as equally inconsistent, but that falls apart under scrutiny too (pro-life =/= "all life should be protected"; there's an obvious difference between an innocent baby and a criminal arguably deserving death, even if you disagree with the death penalty).
Yeah, because the baby wasn't alive 2 seconds prior to the time printed on a certificate, only boomer incels retards think that.
Here, I'll reply for you because you're a repetitious, unoriginal retard: "hAvE sEx".
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how is aborting a rapebaby a crime? even if it was, does criminality trump morality? is it bad to kill a convicted pedophile cause “two wrongs don’t make a right”? how is it that you try to play the moral high ground so hard that you think it’s wrong for a rape victim to have an abortion?
do you understand that not only does a rape victim live with lifelong trauma, but in this case has this burden placed on her and has her entire life trajectory changed by being forced to go through the physical and emotional pain of having a rapebaby? why should an innocent woman be forced to have the child of a rapist because you personally don’t like abortion? you’re either trolling or have a genuine hatred of women, i hope it’s the former.
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Yes. Yes, criminality does trump morality. Our society is entirely secular and there is no basis for morality other than legal.
Not because I don't like abortion, because I don't like criminals. I genuinely believe that thieves should be shot. But even if you want to come at this from the perspective of reducing trauma, why do you think that murdering your infants is not traumatic? Suicide among adult women is very low except in the three year period right after having an abortion. Here's a source:
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When they moralfag about "murdering babies", just remember that they only hate abortion because they want to see women suffer. Can't make this up lol:
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Heh. Even if that was the case, and it's not, why should a woman's suffering come before a child's life, exactly? Everyone suffers. Women are not special.
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Because a human is more important than a rapist's parasite.
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As opposed to what, a loving partner's parasite? The child is not more worthy of being killed than other children simply because of the father. If you get stabbed and robbed at a Walmart, you are not justified in shooting the shift manager at that Walmart.
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Yes
1) It's not alive
2) No woman should have to suffer because of a criminal
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Neurobiologists believe fetuses can feel pain as early as 7 weeks into development.
Citation:
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what does morality have to do with a secular society? you’re saying that morality is based off of legality even though people have had their own moral beliefs before laws were written.
you know what’s really cool about free will? different people have different morals. if there’s a extreme pro-life woman who gets raped and decides to carry the pregnancy to term, then she can go for it, she’s living by her own morals and her choice. so why should that have any bearing on a completely separate woman in the same situation that knows for her well-being to get an abortion?
if law determines morality, what happens when laws change? what about countries where child marriage is legal and widely accepted?
the basis of morality is the individual. i don’t think abortion is immoral, i do think your posts about forcing a woman to bear such a burden is immoral. clearly you don’t think the same, and your morals say that a fetus being carried to term is more important than a victim’s trauma. i would say to you to just not get an abortion if you’re so against it, but you’re not even a woman. so if one day you end up knocking up a woman by accident, unlikely cause you come off as an incel, that you stick by your beliefs and end up paying child support out the ass.
yes there’s an increased rate of depression among women who have had abortions, some regret it some don’t. your point doesn’t hit as hard when you look at the rates of post partum depression (https://www.postpartumdepression.org/resources/statistics/)
and in the instance of rape, the trauma caused by the incident as well as having to raise a rapebaby you didn’t consent to having FAR outweighs the trauma she would have from an abortion. again, it’s called rape because it’s not consented. a victim wouldn’t even need to consider an abortion if she wasn’t raped to begin with. there is no reason to force more trauma onto women who have been raped. calling abortion of a rapebaby a crime is essentially blaming the victim.
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More like week 23
Also rape victim's pain > rapists parasites pain
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I am blaming the victim for choosing to kill her child. I do not care if she was raped. I do not have any sympathy for a victim of rape at all. Only blinding hatred for the rapist. The child is as innocent as the woman is, and murder is a worse crime than rape.
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What a fucking vagina. Imagine being this afraid of death. Pussy.
Respecting a Youtuber. NGMI.