The Abortion Debate Containment Thread - Put abortion sperging here.

[snailslime]

Why should it be treated as such by the legal system? Well, because I believe it is murder.

why do you believe it's murder?

 

[Skel Jug]

Sometimes killing babies is a good choice for all parties involved, this is just shit you realize when you as a male find a female partner IRL

 

[HeroicIdealism]

1) a freshly developed fetus is worthless
2) "hurr durr every non virgin is a slut" have sex virgin lol

1) Why is a human fetus worthless?
2) You can have sex and not be a whore. If you're wanting an abortion though, you're most likely a whore who can't resist creampies from men who you don't want to have children with.

 

[snailslime]

1) Why is a human fetus worthless?
2) You can have sex and not be a whore. If you're wanting an abortion though, you're most likely a whore who can't resist creampies from men who you don't want to have children with.

1) why isn't it?
2) truly spoken like a permavirgin. did you know that having sex with the same person 50 times and having sex with different people 50 times still usually leads to the same likelihood of pregnancy?

 

[Mayor Adam West]

why do you believe it's murder?

Because the fetus is a human being. It is a person. There is different DNA, cellular activity, and it's clearly a human. I might not know for sure if there is any moral worth to the fetus, but I sure as hell know which side is the side that errs on the side of caution. You say that you know for sure that the fetus has no moral value.

Let's imagine I'm wrong about abortion and I get my way on the issue. What have I done? Well, probably killed several thousand women and held society back. Pretty bad but, ya know. I can live with it.

Now let's imagine that you are wrong and you get your way on the issue. What you have done, or rather supported, is the biggest genocide in human history. Iirc the number of abortions worldwide over the past 50 years is 1 or 1.5 billion. That's...utterly horrifying.

I don't know which one of us is right, but I sure as hell know which one of our positions carries the least risks. I can stand before God, as He admonishes me for criminalizing abortion and at least say "I apologize my LORD, but better safe than sorry". All you can say is "whoopsies sowwy "

 

[gang weeder]

Yeah, it was, it was exactly that, then they fought a war, and the north won not because either side was more morally right, but because the north was stronger. That's how nature works, might makes right.

And anyways, cut the Twitter revisionist history shit. The north wasn't "good people" who just wanted to free the blacks based upon their code of ethics, freeing the slaves was an economic, political, and military play by the industrialized north to kneecap the south, which wasn't industrialized and thus relied on slave labor.
The freeing of slaves was tactical, not moral.
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No different than how the reason you actually care about preventing abortion is because you're a waste of air who hates that women can, and do, laugh at you and tell you to screw yourself, but you try to dress your desire to sexually control them up with this ludicrous facade of morality so you don't have to own up to what you really are, flip.

Are you implying that keeping blacks as enslaved cattle is a morally neutral practice?

You did say earlier in the thread that killing babies is based so maybe I shouldn't be so surprised.

Sometimes killing babies is a good choice for all parties involved, this is just shit you realize when you as a male find a female partner IRL

What about the baby being murdered? Is it good for them?

At least you're honest to directly say that you think killing babies is good. Second one to come out and say it now.

 

[Mayor Adam West]

Sometimes killing babies is a good choice for all parties involved, this is just shit you realize when you as a male find a female partner IRL

I wanna second what @gang weeder said. Thank you for being honest.

 

[HeroicIdealism]

1) why isn't it?
2) truly spoken like a permavirgin. did you know that having sex with the same person 50 times and having sex with different people 50 times still usually leads to the same likelihood of pregnancy?

1) I'm not a nihilist and I think human life is valuable. I think women should strive to be mothers and not hedonistic whores who kill their babies out of convenience for having promiscuous sex or furthering their careers.
2) Let's assume you're having sex with the same person and you aren't a whore. You have many options for contraceptives. Why must you resort to an abortion? Furthermore, the male could get a vasectomy or the female could get tubal ligation (which I think is degenerate but whatever, it's better than abortion).

 

[Mayor Adam West]

1) I'm not a nihilist and I think human life is valuable. I think women should strive to be mothers and not hedonistic whores who kill their babies out of convenience for having promiscuous sex or furthering their careers.
2) Let's assume you're having sex with the same person and you aren't a whore. You have many options for contraceptives. Why must you resort to an abortion? Furthermore, the male could get a vasectomy or the female could get tubal ligation (which I think is degenerate but whatever, it's better than abortion).

 

[Ultrapenguin]

Are you implying that keeping blacks as enslaved cattle is a morally neutral practice?

It's morally neutral if I say it is, flip. Learn your place.

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What the hell are you doing? Stop replying to your own sock accounts, you desperate whackjob.

Just because snailslime is a dumb whore doesn't mean she isn't a correct dumb whore.

 

[gang weeder]

It's morally neutral if I say it is, flip. Learn your place.


What the hell are you doing? Stop replying to your own sock accounts, you desperate whackjob.

Just because snailslime is a dumb whore doesn't mean she isn't a correct dumb whore.

So your defense of that silly rant is "ackchyually enslaving black people is based so who cares." The baby killers certainly aren't sending their best today.

 

[Osmosis Jones]

It's not easy to be pro abortion and claim it isn't a slippery slope when the journal of medical ethics posits that killing newborns is medically acceptable and even preferable to any negative outcomes. Netherlands employs this in their medical system. Western doctors think eugenics are cool, so just keep that in mind.

 

[snailslime]

1) I'm not a nihilist and I think human life is valuable. I think women should strive to be mothers and not hedonistic whores who kill their babies out of convenience for having promiscuous sex or furthering their careers.

oh yeah? do you believe men should have to stick around to be fathers and not stick their dicks into every single organism with a pulse?

2) Let's assume you're having sex with the same person and you aren't a whore. You have many options for contraceptives. Why must you resort to an abortion? Furthermore, the male could get a vasectomy or the female could get tubal ligation (which I think is degenerate but whatever, it's better than abortion).

because contraception doesn't always work 100% of the time.

Because the fetus is a human being. It is a person. There is different DNA, cellular activity, and it's clearly a human. I might not know for sure if there is any moral worth to the fetus, but I sure as hell know which side is the side that errs on the side of caution. You say that you know for sure that the fetus has no moral value.

Let's imagine I'm wrong about abortion and I get my way on the issue. What have I done? Well, probably killed several thousand women and held society back. Pretty bad but, ya know. I can live with it.

Now let's imagine that you are wrong and you get your way on the issue. What you have done, or rather supported, is the biggest genocide in human history. Iirc the number of abortions worldwide over the past 50 years is 1 or 1.5 billion. That's...utterly horrifying.

I don't know which one of us is right, but I sure as hell know which one of our positions carries the least risks. I can stand before God, as He admonishes me for criminalizing abortion and at least say "I apologize my LORD, but better safe than sorry". All you can say is "whoopsies sowwy "

is eating vegetables genociding plants? what about meat?

 

[HeroicIdealism]

oh yeah? do you believe men should have to stick around to be fathers and not stick their dicks into every single organism with a pulse?

Yeah.

because contraception doesn't always work 100% of the time.

I really have no sympathy for this excuse. You know the risks of having sex and letting a man ejaculate inside of you. Abortion is a barbaric act of slaughtering a human fetus (and the older this fetus is, the more grotesque the procedure becomes). We shouldn't let it be done out of convenience just because you and other whores suck at using contraception. You have many options to not get pregnant.

is eating vegetables genociding plants? what about meat?

A human fetus is equivalent to a plant now? And yeah I'd actually admit that we genocide cattle in order to eat them. Do you think that we should therefore allow for the genocide of human fetuses?

 

[snailslime]

Yeah.

I really have no sympathy for this excuse. You know the risks of having sex and letting a man ejaculate inside of you. Abortion is a barbaric act of slaughtering a human fetus (and the older this fetus is, the more grotesque the procedure becomes). We shouldn't let it be done out of convenience just because you and other whores suck at using contraception. You have many options to not get pregnant.

1) a human fetus is as alive as a plant, stop moralfagging
2) learn how contraception works, dumbass.

A human fetus is equivalent to a plant now?

yes

And yeah I'd actually admit that we genocide cattle in order to eat them. Do you think that we should therefore allow for the genocide of human fetuses?

i don't support genocide of any kind.

 

[grimacefetishist]

Because the fetus is a human being. It is a person. There is different DNA, cellular activity, and it's clearly a human. I might not know for sure if there is any moral worth to the fetus, but I sure as hell know which side is the side that errs on the side of caution. You say that you know for sure that the fetus has no moral value.

Let's imagine I'm wrong about abortion and I get my way on the issue. What have I done? Well, probably killed several thousand women and held society back. Pretty bad but, ya know. I can live with it.

Now let's imagine that you are wrong and you get your way on the issue. What you have done, or rather supported, is the biggest genocide in human history. Iirc the number of abortions worldwide over the past 50 years is 1 or 1.5 billion. That's...utterly horrifying.

I don't know which one of us is right, but I sure as hell know which one of our positions carries the least risks. I can stand before God, as He admonishes me for criminalizing abortion and at least say "I apologize my LORD, but better safe than sorry". All you can say is "whoopsies sowwy "

I still disagree that it's murder on the basis that there is no guarantee that the embryo is alive.

I also know that I have no soul because I am a ginger so I have a free pass on murder technically #whiteprivilege

On a more serious note, here's a situation that stresses somes beliefs more than other.

There is a set of twins who will both die if they remain conjoined. But surgeons can try to separate them to increase the odds that one will survive, but it will destroy the other twin. When surgeons practice this type of procedure, are they committing murder? Should they be subject to a criminal investigation? When surgeons decline this procedure, are they criminally negligent?

 

[Mayor Adam West]

is eating vegetables genociding plants? what about meat?

Plants and animals are here for us. Humans are superior. Don't give me that vegan crap.

 

[snailslime]

Plants and animals are here for us. Humans are superior. Don't give me that vegan crap.

according to you

 

[gang weeder]

oh yeah? do you believe men should have to stick around to be fathers and not stick their dicks into every single organism with a pulse?

I don't think I've yet seen a pro-lifer who doesn't.

because contraception doesn't always work 100% of the time.

This silly talking point, like "rape rape rape," is a distraction and doesn't change anything. If a fetus is a child, "the contraception didn't work" cannot justify its murder. If a fetus is not a child, then you don't need "the contraception didn't work" as an excuse to justify doing whatever you want to it.

I really have no sympathy for this excuse. You know the risks of having sex and letting a man ejaculate inside of you. Abortion is a barbaric act of slaughtering a human fetus (and the older this fetus is, the more grotesque the procedure becomes). We shouldn't let it be done out of convenience just because you and other whores suck at using contraception. You have many options to not get pregnant.

Don't worry, this one claims to be a Jewish lesbian, and I'm inclined to believe her because I don't know why you'd pretend to be that if you weren't. As much as she loves abortion, she's at no risk of ever committing one herself, thankfully.

I still disagree that it's murder on the basis that there is no guarantee that the embryo is alive.

What guarantee do you have that an infant is "alive" in any way that distinguishes it from an animal like a cat or a dog? Other than its status as an individual of the human species, which an embryo also shares, that is.

There is a set of twins who will both die if they remain conjoined. But surgeons can try to separate them to increase the odds that one will survive, but it will destroy the other twin. When surgeons practice this type of procedure, are they committing murder? Should they be subject to a criminal investigation? When surgeons decline this procedure, are they criminally negligent?

This is analogous to the "what if you have to choose between the mother and the child" what-if that abortionists love to trot out. I've yet to see a single pro-lifer who does not recognize the fundamental difference between something like that and the other 99.99% of abortions (I'm not sure if this type of situation ever actually occurs in reality--certainly I haven't seen or been shown any specific examples of it). An impossible situation in which at least one death is guaranteed obviously does not compare to a completely unnecessary murder of a child.

This is like trying to counter someone saying that infanticide is wrong with "well, what if hypothetically, there were two infants tied to two sets of train tracks in the trolley problem, and you had to pull the lever to decide which one gets run over? Is killing infants still wrong then, hmmmmmm?"

 

[snailslime]

I don't think I've yet seen a pro-lifer who doesn't.



This silly talking point, like "rape rape rape," is a distraction and doesn't change anything. If a fetus is a child, "the contraception didn't work" cannot justify its murder. If a fetus is not a child, then you don't need "the contraception didn't work" as an excuse to justify doing whatever you want to it.



Don't worry, this one claims to be a Jewish lesbian, and I'm inclined to believe her because I don't know why you'd pretend to be that if you weren't. As much as she loves abortion, she's at no risk of ever committing one herself, thankfully.



What guarantee do you have that an infant is "alive" in any way that distinguishes it from an animal like a cat or a dog? Other than its status as an individual of the human species, which an embryo also shares, that is.



This is analogous to the "what if you have to choose between the mother and the child" what-if that abortionists love to trot out. I've yet to see a single pro-lifer who does not recognize the fundamental difference between something like that and the other 99.99% of abortions (I'm not sure if this type of situation ever actually occurs in reality--certainly I haven't seen or been shown any specific examples of it). An impossible situation in which at least one death is guaranteed obviously does not compare to a completely unnecessary murder of a child.

This is like trying to counter someone saying that infanticide is wrong with "well, what if hypothetically, there were two infants tied to two sets of train tracks in the trolley problem, and you had to pull the lever to decide which one gets run over? Is killing infants still wrong then, hmmmmmm?"

read all my other posts in this thread before posting walls of dumb bullshit that i have already addressed.