The Abortion Debate Containment Thread - Put abortion sperging here.

Unable to see anything from anyone else's viewpoint, seeing the entire world in black and white, lack of empathy
Just because I don't see your viewpoint as valid doesn't mean I am incapable of seeing any viewpoint.
Just because I see a literal binary question of fact as black and white doesn't mean I see the entire universe as black and white.
 
Just because I don't see your viewpoint as valid doesn't mean I am incapable of seeing any viewpoint.
You've even admitted you can't. You literally think only your viewpoints are valid. That's a sign of autism.

Just because I see a literal binary question of fact as black and white doesn't mean I see the entire universe as black and white.
You hold everything in black and white, though. This is just another one of the things you do. Also, abortion isn't murder and that's fact

Just admit you have the autism because you're coming off as even more retarded by denying it
 
You've even admitted you can't. You literally think only your viewpoints are valid. That's a sign of autism.
No lol.
You hold everything in black and white, though. This is just another one of the things you do. Also, abortion isn't murder and that's fact
No. You just have a really high view of your intelligence and genuinely can't cope with the fact that someone thinks your viewpoint is retarded, so you go hunting for an explanation that saves your ego.
calm down lol
 
Ya lol.
No. You just have a really high view of your intelligence and genuinely can't cope with the fact that someone thinks your viewpoint is retarded, so you go hunting for an explanation that saves your ego.
calm down lol
Lol calm down, spaz. Like I said, you think only your viewpoints are valid and are 100% fact. When in reality, that isn't the case. Abortion isn't murder, son
 
You have provided nothing that makes this viewpoint seem valid and a lot of things that make it seem even more ridiculous than it seems at face value.
You have provided nothing that makes the opposing viewpoint seem valid.

A fetus isn't a living, breathing human. Also, murder is defined as: the unlawful premeditated killing of one human being by another. See the bolded word? It's legal, therefore it ain't murder
 
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Unable to see anything from anyone else's viewpoint, seeing the entire world in black and white, lack of empathy
What if someone sees the viewpoint and still disagrees with it?

Because otherwise, you're fighting someone else's binary about abortion being murder but denying other person nuance of their view. Isn't it a bit hypocritical?
 
What if someone sees the viewpoint and still disagrees with it?
Then that is fine, but he isn't doing that.

Because otherwise, you're fighting someone else's binary about abortion being murder but denying other person nuance of their view. Isn't it a bit hypocritical?
By legal definition, it's not murder, so his viewpoint is wrong. Murder is defined as an unlawful, premeditated killing. I will admit it would be premeditated, but it's not unlawful since it's legal. Hence it's not murder
 
Then that is fine, but he isn't doing that.
He's arguing his position on abortion, considering it a murder. Resorting to confining the meaning of the word "murder" only as a designator of a criminal act as per relevant legislation and acting like this, somehow, nullifies his point is extremely narrowminded.
 
He's arguing his position on abortion, considering it a murder. Resorting to confining the meaning of the word "murder" only as a designator of a criminal act as per relevant legislation and acting like this, somehow, nullifies his point is extremely narrowminded.
I explained it upthread other reasons why it's not murder. A fetus isn't a living, breathing human being. Hence, it's not murder. He just can't fathom that someone has a viewpoint that isn't his because he legit has really bad autism
 
I explained it upthread other reasons why it's not murder. A fetus isn't a living, breathing human being. Hence, it's not murder. He just can't fathom that someone has a viewpoint that isn't his because he legit has really bad autism
Okay. Define what makes a "human being" then, because last time I checked fetuses have brains, lungs, hearts, the works.

Also, lol at your autism about abortion not being a murder legally. It's still killing. Does it make it somehow easier that you're killing an organism that belongs to Homo Sapiens?
 
Neural tube forms on day 25. Out of it, the nervous system, the brainstem and the brain itself are formed.

Not enough?
Nope, it's not living and breathing on its own. Hence it's not murder in my opinion.

It's even worse because he wants to take away social welfare programs. He doesn't care about the baby, he only cares about punishing women that have sex.
 
Nope, it's not living and breathing on its own. Hence it's not murder in my opinion.

It's even worse because he wants to take away social welfare programs. He doesn't care about the baby, he only cares about punishing women that have sex.
Mate, the baby is on placentary "life support" akin to people on life support, while the majority of organs are formed pretty early in the fetal development. An organism doesn't have to breathe to be alive and feel pain.

So would that mean that you consider people on life support as effectively dead?
 
Mate, the baby is on placentary "life support" akin to people on life support, while the majority of organs are formed pretty early in the fetal development. An organism doesn't have to breathe to be alive and feel pain.
And removing that life support if someone is on life support isn't murder.

I don't have all day to tend to your tardrage, but read up thread if you want my opinions.
So would that mean that you consider people on life support as effectively dead?
Without the life support, yes. Removing that life support isn't murder.

Unless you are also willing to expand welfare programs for poor women that couldn't afford the kid, you aren't pro-life, you're anti-people having sex
 
Unless you are also willing to expand welfare programs for poor women that couldn't afford the kid, you aren't pro-life, you're anti-people having sex
Except I've said repeatedly that I support that and you've continued to ignore me.
And removing that life support if someone is on life support isn't murder.
The fact you want to kill your nan doesn't mean we all want to kill our nans.
 
And removing that life support if someone is on life support isn't murder.
Amazing how you fail to notice the parallels and metaphors. I do get a distinct sense that you're an actual, diagnosed autist and you're using this space to vent.

Removing that life support isn't murder.
Except, in this case, the fetus' life functions are required to be sustained by the host organism to achieve full development. Life support is a metaphor in this case. A fetus is a viable human being, sadly for you.

Also, good to know that you are an utilitarian hiding under the mask of compassion towards women though.
 
Amazing how you fail to notice the parallels and metaphors. I do get a distinct sense that you're an actual, diagnosed autist and you're using this space to vent.
It's ironic how you don't see it. Removing life support, just like removing the fetus from the woman, is not murder.

Except, in this case, the fetus' life functions are required to be sustained by the host organism to achieve full development. Life support is a metaphor in this case. A fetus is a viable human being, sadly for you.

Also, good to know that you are utilitarian hiding under the mask of compassion towards women though.
There's really no difference. Without the host organism, the fetus dies, just like the person on life support without the machines.

I am all for a woman being able to choose to terminate a pregnancy. She has to carry and care for the baby. I do not. You do not.

Are you also for expanding welfare programs for poor women who would be forced to have the baby if you pro-lifers got your way?
 
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