The Alien TV show will be about classicism - We Wuz Xenomorphs

The-Mad-Asshatter said:
Prometheus should have been a whole new universe unconnected to Alien(s) and Covenant should never have existed.

Ridley Scott fired the final bullet into this franchise when he used the Alien universe to artificially boost his personal art wank projects.
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I tried really hard to like Prometheus and I loved the idea of a sidebar series that wasn't even directly involving Xenomorphs, but of course the hacks have to immediately inject them into it with Covenant since the first one bombed... and that bombed harder.
 
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Wesker said:
I tried really hard to like Prometheus and I loved the idea of a sidebar series that wasn't even directly involving Xenomorphs, but of course the hacks have to immediately inject them into it with Covenant since the first one bombed... and that bombed harder.
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They bombed so hard that he didn't end up making the third movie that he wanted.

That movie would have 'connected' these prequels to the first Alien movie, possibly destroying even more of the franchise' mystery.
 
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The-Mad-Asshatter said:
They bombed so hard that he didn't end up making the third movie that he wanted.

That movie would have 'connected' these prequels to the first Alien movie, possibly destroying even more of the franchise' mystery.
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In hindsight they should've stuck with the original script from Prometheus. From what I recall, it was a straight forward one and done prequel that linked up with Alien.
 
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Wesker said:
Just keep this in mind. This franchise has hit a creative dead end like Terminator and Predator for 30 years now, and it's not getting better.
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Honestly, of the three I think Predator has the most potential legs- whatever the quality of Prey, I think it laid out a good template for the Predator as an anthology series as opposed to some MCU-style mytharc. You can go all over the place with this: Predator vs. Samurai. Predator v. Gladiators. You've got this whole swath of historical badasses you can use to create interesting one-offs.
 
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The Cunting Death said:
At least we can all agree Resurrection is dogshit right?
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Absolutely. The fact Weyland Yutani gets bought out by Walmart is such a 90s thing.
The-Mad-Asshatter said:
It could have been worse, the French director gave the Newborn hermaphroditic genitals with a giant clenis that could become erect, which had to be edited out after he decided, 'Even that is too much, for a Frenchman.'
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I did not know this, and I hate that I do now. Just when I thought it wasn't a large enough dumpster fire as it is.
 
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Wesker said:
Absolutely. The fact Weyland Yutani gets bought out by Walmart is such a 90s thing.
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Now they are literally bought out by Disney.

Wesker said:
I did not know this, and I hate that I do now. Just when I thought it wasn't a large enough dumpster fire as it is.
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You can find photos of the Newborn online with it's giant genitals in full view covering most of it's stomach. It honestly made me think of MewTwo with the body shape they gave it, the thin legs and wide belly to fit the genitals. The clenis was supposed to become erect after Ripley8 kissed it or it somehow got turned on by her.

Like I said, it could have been much, much worse.
 
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The-Mad-Asshatter said:
Now they are literally bought out by Disney.


You can find photos of the Newborn online with it's giant genitals in full view covering most of it's stomach. It honestly made me think of MewTwo with the body shape they gave it, the thin legs and wide belly to fit the genitals. The clenis was supposed to become erect after Ripley8 kissed it or it somehow got turned on by her.

Like I said, it could have been much, much worse.
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I just checked. It's so horrific it's funny.

The idea of a Xeno/Human hybrid would have been great. But they handled it the absolute worst way possible. They don't even show it doing much besides ripping the Queen's face off. Like you're just supposed to accept it's tougher than the rest of them when it looks like a much fatter version of those Men in Black smoking bugs.
 
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Wesker said:
I just checked. It's so horrific it's funny.

The idea of a Xeno/Human hybrid would have been great. But they handled it the absolute worst way possible. They don't even show it doing much besides ripping the Queen's face off. Like you're just supposed to accept it's tougher than the rest of them when it looks like a much fatter version of those Men in Black smoking bugs.
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Agreed. Plus I think the Newborn would have worked better as some kind of prototype genetically engineered Human-Alien hybrid organism cooked up Weyland-Yutani, not an accident. It's a natural progression of their motive, we hear a lot about them wanting to acquire a pure strain specimen for nefarious reasons, now we get to see what they would do if they acquired one.
 
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The-Mad-Asshatter said:
Agreed. Plus I think the Newborn would have worked better as some kind of prototype genetically engineered Human-Alien hybrid organism cooked up Weyland-Yutani, not an accident. It's a natural progression of their motive, we hear a lot about them wanting to acquire a pure strain specimen for nefarious reasons, now we get to see what they would do if they acquired one.
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You know, that's an excellent point. It's been four films by that point and not once has Weyland actually ever did anything genetically with them. Sure they never actually acquired them until AR, but even then... they just bred them... and watched them behind plexiglass? They got the queen out of the clone... but that's all they really did.

They wanted it for the weapons division, but seemed like they never tried to do anything in that regard. Just keep them in a room and blast them with liquid nitrogen.
 
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Wesker said:
You know, that's an excellent point. It's been four films by that point and not once has Weyland actually ever did anything genetically with them. Sure they never actually acquired them until AR, but even then... they just bred them... and watched them behind plexiglass? They got the queen out of the clone... but that's all they really did.
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This movie also seemed to 'forget' to take into account that there would still probably be old egg cases and discarded facehuggers leftover on her ship and somewhere in the prison complex from Aliens 3. They would have searched her ship, scoured the complex, and found the dead dog\ox\whatever and had a possible wealth of genetic material to sequence and clone and a dead animal host to necropsy to see what happened during impregnation and gestation.



Wesker said:
They wanted it for the weapons division, but seemed like they never tried to do anything in that regard. Just keep them in a room and blast them with liquid nitrogen.
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A dangerous creature, yet they do the sci-fi equivalent of a kid poking an animal in a cage with a stick to see if it will react.

Of all the things one does with such an important organism that is a huge asset to science and xenobiology, that is the best Weyland-Yutani can come up with? That is a pathetic letdown.
 
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The series will follow the story of Wendy, a hybrid human and essentially perfect being who has the mind of the 10-year-old Marcy who gave her consciousness to a brand-new body. She learns to wield her new body under Kirsh and human scientist dame Sylvia. She becomes a determined leader to other hybrids and forges the path of possibility tor a new era of elevated beings.
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Tor Lugosi said:
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Why make a non-Alien story in the Alien universe? Same reason we have a non-Tolkien story in a LOTR show. Or a Dune adaptation that is generic sci-fi. Or Alien Prometheus which was literally a Ridley Scott ancient aliens story with HR Giger monsters for marketing purposes. Or Nosferatu instead of Dracula. If the story is horrible just use a popular franchise to sell it using familiar characters.

Here is a popular (((hollywood))) formula. Take a dogshit story. Put it in a popular universe like X-Men, Alien, Harry Potter. And then mass market it. Or you take a popular story and put it into a dogshit universe. Like Dances with Wolves into Avatar. Or 28 Weeks Later into Last of Us. And mass market it to the point where it either succeeds or sets bombing records.

So we have someone's no talent failure of story material being rejected everywhere. But then they still have those connections to get their dogshit idea attached to the Alien franchise. And now we get Alien: Wendy written and produced mostly by nobodies but given access to a franchise that was probably created a decade or more before they were even born.
 
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Because Alien isn't really a concept you could make a TV show out of. It's a penis monster killing people, that works well for a horror movie but a 10 episode TV show? Nah, it just doesn't work, that's why they need to add all this complicated bullshit. That and modern writers are seemingly incapable of creating anything that doesn't have a Mary Sue main character. Expect to see this Wendy doing sick back flips, taking out dozens of Weyland-Yutani guards as she fight her way to the all white male board of directors who are our villains, not the 8ft tall sadomasochistic rape monster.

It'll get a guaranteed two seasons (the 2nd or 3rd one will be announced before the 1st is over) with the first episode being hailed as the next coming of Christ and headlines like "Alien TV show the most watched thing on X streaming service" and the studio bragging about how much money they spent. There might be a 3rd season but it'll end there with abysmal viewer numbers.

It just keeps happening, these companies want to scrape the bottom of the barrel for nostalgia bait to sell to a new audience that's too young to remember even the second film. Millennials love their "geek" culture with every 30 something being BIG horror and popular culture fan, but you're not a mega fan of something if you can't signal to others that you're a fan. So everyone has to watch the latest liquid shit forced out by these retarded studios and spend their money on the latest plastic shit. They sucker dipshits into watching these shows by taking advantage of the "fear of missing out" phenomenon with every headline being designed feed into it. Expect to see your favorite e-celeb talking about it for all of one week before it gets forgotten about because it's apparent popularity is manufactured as fuck.

All this wouldn't be a problem if these shows where any good but they're not. Modern writers are driven by nepotism and quotas, who have to link everything to "current day issues" because they can't write for shit. Streaming services are getting desperate, turns out their business model was flawed for the beginning but investors have sunk too much money into them to just pull the plug now. So everyone is desperately in need of a new hit. something that can not just earn money but cover for the other failures and what better way than to take advantage of a already beloved IP?

But there is one wild card, sometimes the writers shit the bed hard, harder than even the most cynical can imagine. When that happens the media will turn on them hard as the outrage/schadenfreude is too much to miss out on. That's what happened to the Resident Evil TV show.
 
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Fools Idol said:
Because Alien isn't really a concept you could make a TV show out of. It's a penis monster killing people, that works well for a horror movie but a 10 episode TV show? Nah, it just doesn't work, that's why they need to add all this complicated bullshit. That and modern writers are seemingly incapable of creating anything that doesn't have a Mary Sue main character. Expect to see this Wendy doing sick back flips, taking out dozens of Weyland-Yutani guards as she fight her way to the all white male board of directors who are our villains, not the 8ft tall sadomasochistic rape monster.

It'll get a guaranteed two seasons (the 2nd or 3rd one will be announced before the 1st is over) with the first episode being hailed as the next coming of Christ and headlines like "Alien TV show the most watched thing on X streaming service" and the studio bragging about how much money they spent. There might be a 3rd season but it'll end there with abysmal viewer numbers.

It just keeps happening, these companies want to scrape the bottom of the barrel for nostalgia bait to sell to a new audience that's too young to remember even the second film. Millennials love their "geek" culture with every 30 something being BIG horror and popular culture fan, but you're not a mega fan of something if you can't signal to others that you're a fan. So everyone has to watch the latest liquid shit forced out by these retarded studios and spend their money on the latest plastic shit. They sucker dipshits into watching these shows by taking advantage of the "fear of missing out" phenomenon with every headline being designed feed into it. Expect to see your favorite e-celeb talking about it for all of one week before it gets forgotten about because it's apparent popularity is manufactured as fuck.

All this wouldn't be a problem if these shows where any good but they're not. Modern writers are driven by nepotism and quotas, who have to link everything to "current day issues" because they can't write for shit. Streaming services are getting desperate, turns out their business model was flawed for the beginning but investors have sunk too much money into them to just pull the plug now. So everyone is desperately in need of a new hit. something that can not just earn money but cover for the other failures and what better way than to take advantage of a already beloved IP?

But there is one wild card, sometimes the writers shit the bed hard, harder than even the most cynical can imagine. When that happens the media will turn on them hard as the outrage/schadenfreude is too much to miss out on. That's what happened to the Resident Evil TV show.
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Alien has always had corporations bad, so I'm not surprised.
I mean, Weyland Yutani is literally so huge that you can say "I work for the company" and people jump right to Wey-Yu.
I'm kinda here for it?
As for the alien being a concept, I'd say you could make a badass show where the alien is an overarcing threat to a colony and WeyYu engages in "Corporate Lockdown."
If we could get a prequel to isolation about Sevastopol falling and the survivors just trying to do that, where at any moment, a xeno could attack, I think there's a good chance to make a good show.
 
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