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[Pope Negro Joe the XIIIth]

Reviving the thread I gues...

I recently started to get YouTube adds for betterhelp, centered around harassment support(?). I thought the app was essentially dead and done ever since all the drama.

Well, here's the screenshot for proof.View attachment 1747258

Yeah, my gf was listening to some YouTube video the other night in bed and the dude had an in-video ad for them and I thought the same thing, like what the fuck lol.

 

[Shaka Brah]

Reviving the thread I gues...

I recently started to get YouTube adds for betterhelp, centered around harassment support(?). I thought the app was essentially dead and done ever since all the drama.

Well, here's the screenshot for proof.View attachment 1747258

A few podcasts I listen to have been shilling them. They might have gone dark on youtube but they were buying ad reads on podcasts the whole time.

 

[Kiislova]

A few podcasts I listen to have been shilling them. They might have gone dark on youtube but they were buying ad reads on podcasts the whole time.

Sauce?
I want a trash fire revival.

 

[Shaka Brah]

Sauce?
I want a trash fire revival.

Off the top of my head, I think Astonishing Legends (a bugmanny paranormal podcast) has been doing ad reads for them. I recall hearing it another place but can't remember which. I think another paranormal cast, Mysterious Universe, was doing them but I'd have to check again to be sure.

 

[Bernd Liefert]

Now that the thread is necroed, I can ask. Has DeFranco ever done the indepth video he promised?

 

[Baklava]

Now that the thread is necroed, I can ask. Has DeFranco ever done the indepth video he promised?

After a cursory search, I don't think he has aside from this one. Don't think he ever made that independent news network he promised either, which is instead just a Patreon that promises early access to videos and Discord access.

 

[Bernd Liefert]

After a cursory search, I don't think he has aside from this one. Don't think he ever made that independent news network he promised either, which is instead just a Patreon that promises early access to videos and Discord access.

Ah yeah, that's the video were he promissed to do it.

 

[AltisticRight]

While not too recent, 3 weeks ago is rather closer to now than the last year's post. Somehow this service grifted its way into my normie routines.

https://youtu.be/MDzhIZafL4I

This is from one of those horror/disaster channels. Apparently, they took a sponsorship from Betterhelp, and later backed off due to feedback. Should have done their due diligence and a tiny bit of research, but noble nonetheless.

Guy might be gagged now, wonder what their contract looks like. Betterhelp, you listening? Wanna sponsor an autistic tranny janny? I suffer from autism and ADHD. I won't share the contract, you can DM me.

Optically fine move there. People were pretty happy.

 

[Pope Negro Joe the XIIIth]

While not too recent, 3 weeks ago is rather closer to now than the last year's post. Somehow this service grifted its way into my normie routines.

https://youtu.be/MDzhIZafL4I

This is from one of those horror/disaster channels. Apparently, they took a sponsorship from Betterhelp, and later backed off due to feedback. Should have done their due diligence and a tiny bit of research, but noble nonetheless.

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Guy might be gagged now, wonder what their contract looks like. Betterhelp, you listening? Wanna sponsor an autistic tranny janny? I suffer from autism and ADHD. I won't share the contract, you can DM me.

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Optically fine move there. People were pretty happy.

The guy behind that channel is pretty cool from what I can tell, I'm not surprised he'd yeet a sponsor the viewers didn't like.

 

[Krystal]

Apologies for the necro-ing the thread. But Anthony Padilla actually took a sponsor from betterhelp on his "day with corpse husband" video a few weeks ago and no one seems to take note of it.

 

[Lysenko]

Apologies for the necro-ing the thread. But Anthony Padilla actually took a sponsor from betterhelp on his "day with corpse husband" video a few weeks ago and no one seems to take note of it.

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They're still at it. Betterhelp inc is making these highly produced videos on shit like "Symptoms of ADHD and you" for 14 year old girls to diagnose themselves with on their youtube channel that are somehow pulling in a good amount of views. Now that I think about it, Betterhelp in smart to cash in on making everyone think they have ODD/ADHD/ADD/Anxiety whatever and directing the poor saps to their scam instead of a real therapist.

 

[AnniePosition]

Tigerbelly and Bad Friends still use them as Sponsors for their podcast

 

[Burning Fanatic]

Apologies for the necro-ing the thread. But Anthony Padilla actually took a sponsor from betterhelp on his "day with corpse husband" video a few weeks ago and no one seems to take note of it.

View attachment 2049553

They're still at it. Betterhelp inc is making these highly produced videos on shit like "Symptoms of ADHD and you" for 14 year old girls to diagnose themselves with on their youtube channel that are somehow pulling in a good amount of views. Now that I think about it, Betterhelp in smart to cash in on making everyone think they have ODD/ADHD/ADD/Anxiety whatever and directing the poor saps to their scam instead of a real therapist.

Tigerbelly and Bad Friends still use them as Sponsors for their podcast

I happened to stumble across this video from Philip Defranco of all people:

TL;DW:

• BetterHelp has made a pretty significant comeback after the initial scandal and has been working with a ton of popular influencers to promote their service, including the ones previously mentioned.
  • Their largest promotion involves Arianna Grande promoting a giveaway worth $2 million of free therapy.
• Phil’s fans are hearing about the comeback, they begin asking him to cover the story, worried that these influencers are helping to promote a scam.
• Phil finally clarifies that the only reason his channel dropped the sponsorship was due to the mounting pressure at the time, not because they found it be a scam. Just a service with terrible ToS.
• He also mentions how the online mob giving him a lot of shit for promoting BH as a scam was quite literally “the darkest point in his life.”

I doubt there will be any further updates regarding Defranco and his past involvement, though BetterHelp may have some new developments pop up in the future. We’ll have to wait and see.

 

[Hecate]

I happened to stumble across this video from Philip Defranco of all people:

TL;DW:

• BetterHelp has made a pretty significant comeback after the initial scandal and has been working with a ton of popular influencers to promote their service, including the ones previously mentioned.
  • Their largest promotion involves Arianna Grande promoting a giveaway worth $2 million of free therapy.
• Phil’s fans are hearing about the comeback, they begin asking him to cover the story, worried that these influencers are helping to promote a scam.
• Phil finally clarifies that the only reason his channel dropped the sponsorship was due to the mounting pressure at the time, not because they found it be a scam. Just a service with terrible ToS.
• He also mentions how the online mob giving him a lot of shit for promoting BH as a scam was quite literally “the darkest point in his life.”

I doubt there will be any further updates regarding Defranco and his past involvement, though BetterHelp may have some new developments pop up in the future. We’ll have to wait and see.

isn't this like the third time defranco has called something the "darkest point in his life"?

 

[BrunoMattei]

isn't this like the third time defranco has called something the "darkest point in his life"?

I'm sure he was crying his eyes out over it.

 

[Toolbox]

I happened to stumble across this video from Philip Defranco of all people:

TL;DW:

• BetterHelp has made a pretty significant comeback after the initial scandal and has been working with a ton of popular influencers to promote their service, including the ones previously mentioned.
  • Their largest promotion involves Arianna Grande promoting a giveaway worth $2 million of free therapy.
• Phil’s fans are hearing about the comeback, they begin asking him to cover the story, worried that these influencers are helping to promote a scam.
• Phil finally clarifies that the only reason his channel dropped the sponsorship was due to the mounting pressure at the time, not because they found it be a scam. Just a service with terrible ToS.
• He also mentions how the online mob giving him a lot of shit for promoting BH as a scam was quite literally “the darkest point in his life.”

I doubt there will be any further updates regarding Defranco and his past involvement, though BetterHelp may have some new developments pop up in the future. We’ll have to wait and see.

Phillip is at least probably in the decline as far as viewership goes. 6.3 million subs but barely gets close to a mil each upload. His peak was seemingly 4 years ago judging by his most viewed. Not quite 'hurting' yet, but his schtick is getting old with the general Youtube audience. I mean, he hasn't even really changed his thumbnails or his general video style in probably a decade now. His level of ego refuses to let him change. At least there's some silver lining. The betterhelp scam continuing to persist and grow along with other services cloning their methodology (saw some TV ads promoting a very similarly structured website) is pretty sad though and just shows the state of people and their trust in the internet at large. I can only see it getting worse with the continual push for digital lifestyles.

 

[Product Placement]

kinda of funny games shilling it while having the head of xbox on

You shouldn't market something that targets vulnerable people, for one they need real help, secondly, it is very easy to get those who have a mental illness to buy your product because they are desperate and are not thinking clearly, and this likely will lead to more harm in those cases.

While American doesn't have laws as far I can see about this type of marketing, other counties sure as hell does. But the end of the day just shows you how much youtuber really care about the people who view their videos which is very funny when they go after companies that do loot boxes.

 

[Tanner Glass]

Now that the thread is necroed, I can ask. Has DeFranco ever done the indepth video he promised?

Why would he? He made a huge pile of money on running what is essentially a scam - why would he make a video admitting it? He got away with it.

 

[Burning Fanatic]

Why would he? He made a huge pile of money on running what is essentially a scam - why would he make a video admitting it? He got away with it.

Except he did address the scandal years later. I posted the video a few weeks back. Obviously he’s not admitting that he intentionally scammed people, but you can’t pretend like he’s never going to address it when he did exactly that.

 

[Tanner Glass]

Except he did address the scandal years later. I posted the video a few weeks back. Obviously he’s not admitting that he intentionally scammed people, but you can’t pretend like he’s never going to address it when he did exactly that.

"Years later" he did a fluff video saying "Betterhelp wasn't actually bad, they just had a bad TOS".

There's no explanation as to why it took literal years and no actual admission of Betterhelp being a scam. He actually refers to to the idea that the BH councilors are not properly trained as an "allegation" and treats them as baseless, even though there's info about that in this very thread. He literally goes on to say that people that had a bad experience with BetterHelp were, and I'm quoting, "an extreme minority". He claims to have went to the office and interviewed people and then goes down with a gigantic "pity me, I'm sad too" tirade about how terrible it was and claims that he still uses BetterHelp.

I'm not trying to be insulting - but this is very clearly a fluff piece disguised as an apology. There is nothing in depth about this video and the majority of the video is spent talking up BetterHelp as a service and downplaying actual credible allegations that it was and is a scam. This is such a good video I would not be surprised if he got paid for it by Betterhelp. The video took "years" to come out because he was waiting for the heat to die down and the BH relaunch.